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High School Musical Part 1

IN THE ROOM

RyanCurtisDani

Guest appearance: Dani

By way of introduction.

Ryan

Hello and welcome to a special edition of Reverse Psychology. Tonight, we continue the Summer Movie Marathon. If you were hoping for some sweet Psychobabble-Fraser talk, you were out of luck. But not to fear, we will still be asking some incredibly personal and deep-probing questions. Like, what would happen if a hoops dude showed mild interest in singing? And what does it look like when the whole school has a totally normal identity crisis? The answer to these questions and more as we dive into the first half of the first movie of an iconic Disney trilogy. This is Reverse Psychology Presents, Pike School Musical! I am Ryan and I'm your average basketball-loving, music-fearing dad. And I will be your guide to the terrifying and mystifying world of musical tryouts.

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  • Hello and welcome to a special edition of Reverse Psychology. Tonight, we continue the Summer Movie Marathon. If you were hoping for some sweet Psychobabble-Fraser talk, you were out of luck. But not to fear, we will still be asking some incredibly personal and deep-probing questions. Like, what would happen if a hoops dude showed mild interest in singing? And what does it look like when the whole school has a totally normal identity crisis? The answer to these questions and more as we dive into the first half of the first movie of an iconic Disney trilogy. This is Reverse Psychology Presents, Pike School Musical! I am Ryan Sansone and I'm your average basketball-loving, music-fearing dad. And I will be your guide to the terrifying and mystifying world of musical tryouts.
Curtis

Joining me, as always, from the Upside Down is a man who hates basketball and musicals, but still chose this trilogy. It's Curtis! You know what I also hate? Is that you just referred to yourself as our dad.

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  • Joining me, as always, from the Upside Down is a man who hates basketball and musicals, but still chose this trilogy. It's Curtis Sheck! You know what I also hate? Is that you just referred to yourself as our dad.
Danielle

And showing Curtis the broad way is my co-host, a woman who does not care about basketball, but give her a choreographed dance and she will be ready to ball out. It's Dani. Oh, you know I love a good choreographed dance.

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  • And showing Curt the broad way is my co-host, a woman who does not care about basketball, but give her a choreographed dance and she will be ready to ball out. It's Danielle Stevens. Oh, you know I love a good choreographed dance.
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Hello and welcome to a special edition of Reverse Psychology. Tonight, we continue the Summer Movie Marathon. If you were hoping for some sweet Psychobabble-Fraser talk, you were out of luck. But not to fear, we will still be asking some incredibly personal and deep-probing questions. Like, what would happen if a hoops dude showed mild interest in singing? And what does it look like when the whole school has a totally normal identity crisis? The answer to these questions and more as we dive into the first half of the first movie of an iconic Disney trilogy. This is Reverse Psychology Presents, Pike School Musical! I am Ryan Sansone and I'm your average basketball-loving, music-fearing dad. And I will be your guide to the terrifying and mystifying world of musical tryouts. Joining me, as always, from the Upside Down is a man who hates basketball and musicals, but still chose this trilogy. It's Curtis Sheck! You know what I also hate? Is that you just referred to yourself as our dad. No, no, I'm your, I'm like the royal you's average dad. Not better. Okay. We'll go with that, Ryan. Because I'm pretending you're a royalty fair. Ah. And showing Curtis the broad way is my co-host, a woman who does not care about basketball, but give her a choreographed dance and she will be ready to ball out. It's Danielle Stevens. Oh, you know I love a good choreographed dance.

ONE SCENE AT A TIME

Scene & activity judgments.

These judgments concern the named scene or activity.

Conversation excerpt

Scene rating

Source excerpt ↗ 1:21:06

8.7/10

Source details
  • Answer qualification: Best in franchise claimed: True; Nostalgia acknowledged: True; Not perfect: True; Positive features: structure chaos; Remembered years later: True

Someone brought rules.

The games, the premises, and what everyone brought to the table.

How this one works

Prompt
  1. And either of you guessed who he had a crush on.

RESULT STATUS

The recorded result is unresolved.

Follow the round structure (1)

Character: Ryan; Requested fact: who he had a crush on

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 34:48

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Prompt
Question / challenge

And either of you guessed who he had a crush on.

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  • Answer qualification: Just none of the context.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Zeke

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  • Answer qualification: Reason: Sharpay is being crushed on by Zeke; Reciprocal crush would be funny: True; Moments imply it claimed: True
  • Correct: True

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: RyanSource excerpt ↗ 35:17

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Prompt
Question / challenge

Ryan, do you have a guess?

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Chad

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  • Correct: False
  • Answer qualification: Evidence reservation: There's really no evidence, especially this one.; Reason: I'm going to go with Chad just because that's what we've seen it play out.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 35:29

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  • Correct answer: Zeke
  • Adjudication: Well, I can tell you one of you absolutely guessed the correct answer.
View source wording — how it was explained on the show
  • Correct answer: Zeke
  • Dani asks Curtis and Ryan to guess. Zeke is the revealed answer, not a podcast winner.

How this one works

How it works
  1. Replacement role count: 6; Period: 2006; Age constraint: roughly the same age; Reboot: False
  2. Nomination: once we've all said; Selection basis: them fight to the death,; Fight is hypothetical: True; Exact age not universal: True
  3. discussion and selection of a hypothetical fight winner for each role

RESULT STATUS

This one was not a competition.

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RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:39:45

Recorded conversation

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  • Final state summary: Taylor: Cynthia Erivo; Ryan: Jonathan Groff; Gab: Stephanie Beatriz; Chad: Michael B. Jordan; Char: Kelly Cuoco; Troy bolden: Rihanna

Follow the round structure (6)

Taylor

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:23:25

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Prompt
Question / challenge

Task: nominate replacement; Role: Taylor

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  • Prompt item: Taylor

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Recorded conversation

Rihanna

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  • Answer qualification: Musicality claimed: True; Age fit claimed: True; Acting reference: Battleship; Toughness considered: True

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Recorded conversation

Reese Witherspoon

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  • Answer qualification: Source claimed current age: 44; Fit: got the admin bit.; Singing not needed claimed: True

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Recorded conversation

Cynthia Erivo

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  • Answer qualification: Not exactly 44 acknowledged: True; Prior unsubmitted choice: Reese Witherspoon; Prior choice changed before hearing duplicate: True

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:26:59

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Cynthia Erivo

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  • Adjudication method: It's two against one,

Ryan

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Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:27:15

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Prompt
Question / challenge

Task: nominate replacement; Role: Ryan

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  • Prompt item: Ryan

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Recorded conversation

Jonathan Groff

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  • Answer qualification: Source claimed current age: 40; Exact age match claimed: True

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Recorded conversation

Cole Scola

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  • Answer qualification: I mean, obviously he's not going to win in a fight.

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Recorded conversation

Daniel Radcliffe

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  • Answer qualification: Age initially questioned: True; Role remains: Ryan; Age discussion: He's not quite 40, He was 36.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:28:39

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Jonathan Groff

Round context
  • Rules: Proposed order: snake; Danny deferred to last: True

Gab

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:28:51

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Prompt
Question / challenge

Task: nominate replacement; Role: Gab

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  • Prompt item: Gab

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Recorded conversation

Stephanie Beatrice

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  • Answer qualification: Older than target acknowledged: True; Age ballpark claimed: True; Screen persona reference: Brooklyn Nine-Nine; Real voice fit: she is perfect for like a high school girl.

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Recorded conversation

Emma Stone

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  • Answer qualification: Source claimed current age: 36; Self imposed exact age: True; Alternatives considered slim: True; Defense: Well, I just stick to the spirit of the game.

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Recorded conversation

Naya Rivera

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  • Answer qualification: Prior audition claimed: Gabriela Montez; Reference: Glee

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Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:31:16

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Stephanie Beatrice

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  • Result qualification: Later confirmation: Stephanie Beatriz.; Earlier nomination spelling: Stephanie Beatrice.

Chad

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:31:45

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Prompt
Question / challenge

Task: nominate replacement; Role: Chad

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  • Prompt item: Chad

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Recorded conversation

Rupert Grint

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  • Answer qualification: Source claimed current age: 36; Unsubmitted backup: Kevin Durant; Backup described as: basketball player

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Recorded conversation

Michael B. Jordan

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  • Answer qualification: Singing and dancing ability claimed: unknown; Acting assessment: great actor.; Earlier fame of own troy pick claimed: True; Possibly overpowered for role: True; Confident against other candidates in fight: True

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Recorded conversation

Joe Keery

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  • Answer qualification: Singing claimed: True; Fight reservation reference: Stranger Things

RECORDED EXCHANGE

“Participant cited” identifies a contributor, not the speaker of every word in this excerpt. It may include other participants’ replies or reactions.

Prompt
Question / challenge

Request: to make the call then; Remaining candidates: Michael B. Jordan Joe Keery

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:34:30

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Michael B. Jordan

Sharpay

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:34:46

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Prompt
Question / challenge

Task: nominate replacement; Role: Sharpay

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  • Prompt item: Sharpay

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Recorded conversation

Rachel McAdams

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  • Answer qualification: but I think she's too old.

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Recorded conversation

Bryce Dallas Howard

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  • Answer qualification: I looked it up. She's in the right ballpark.

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Recorded conversation

Kaylee Cuoco

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  • Answer qualification: Source claimed current age: 40; Star power claimed: True; Scrappy claimed: True; Unsubmitted fight alternative: Gal Gadot

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:36:09

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Kaylee Cuoco

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  • Adjudication method: Overall source framing: After death matches,; Local selection rationale: attitude fitting a Sharpay type; Earlier fight uncertainty expressed: True
  • Result qualification: Recap spelling: Kelly Cuoco.; Nomination spelling: Kaylee Cuoco.

Troy

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:36:21

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Prompt
Question / challenge

Task: nominate replacement; Role: Troy

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  • Prompt item: Troy

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Recorded conversation

Rihanna

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  • Answer qualification: Source claimed current age: 37; Gender bending acknowledged: True; Merits claimed: tough flexible ability to adapt; Limited exact age choices claimed: True; Unsubmitted backups: Tim Tebow Tom Felden Michael Cera

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Recorded conversation

Aaron Tveit

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  • Answer qualification: I answered it on this podcast.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:39:31

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Rihanna

View source wording — how it was explained on the show
  • Adjudication method: discussion and selection of a hypothetical fight winner for each role
  • The celebrity selected for a role is a fictional casting outcome, not a podcaster’s competitive win.

Comic bits and episode moments.

What is a movie franchise that would be better if people were singing?

See how they answered

What everyone brought to the table · 6 recorded exchanges

3 attributed voices

RECORDED EXCHANGE

“Participant cited” identifies a contributor, not the speaker of every word in this excerpt. It may include other participants’ replies or reactions.

Prompt

Question / challenge

What is a movie franchise that would be better if people were singing?

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Recorded conversation

Batman and Robin

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  • Answer qualification: Initial scope: specific movie; Expanded scope: all of them; Included example: the Dark Knight trilogy
  • Response: This movie is so campy, so over the top goofy that I think it will lend itself very well to the musical format.
  • Ending or payoff: Do a musical, you coward.

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Recorded conversation

DCEU

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  • Answer qualification: It was like, we can't ruin Dark Knight.
  • Response: So we can just music-ify all of them and they probably would actually improve them.
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RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: DaniSource excerpt ↗ 06:01

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Prompt

Question / challenge

Danny, what do you think?

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Recorded conversation

Scream

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  • Central premise: Could you imagine Ghostface having his own musical number?
  • Important beats: Analogy: Heathers; Reported adaptation: Originally it was a movie and then they made it into a musical and it was very popular.; Staging: They do some really cool things on Broadway these days with projections and screens and stuff.; Ghostface: I envision him singing behind, or she, behind the Ghostface mask.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 06:57

Collaborative Scream musical discussion

Discourserole: collaborative hypothetical design; Clauses: Mask tease: They'll take off the mask when they turn around and stuff.; Voice: It'll be like the voice, like Scream voice through the recorder.; Alternatives: multiple people sing as Ghostface mask the voice in some way; Ghostface singer: who is being suspected; Changes during show: True; Additional pitch: Dance deaths.

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  • Adjudication: Discourserole: informal reactions; Positive: Okay, I kind of like that idea, too. I can see it's the next big show.; Negative: When you first said the idea, I was like, yes, this is a great idea. The more we've talked about it, the more I'm sure it's not.; Production banter: All right, well, we will be producing that.
  • Curtis: “I like that you remember the second movie and were like, it's gender neutral.”
  • Dani: “I feel like there could be some great opportunities to tease the audience on who the killer is during a dance number. What do you mean?”
  • Dani: “It'll be like the voice, like Scream voice through the recorder.”
  • Curtis: “What if you had a lot of, like, suspicion? So, like, throughout the musical, we keep, like, throwing the suspicion on a specific character,”
  • Curtis: “Ryan, let me see if I can reignite that passion in you. Dance deaths.”
Source details
  • Ryan: “So Curtis, since you are newly indoctrinated into this noteworthy genre, why don't we start with you? What is a movie franchise that would be better if people were singing?”
  • Curtis: “Danny, what do you think?”

Stick to the status quo

What was recorded

What everyone brought to the table · 7 recorded exchanges

RECORDED EXCHANGE

“Participant cited” identifies a contributor, not the speaker of every word in this excerpt. It may include other participants’ replies or reactions.

Prompt

Question / challenge

what scene did you choose?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

“Participant cited” identifies a contributor, not the speaker of every word in this excerpt. It may include other participants’ replies or reactions.

Stick to the status quo

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  • Answer qualification: Preference: because I love the big numbers.; Reason: how it breaks the school.

CLAIM & ADJUDICATION

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:20:31

Remark

Discourserole: scene assessment; Clauses: Possible best so far: True; Plot function: introduces chaos at the school rather than only repeating Troy's conflict

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  • Curtis: “That song is, honestly, it might be the best one we've heard up to this point in the movie.”
  • Ryan: “Because you really, you've not been aware of that up till this point,”
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RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:19:53

“Participant cited” identifies a contributor, not the speaker of every word in this excerpt. It may include other participants’ replies or reactions.

Prompt

Question / challenge

How do you rate it?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

“Participant cited” identifies a contributor, not the speaker of every word in this excerpt. It may include other participants’ replies or reactions.

Prompt

Question / challenge

Request: but tell us why you selected this scene in particular.; Rating exempt: True

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Franchise function: this song is the catalyst of all things,; Personal relevance: so watching it in high school, it really did hit.

CLAIM & ADJUDICATION

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:21:56

Remark

Discourserole: interpretive agreement; Clauses: Theme: people contain more than one thing and should expand beyond one thing; Conflict: breaking out is difficult and other people resist it; Reassessment: the song encapsulates the franchise; Relevance: middle school and high school experience

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  • Ryan: “I think so.”
  • Ryan: “It is a fairly honest thing that you feel in middle school and high school.”
  • Dani: “that was exactly what I was just about to say is,”
Source details
  • Method: Selector: Danny; Rating scale upper: 10; Selector rating required: False
  • Scene judgments are separate from whole-film verdicts and competitive scores.

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