The Proposal

Raw respondent mention: Curtis David Sheck Prompt: Curtis David Sheck, will you make me the happiest man by agreeing that we need to ban the khaki pant? Rules: The only people that can still wear it after this proposal are middle-aged men going on a safari and zookeepers, and they have to wear the appropriate hat to go with it. Answer qualification: Unresolved: [['just the pants', 'no more khaki'], [[1339], [1340], [1341], [1342], [1344]], 'Extent beyond pants remains unsettled; Curtis alone is the intended recipient.']

Welcome to Reverse Psychology, the Frasier Rewatch Podcast, where we go backwards through every episode of the show. Tonight, we are covering Season 9, Episode 15, The Proposal, which originally aired on February 5th, 2002. Will Daphne say yes? We'll find out. I'm your host, Curtis Schack. Joining me as always, it's our resident upside downer, it's Ryan Sanzone. Curtis. Hello. I'm excited. I love a good or even bad proposal. Thrilled to be here. We're going to find out later. Also with us is a man with no sexual feeling in his groin area at all. It's Bradley Kirkston. It is. It's so good to talk to people that have proposed. It's I will never. Thank you. Let's have a great show. Wait, did Curt propose? Do we know that? I did propose, but never say never, Brad. Yeah, that's true. You're right, Justin Bieber. It is too late to say sorry, though. You're right. Ah, okay. I don't. We're doing all Biebs stuff tonight, Curt. Yeah. Only early 2010 humor tonight, okay? That is the gist of this episode. I was not paying attention during the 2010s, so I don't have anything for you. Me and Ryan can tell the audience that is true. There was a solid 10 years that Curtis just wasn't paying attention. Yeah, definitely. I mean, you were still a sandwich artist then, and you're like, fuck this decade. That was a thing you declared to us. Well, and that was at the very, very beginning of the decade, but I did hold that attitude throughout. We do have to discuss some very sad news, which by the time this airs, all the people listening will have had time to process this news, but... Do you think the media will stop talking about it by then? Because I'm sure it's really big on pop culture shows, so... It was announced yesterday. I already forgot. They have canceled the Frasier 2023 revival. It's dead. Murder most foul. It's not dead dead, right? They're shopping it, so we're going to see. Yeah, well, I think it's... Everything's going successfully. When I first read the press release that it was canceled and that they were going to shop it around, I was skeptical they would find a home for it, but then somebody online was posting about it, and they said that that is just something they say nowadays to save face. That it's not... They're not really going to find a home for it. Actually, I saw that response too, Curtis, and it sounds like almost every show that gets canceled from streaming. That's the press release. Yeah. You know what? That is a little disappointing. It wasn't the best show, but it's better than some of the crap out there. And as any of our listeners know, I've only still seen the first episode. I've not seen the second episode. You mean the first season? The first season. Sorry. I've only seen the first season and not the second season, so my two co-hosts have seen the second season, so they're better judges than I am currently. But what's your reaction based on the first season? I thought it would get at least three or four seasons because it was only 10 episodes. It seemed simple. It seemed like there was enough nostalgia. I was a little surprised when I heard. Now, obviously, I don't know what you guys say too much because you've seen the second season, but I was a little surprised. They said in the presser that Curtis made us read that it was one of the only multi-camera sitcoms on Paramount+. It doesn't make sense that it was there anyway. The only other show they have that's like a Paramount Plus original or whatever is Colin from Accounts, and that's actually just an import from an Australian channel. Does look good, though. We could switch over to that one for next season. Colin from Accounts is solid. But yeah, I thought there was some hope that it was getting shopped, but oh well. Honestly, by the time this airs, this might be a very silly conversation because it may have been picked up by Hulu or whatever. Let's go Roku TV. And if not, we can do a proper in-memoriam forum after Brad has seen all of season two. That's absolutely what we should do. Tubi. Let's hope Tubi picks it up. I hope Roku, because I have that. That would be helpful. Assuming Roku Tubi, one of the lesser streaming apps, lesser than Paramount Plus streaming apps out there. Excuse me, sir. Roku TV has a weird amount of This Old House, which is one of the best things you can put on and not pay attention to. Can we do a This Old House podcast? We can bring in Norm, the host from This Old House. That's neither of the host's names. Let's go up and talk with Norm Abram, our head carpenter up here. Yes, it is. The original. It's not Vila. No, it was Norm. Welcome to This Old House. I'm Bob Vila. Whatever. We're getting too far afield. They say they're shopping it around. We'll see if it gets revived. But I want to know if there are any other TV shows that you would have liked to have seen revived, canceled too soon. Every show that's ever been canceled deserved it. That's an interesting perspective. Oh my God, I have so many answers. Should I go first? You seem to be brimming with them, so go ahead. There's like the two classic Freaks and Geeks didn't make sense to why I was canceled at the time. And then Firefly absolutely should have gone way more seasons. I have no idea what why that didn't go to like 10 seasons. Whereas what was the show you like? Star Trek? That show went for 800 seasons. First of all. That is now, I think, counting up towards a dozen shows. Yeah. You're telling me that Firefly couldn't get two seasons? Actually, there was just recently one of the newer Star Trek shows Lower Decks got canceled and people seem upset about it. Oh, that was the one with the chick from Walking Dead. No, that was the one. Although that was also canceled recently. Yeah, this is the cartoon. Oh, right. Okay. This is how you've been spending your free time? I have an answer too that's a little old school, a little older than what you guys said. It did last four seasons, but it should have gone for at least 10 to 12 seasons. Oh, at least 10 to 12. You know, it's going to be one of those terrible 90s shows. As I continue to talk, I think you guys will figure out what show it is. It was on from 86 to 1990. All right, stop it. Are you talking about Elf? Yeah, it's the only show that did a good job of showing what life would be like for me. What do you mean would be like for you? If what? You know, if I lived in California in a suburban home. That would be your first joke on the whole pod. But yeah, it should still be on. I had a list of shows, like Ryan, you named a couple of older shows. Some of those shows, if they were actually revived today, wouldn't work because too much time has passed. Elf would work. Elf, you could just get a whole new cast, but keep the puppet. It would just be the podcast. It would just be me. You don't even need a puppet. I can just play the role. What are you proposing? I don't know what he's proposing. Instead of getting a puppet, I'll just be Elf. You think just the audio version of Elf would be good? It hasn't been on this pod. If they redid Elf, we can be the actors. I'll be Elf and you guys will just be the characters of other actors. We don't need a whole new cast. We are the cast. I've never seen Elf. Oh, you're killing me, Curtis. I've seen an episode or two. I think I made you watch an episode, Ryan, because we saw it on WGN in 2009 and I made you watch an episode. Most of my viewership with Elf was that one weird drug cartoon where all the cartoons teamed up to fight marijuana. Yes. I don't even know what you're talking about. Yes. I assume it was a Dare production. Wrong! You've never seen that? It's amazing. For some reason, Michelangelo is the only Ninja Turtle that's there. Yep. It was like an early 90s campaign to stop against marijuana. Drugs aren't your pal, pal. I was encouraged to do drugs as a kid. So I don't... I do drugs now because of that video. So I don't know. I don't know if that was successful or not. Pretty pitiful, huh? So my only experience with Elf was I think on probably this podcast, there was some moment where, Brad, you probably brought up Elf. And I was looking for like, I was like watching YouTube best of Elf clips, trying to find something funny, something interesting to like drop into the episode. It was like just a clip from Elf. And after, I don't know, a half hour of searching and watching clips, I just gave up because nothing was good. You had to watch every single Elf clip. Yeah, right? It was really disappointing. You guys have named a few things I'm not familiar with. And I could pretty easily just drop something on YouTube and find something that I appreciated to pull out. What do you mean? Because it's always sports stuff. Nikita. I found some stuff for Nikita. I wasn't Brad. That was a different co-host. Curtis, what's the answer to your... What's your answer? What's the answer to your answer, Curt? I want to see season three of Schmigadoon. I couldn't get into it. I tried watching an episode or two. No one watched it. We've not got this before. Yeah, I couldn't get into it, buddy. And I love a good musical, but I couldn't get into it. Sorry, man. I'm not that into musicals, actually, but I really like that show. I like a musical. I would watch it. Just haven't. It's good. If I'm knocking out musicals, though. The first one I'm going to is Book of Mormon. I saw Book of Mormon. Book of Mormon's whatever. I assume that's what Schmigadoon is. It's like in The Walking Dead was also Glee. Is there any talk shows from the 90s or 2000s you would bring back? Like, Curtis, would you bring back the Rosie O'Donnell show? Any talk shows? I'm going to take this one. I would not bring back any talk shows. I would get rid of all the current ones. I don't know why they still exist. You're not a big Drew Barrymore talk show fan? Is that a real? Yeah. No. Barrymore, get back to acting. What are you doing? Would you like more episodes of Geraldo Rivera? I was going to give you a hard time because I was going to say, no, talk shows are still good. There are some good ones. And then I was like thinking about the ones I was thinking of, and they're all podcasts now. Like, they're not actually talk shows. They obviously make way more sense as a podcast. Yeah. I don't need to see your stupid faces. Just talk. That's the part of this podcast. That's the whole point of the show. I was just going to say that. Well, should we, you know, shut up and just talk and get into this episode? That's what most people say about us. So, yeah. Is that our hashtag? I don't hate it. We've not come up with anything better. We open with fireworks over Seattle. And we get a title card. The ring. At the jewelers, Niles drops an engagement ring. Fraser kneels as he hands it back to Niles, which looks like a proposal. Marty is a homophobe about it. Continuing to just kill it. Episode 16. The proposal that's happening. Why not? Pretty sure it's episode 15, but it's fine. Did I get that wrong? You did. You did. Well, all right. You know what? Changes everything. Unrealizes episode 15. Just over the halfway point, I guess. You guys both have proposed to somebody. I have not. Did you also bring your brother and father? Because you both have them. Did you bring them to select your ring? No. No. Did you even consider it? No. Before I was even ready to look at rings, one of my friends from Columbus was like, hey, we're going to go ring shopping. I was like, for what? She's like, for your soon-to-be wife. I was like, oh, yeah, we probably should do that at some point. She ran it down. She broke everything down. She explained how it all worked. It was extremely helpful. I did pick it out by myself. Nice. Did you bring your dad and brother, Curtis? I did not tell a single person on this planet that I was doing this until it was done. Because you know nothing about jewelry. How did you pick out the ring? Okay. So there is a story to this. Here's how much Curtis knows nothing about rings. He lost his immediately. Yes. As soon as it was relevant. We've told that story. Here's another I'm a terrible husband story. I was under the impression that my boyfriend at the time was not interested in engagement rings. I thought he didn't want a ring. So when I proposed, I thought, well, what can I get him that's not a ring? Something that has a similar sort of, you know, elegance to it and something meaningful, but also like substantive. And what I landed on... Right before you answer, I'm so excited because you don't know anything about elegance. Can't wait to hear what's happening. I think I did pretty good under the circumstances. The thing he has talked a lot about, he was very keen on the idea of a Tiffany lamp. So I got a... I mean, it's a recreation. It's not like an original. It'd be worth thousands of dollars. But it was a nice, high quality Tiffany lamp. What do you mean a recreation? So technically a Tiffany lamp was... They were all made in like the 1920s or something. And they're like made by Tiffany company. Nowadays, you can get lamps in a similar style. But you didn't buy this from the Tiffany store. I did not buy this from Tiffany. No. Okay. Interesting. But yeah, it's a beautiful lamp. It's stained glass and really, really nice. I mean, he loves it. But as soon as he had said yes, he was like shopping for rings. And I was like, oh, I thought you didn't want a ring. And apparently he just didn't want to spend a lot of money on a ring just to need to get another ring for the wedding. So he just wanted a cheap ring. But he got to go shopping for a ring, which he enjoyed. So that's honestly a weird in between that he's landed on. Curt, did you get down on one knee and hand someone a lamp? That's no. So what I did was I set the bedroom up with some candles and I had the lamp in the room in the background. And then I was in the foreground on one knee when he walked in. I think that's where you screwed up. Lamp should have been in the foreground. You should have handed it to him like a trophy, but from the ground. So he walks in. There's just a lamp on the floor waiting for him. And I'm on the other end of the room just like, so is that a yes? I mean, I guess he said yes. So it worked out. But yeah, that's what I would. If we were talking through it, that's how we would have done it. Now we understand why I didn't tell us all. All right, back to the show. So do you guys think it's weird that Niles brought her to his dad and brother? I don't think it's that weird. I think it's definitely weird. Ryan, you said you had a female friend take you through the process. Niles does not appear to have any women in his life. Who was he going to go with? Of course he went with his brother and his father. Why wouldn't you go with Ross? They're not really friends. I don't think. Oh, what? She's gotten him out of a jam. I think she can help him, you know, walk him through the ring process. Although that didn't really seem to be the issue. It did not seem to be the issue. No, it seemed like he knew what he wanted. Yeah, he knew the size. And you know, he and Frasier have opinions about jewelry. So I don't think that was a concern. I think Marty was brought along more as like, I'll be nice to my dad and invite him along. But I think Frasier was the real. And Marty was the only one that was really an issue in the scene. As I'm sure Ryan's going to want to pounce on. They didn't want Marty home alone. You know, they didn't trust him. Well, I do have a question about Marty because there's a moment in this scene at the very top where he walks in and he misunderstands something. I think he was looking at like an earring and mistakes it for a wedding ring. And he's like, oh, I better put my glasses on. And they make kind of a point about he can't see because he needs his glasses. I thought that was going to lead to some kind of a bit or a joke somewhere. But it never comes back. That's just a weird moment for no reason. It seems like that's a line that could have easily been written out and not changed the scene whatsoever. It was a terrible joke. Was it a joke? It would have worked better as a joke if they didn't move the glasses thing. Yeah, it's weird. They followed up with the glasses and it's weird. It had no payoff. A hundred percent. But what did make sense was how homophobic Marty is. And there we go. That tracked a lot. I can't believe they made the joke twice in one scene. Just in case you weren't sure. I know. I think it's time to revisit something. Last season, I, Ryan, had conceded that the evidence to date suggested that you are correct about your opinion of Marty. Now, I have been continuing to judge and evaluate Marty. Ooh, exciting. And I got to say, most of this season, I've been a little bit neutral. He's had a couple of good moments. He's been calm. He's been very calm. He's not done a lot to add the pile of evidence against him. He's had some funny lines. But here's the thing. He hasn't done anything to redeem himself in the intervening episodes. And now we've gotten to this. And I think it's time to say, again, I will continue to reevaluate him. I'm hopeful that he will get better at some point. But, Ryan, you've nailed it so far. Ha, ha, ha. Yes, he's a terrible person. He's old. He can barely help it. He's from a different generation. But, yes, Marty sucks. Suck it, Brad. I can't defend him in this episode, especially the scene. It wouldn't be the time, that's for sure. He does do homophobic stuff, but we'll talk about it later. He does stuff that's just as bad, I feel like, later on. Like, this is not a good Marty episode in any sense of the word. So, yeah, you're right. It's a very accurate Marty episode. I cannot defend him in this episode. If you would have asked me last episode, I could have easily defended him. But, nope, not there. Like Curt said, he's been very new. He hasn't done much. Well, this, he has done the worst things, so. You have two settings. No decision and bad decision. We got an interesting line. What bejeweled seraph has escaped her provenance now. Don't even know what it means, but it's very Frasier. What was the weird latent thing that they do? Is that, I, they did it like it's a thing they do all the time. Latent. The jewelry waiter, I don't know what you call this guy, but the clerk at the jewelry store comes over to them, assumes that they're a gay couple. They're not. He kind of walks away. And Frasier and Niles both say latent, as in latent homosexuality. Is that a thing? I think they're saying that guy is a closeted gay guy. That's what I took it as. Did he say he wasn't gay? I don't know. I took it as that they were essentially calling this guy gay. What's the latent part? Like obvious, right, Curtis? Is that what they were trying to say? I believe so, yes. That's not what latent means. They're calling him a closet gay, but like, there's nothing to say he isn't. Yeah. It was so weird. It was delivered in a way where it's like, oh, this is their catchphrase or something. Look, it's something we have said way too many times on the show, and I'll say it for this episode. This episode would never happen in today's world. It's just this whole scene would never have happened. Because they're both psychiatrists and kind of old school psychiatrists. Yeah. I think this is a psychology term, latent homosexuality, that they feel like they've diagnosed this guy from this interaction. Oh, that's a good way to put it. Like it's a diagnosis. That's why I think they say it to each other in that knowing way. It's not because it's a catchphrase. It's because they've both made the same diagnosis. Yeah, that's a good way. It was stupid. So there's that. And now that it's been explained to me, I like it less. Yeah. Not defending it, just explaining it. Right. So we find out Niles and Daphne's finger size is the same. You know, nice little bit. Tracks. Fits with everything I've seen out of them. I thought there was going to be more jokes. Yeah, I thought they could have put more of a punchline to it. I don't think there's anything to say. Fair enough. We get another title card. The Words. Niles is at the cafe fretting over what he will say. Roz tries to help him pare it back, but winds up emotional herself. Sorry for the rhyming. That's fine. We're going to talk Iambic here in a second, but. I like the bit where he's like. Gossiping ninny. Don't worry. He swore me to secrecy. I swore him to secrecy. Even before we get to that part, how do you feel about just opening up with Niles crying at the coffee shop as he's reading his proposal? It was dumb. Did you write out your proposal like that, Ryan? Was yours four pages long? No. Real talk. I was so nervous during the proposal. There was no way I could give a speech. And Curtis, did you also give a speech that was four pages long? He was worried about the land. It was not that long in order to make it a surprise because I knew he did not want anything public. So I had to be in the home. And the only way to surprise him was for him to come back from work to have me propose right then. So I didn't know exactly what time he was going to get home from work. So I spent about an hour just on one knee in the bedroom just waiting. And I realized that I didn't have anything prepared to say. And I wrote on my phone what to say and then memorized it before he got there. Can you read it back? I don't have it in front of me. You deleted it? I'm not going to read it. Even if he did, his husband would never let him read it on air. Yeah. I'm not going to put that on the podcast. Second off, did you compare your husband to three different roses like Niles did? I'm a man who bought fake rose petals for his engagement. So no. So you did not compare him to the fake rose petals. You spent all your money on the fake lamp. We get it, Curt. I don't get why Niles is so choked up about this because the rest of the time he doesn't really have much regard for Daphne. Like that's what all of season 11 is him just taking advantage of her existence. And a lot of it in 10. I don't know. I don't know where this emotion is coming from. It goes away after this. A good point. By the way, another great scene of we needed something for us to do. Is this all she does? This is all she does, right? Yeah. This is it. She should have definitely been around for the proposal, though. But is this the fourth or fifth episode in a row of her just really not having a big role at all? I think that's just her character in this show. I'm optimistic that in the first seven seasons, they figure out how to write for her because it's clear that they don't have anything for any of the females. You're willing to go another season and a half with little Roz because we're on nine. I don't think it drops off sharply. That'd be surprising. Got it. She is trying to walk him through how to cut back his proposal. I don't know why she would be the editor for this. It doesn't make a lot of sense. But that she winds up getting emotional, too. Nothing we are hearing is that emotional. Well, definitely that. But also, who cares if you get emotional during a proposal? That's like what you're kind of going for, isn't it? Yes. But I think his whole point was he was doing four pages worth. And so he would have cried the whole entire time. Cut it after you cried. It's fine. Well, I don't think he was willing to do that. Then you just hand her the manuscript after that. I don't know what was most disturbing. His description of the inner core reincarnated soul's sex orgy. Or the fact that the whole thing is written in screenplay format. I don't know. Yeah. How did you propose to your wife? I just pointed her to the manuscript. You didn't say anything? Well, I was crying in the other room. I was very emotional. We get another title card. The wine. The boys are tasting wines for the proposal. The ultimate goal is to get Marty drunk so he will agree to distract Gert during the proposal. Frazier finds out he was an accident. So this is where the episode kicks off. The rest of it. Who gives a shit? This is where we start. Yeah. Because we're having a wine tasting, which looks very fun. And it turns out it's just the Duke Marty, which I don't know. Seems like he could have just asked him to take the bullet on this one. I don't think we had to get him super fucking smashed. I don't think it was just for that. I do think he was genuinely trying to pick out wine. There's no chance. Zero percent. That is absolutely not what we're doing. They know wine too well to need to do the tasting. Yeah. Fair enough. They had every glass in America on that table. We'll get to that in a second. But I want to believe you, Ryan, that Marty is the kind of guy that he'll take the bullet in this case. He knows he needs to do it for his son. But that they think they need to get him drunk to say yes to this, frankly, very reasonable ask. Like it's another notch against Marty, I feel like. He's a bad guy. And dads are bad in the Frazier universe. We know that. I get why they're concerned. But he would have bit the bullet. But you know what we know he's good at? Saying Claire Wojodubikowski. He was weirdly good at that. I liked that. I thought that was a good drunk test. I hope it comes back in the future or in the past, I guess. You want to meet Claire? No, no. I just hope that they referred. Like, let's see how drunk Marty is right now. Okay. He didn't put up enough of a fight or wasn't drunk enough for when he acquiesced. And I thought that was a mistake. That was really the only knock I have on the scene. How do you feel about the big reveal with Frazier? It's hilarious. It only gets better once Niles reveals that he knew when he got chicken pox. And he didn't say anything for, what, 30 years, 40 years? Yeah. Chicken pox is a kid disease, right? I'm pretty sure. He knew for a long time. To make him feel better. This is the thing that I have a hard time with, though, is that his mom told Niles about Frazier being an accident to cheer him up when he had chicken pox. That's the reason he says, the age of chicken pox seems to me you would be too young to even really understand the accident thing, let alone cheer you up. You would, but Niles wouldn't. I will say, I got it at a young age. My brother was like 12 or 13 when he got it. He was much older. Oh. Yeah. Okay. I've never had it, so. Can't wait for shingles. I thought it was people who had chicken pox that got shingles. All right. That was the opposite. I think you're both right. People that have chicken pox are more prone to get it. People that don't have, do not have chicken pox can get really, really sick if they get it. I think that's right. Maybe we should also get the vaccine. Fair enough. A public service announcement from reverse psychology. From three guys that are not medical professionals. Make sure you're up to date on your vaccinations today. Frazier was very mad. And normally, Frazier blows things out of the water. I'm not sure he was mad enough when he found this out. I thought him sitting in the kitchen sulking was actually really good acting and pretty perfect. It was good acting. The bit where he, Marty, like Marty understands why he's upset. It's because he's afraid that he's a year older than he was told. That they just lied about the wedding date, not the age of him is a nice little bit. It's a funny reveal. Yeah. But I feel like, yeah, I think he had an appropriate response because I don't, I can imagine it being shocking, but honestly, I mean, would you really care if you found out that you were a mistake? At the age of what, 40 something? I think probably that. If I was hammered on wine, I was trying to help my brother, found out he knew. Yeah, I think I'd do that. I don't think I would keep helping him that day. Interesting. Not all of us are saints like you, Curt. I don't know. I will say this about the end of the scene. So Daphne and her mom show up and I really want to know what they were thinking. I know they were in their own world of being mad at each other for torturing each other, but they walk into a shocking amount of wine bottles on the table. What do they think they're walking into? You know what? That is a really great point because they don't question it or even bring it up. Yeah. And they don't make any attempt to be like, oh, she's home. Put these away. Like they make no attempt to hide that they're tasting all these wines. Do they think it's just like a normal Monday? Like, I don't know. Like, I don't know what day of the week it is actually, but maybe they're just so, maybe they do this more often than we think. Just randomly drink lots of wine. I love that. I love if it's just Niles and Frazier get cranked on wine every week and they're like, oh yeah, another, it's Thursday. Happening again. Yeah. New scene, new title card. The Diversion. Marty has taken Gert out on a sunset cruise. Also on the cruise is a woman who is sweet on Marty. When he tells Gert he is impotent, the woman overhears and backs away quietly. There's so much weird going on in this scene. So weird. Even though we're about to get into some fun bits that are also very weird. This, I thought this was the weirdest. Did they go on a cruise? Where are we? I think it's a sunset cruise. Yeah. Like an evening cruise. Is that a thing? We almost had my high school prom there. It's a different story for a different day for a sunset cruise. Fun. My point is all he had to do was just hang out with her. So his only idea was to take her on a sunset cruise? Yeah. Why is this a date? I want to defend this. This is Gert we're talking about. She's unpredictable. He needed to get her not just out of the house, but somewhere where she couldn't return to land. He needed her to be fully away and have no risk of her returning to the house. Do you think we're still in Seattle? How far did we go? Well, yeah. They're just on the bay. Yeah. They're just on the bay. Yeah. Did they say that or are you just assuming? It's an assumption. Yeah. It's a safe Puget Sound is probably where they are, but I think that's a safe assumption. Because they're like debating if this is even a date, right? Like, of course it's a date. You're on this weird boat trip. Yeah. I mean, that is the part that like I, again, I defend it because I do think it was smart to get her on a boat somewhere where she would be trapped. But the idea that a sunset cruise isn't going to seem very, very romantic. Like, I don't know. What was the invite? Like, what do you think you said to her? I was shocked we didn't see that scene of him awkwardly asking her out. That would have been fun. What could he possibly have said? Like, hey, you trying to go on a night boat with me? Not a date. Just a hang. I think he just left her like a message on the answering machine. Just meet me by the ducks at seven. Honestly, I think that's the most plausible thing you could possibly speculate. We should talk about the two women who we get introduced to. We don't actually know their names, I don't think. But they work with Marty, or one of them does. And we find out that Marty made out with one of them at the Christmas party. At the Christmas holiday party, right? Yeah. Yeah. This girl is what, a third of his fucking age? That was the other thing. I was like, wait. Yeah. She looked like she was 40 and he's 90. I know that's an exaggeration, but still. I knew it was way older than that. Yeah. Okay. Well, and then she describes like, yeah, we made out of the party. We were a little drunk. And then after that, he was calling me. He would call and hang up. He came by my house. Like she starts describing stalker behavior. Yeah. And then her friend starts to pressure her and to go up and talk to him again. I don't think this woman wants to talk to Marty. Like I don't, like she, I can't tell if she's like kind of into him and turned away by the impotence thing. Or if she is just like, I guess I should talk to him, but I don't really like him. And I felt like the writers were writing her to be like very desperate. She made out with Marty. So obviously she's desperate. It's surprising that she backs out. Do you appreciate the comeuppance Marty's getting here that this woman who at least was willing to give him a shot here and works with him, by the way. Is that one of the impression he has no dick? That is funny. It is such a funny thing to like just say like way too loudly on a sunset cruise. But yeah, it doesn't work at all, Gertrude. At all. And to Marty's defense, he doesn't think anyone would be interested on the boat. It seemed like no opportunity lost, but apparently it was. Maybe that's the other reason he chose the boat. He knew that his backup plan to stop any romance from happening was just to pull this out as his get out of jail free card. And he thought he was saying it somewhere where there would be as few people he might know as possible. Well, Ryan, as our, you know, resident Marty hater, how did you feel about him lying to Gertrude about that? Why do you think that was a lie? Sorry. Sorry. That's the only thing that Marty said that you actually liked that he said? The first and last true thing he's ever said. Got it. Okay. You guys are like, how about the comeuppets? It's so annoying how many ladies are into Marty. And instead, like by season 11, it's like, oh yeah, I just thought love was over for me. It's like you've had a weird amount of opportunities for a very old guy who can't walk very good. Yeah. That's a pretty good point. Also, like younger women, like Ronnie is 20 years younger. He was competing with his son to get Ronnie. Insane. So yeah, I honestly more annoyed than like, okay, great. He lost an opportunity. He didn't know about it. He didn't know about it. So he's not suffering for that. I didn't get as much of the vengeance as I guess you guys are thinking. Fair enough. Yeah. One more time. It's a title card. The Proposal. Frazier is coaching Wolfgang Puck on how to prepare the proposal dinner. When Daphne arrives with the flu, Frazier has to sneak out the choir, the string quartet, the men in Cupid costumes, and finally the waiter. Nails decides to propose anyway. And as she says yes, Frazier tackles the royal trumpeter. How did they land the airport food guy? Wolfgang Puck is the airport food guy? What? Yeah. Is this something I'm supposed to get? I think the Cleveland airport has a Wolfgang Puck pizza joint or something. Is he a famous chef outside of at least a couple airports I've been to? Yes. He has a lot of very fancy restaurants. Yes. He was very much a early 2000s famous chef. I've been to his restaurant in Las Vegas. It's very, very good. It's very expensive. I've been to his restaurant in the Cleveland airport. It's not very good. I would pass on it. But Wolfgang Puck is played by Wolfgang Puck, for those of you who are wondering. I wasn't sure if he was even a real person. He is. Oh, that's funny. I mean, he's not an actor. He's not a trained actor. His acting was not good. But the lines he was given and his general state of annoyance with Frazier was pitch perfect. And I really enjoyed it. Well, look, I have never hired a private chef. I'll be honest. But I think if I did, I wouldn't stand there in the kitchen watching and judging every move he made. I would. Absolutely. I know you would. I would live for that. Oh, now I'm excited to do that. I would not. This is the difference between you and I. The only thing that's different. I would have a real night of it. I'd be like, you don't even have to serve the food. I'm just going to judge you while you're cooking my kitchen. Wow. That's amazing. Oh, but you know what I could really go for? A microwave, bean and cheese burrito. I'll go heat that up for you. With Pringles on the side? Thanks, David Chang. First off, you're wrong because you would do that and then he'd give you one thing that you really liked. And you'd be like, oh, I'm not going to say anything else. Not Wolfgang. Maybe some other chef. I've had his grab and go food. It's shit. Before Daphne even gets in and we realize how extravagant this proposal is. First reaction, Ryan. What are you thinking? It felt very Niles. Though I think the only weird thing is why is Frasier there? Because no matter how that reveals it, it's going to be annoying and weird. I got the thought that once it started, Frasier was going to leave. He was just making sure it all got started. It's even more annoying. He's in the kitchen with Wolfgang. They've got such a staff built up for this thing. I think Niles needed a helping hand on the management department. He needed to manage this giant group of people and that's what he's there for. Yeah, but Frasier's only managing Wolfgang Park. I agree with you, Curtis, but I don't think Daphne would have known he was there. Well, she doesn't. Yeah. She might not have known he was there, but she's obviously going to know all these other people are there. Yes. And I think Frasier probably would have stuck around to make sure they got paid and see them out and just take care of the logistics. Logistics drop, logistics drop. We got ourselves a logistics drop. The rest of this episode is logistics. Correct. And you know how much I love logistics. You get called off like, we're not going to do it. You all have to leave. And the questions asked, like, are we still getting paid? Like, we came, we showed up, we were ready to do the job. Are we getting paid? And to my surprise, not only did Frasier say, yes, you're getting paid, but he didn't hesitate, which I thought he was about to cheap out. Not even a little bit. We didn't see the paychecks come out. You know, I'm sure there was going to be some cribbles after that. You think he was just trying to get them out of the house. And once they were out, like, you're getting paid, like, for the time you were here, which is like 30 minutes. I don't think it's full pay. Curtis, you mentioned Angel that asked if they were getting paid. The guy dressed up like an angel. That's the same guy that's in the movie Bad Santa. For those of you who've seen the movie Bad Santa. Oh, sure. Asking Wolfgang if he can make a chicken noodle soup was great. Oh, yes. Good point. And he didn't say no. But he gave a face. He gave a great face. Yeah. It wasn't even make a chicken noodle soup. It was just heated up, right? I think it was already made. I think it was a can. Yeah, a can. I didn't mean it was soup. He said, can you heat up some chicken broth? Yeah, broth. That's what it was. Yeah. Also, how about Fraser doing a classic, I just threw in some doves into your apartment? Yes. I'm surprised the doves didn't make a bigger appearance because they have like one little bit of feathers and I thought there was going to be more of a crash of doves and that didn't really happen. On two different occasions in my life at work, I've been asked if people could have birds at things. Not a joke. I've said no both times and it's always the right move. I'll let this on record. No one should ever surprise anyone with birds. Correct. Unless they're like the biggest bird fan ever. And even then, I probably would run it by them. Correct. Yeah. No, I agree. I'm trying to poke holes in your logic, but I don't have any holes to poke. We haven't had a big scene this season and this wasn't the best one we've seen, but this was a lot of fun. I enjoyed the hell out of it. Daphne is sick and trying to get her like out of the way so they can get rid of all the people without her noticing. And of course she wants to come back into the living room and they're all there and they're like hiding behind furniture as she comes into the living room. And then Fraser has to sort of commando them out, like giving them hand signals and waving them through. It's a lot of fun. Niles didn't do enough to distract her and that kind of annoyed me because you have this whole setup. They were having like a really amazing conversation, but no one was paying attention to their conversation because there were so many other moving parts, but they were having like a really nice romantic conversation. As the viewer, why do you care? Like, you know Niles doesn't actually respect her. Oh. Why don't we have some fun while they're doing all that? What was the guy at the end? Why would he leave at first? I think he was just too afraid to get caught. Is that what it was? We get to the proposal. Niles is just about to say, will you marry me? And I love that it's interrupted with a very, very long blowing of the nose. I think that's a great little bet. And the fact that she sneezes directly on him. You know, we know he's got issues with germs. So that was pretty fun. Ryan, even though you knew she says yes, obviously, were you kind of hoping for it? Were you like still in that moment or you just kind of gave up? You knew it was going to be a yes. Yeah, there wasn't anything to mess around with. Maybe it would have been funny if she like passed out from, you know, being extremely sick. But I don't know. This was fine. I feel like knowing Frasier, like this series and what we've seen of it in seasons 9, 10, and 11, I could see a world in which this episode ends with her never getting the question asked and they never actually get engaged. And then the very next episode, it's just like dropped in casually. Oh, yeah. Since we're engaged, I can see them just like skipping past the actual proposal. Yeah. I mean, the fact that they didn't was the only reason I was pretty confident we were seeing it. And I'll take it because I know it would have been cheap there. And what wasn't cheap was Frasier doing an amazing tackle on the trumpeteer. The only issue I have with that was how good his form was. It was shockingly good. I can't imagine that would have been completely silent the way that it is. No, there's no chance. There's no chance you tackle somebody on, I'm assuming, wood floors. It's also like pretty much in her like eye shot, right? 20 yards away, 15 yards away, maybe less. Not even front of her even. Yeah. Like slightly up. Yeah. I thought it was weird like when they do the whole setup. And now it's like, oh, yes, I'll get you to the fireplace. And it's like, you've moved her one foot. You might as well just kept her where she was. And certainly it wasn't advantageous in any particular manner. Maybe not at the end of the scene. But at some point in the scene, I feel like Niles assumed everybody had left and didn't realize they were still there either. So both him and Daphne. He doesn't know he needs to distract Daphne from all the people getting out. Yeah, that was the vibe I got. Another quibble. If you're going to get a trumpeter to announce your proposal, it's being accepted, I guess. One trumpeter. I feel like you got to get like three, four, maybe even five. It's in his apartment. Well, they got one. First of all, the acoustics of the apartment, it probably carries. You're saying one would be perfect. Five would be too much. He's got a string quartet. He's got a choir. Like there will be music. But he just needs one guy to do like the da-da-da-da-da-da-da announcement thing. Not for my money. I would have got five. Regardless of sound. It'd be fine if our eardrums were shattered at the end. Fraser plays us out with Daphne curled up with Niles. Fraser is carrying a gagged Wolfgang over his shoulder to get him out. I was so mad when you get to see how this happened. I was so mad. How do you carry out Wolfgang Puck gagged and not like explain how that happens? Why is he gagged? What is going on? He was mad about the chicken noodle thing. I was more mad about the dove stuff. Ryan, did you know it was Wolfgang at first? Or are you learning this now? Okay. No, I'm learning this right now. But whatever. Airport guy. Who cares? It was the doves that were annoying me. The thing I don't like about this scene, and I don't know what they've established in seasons one through nine, but we know that there is a back door from the kitchen. So why does he need to take him out the front? Oh my God. Yeah, you're right. Oh no. You know what, Curt? They put that in after this. Fraser's like, this is what you've got to do. This was unacceptable. It was still, to me, sadly, one of the better tossed salad and scrambled eggs, because at least it was like fun, but it was weird. Oh yeah. Easily top five. Ryan, I do think this is the first time you've had two episodes in a row that you've said the tossed salad is top five. So that's pretty impressive. I think the whole season's been strong on the tossed salad. Yeah. We've all kind of been of the opinion this season is not the strongest, but I think that all said, the scrambled egg scenes have been much stronger than normal. Yeah. Okay. But to counterbalance that, they're still bad. 10 and 11 were just trash. It was like, why are you wasting my time? Just do credits. Like, who gives a shit about this? Season nine, they're okay, right? You're 100% right. The ones we got in season 10 and 11 were like, I don't know what this is. Why are you doing this? This season is like, oh, it's a joke. Okay. Yeah. Not a good joke. Not a great joke. Not amazing. Just, okay. I see what you did there. And we saw a new Fraser that had some that were okay. So we know that the format can work. I still hope they get way better, even from this run we've been on of like three or four good ones. We can be assured of this. In season one, it's all but guaranteed they will be good because we know if new Fraser did it well, then clearly it takes about 20 years to like figure out how to do it. They had not yet run out of a season's worth of ideas in season one. The Cheers writers were just like, oh, I've got so many good ideas for the closing bit. Well, Brad, what did you think? Was this a good one? This was a solid episode to me. I remember this episode being a little better. So I was very excited for it. Just a little disappointed. There were so many things that we'd mentioned. Oh, I would love more of that. I would love more of that. Like I felt like there was a couple of things they could have digged deeper on. So I'm going to give it a solid B. Yeah. I'm pretty with you. I put this at 32 out of 68. Yeah. Pretty close to the middle. That's the first time you've said I'm pretty with you and then like actually were with them. That's good. I'm learning how words work. And numbers. This landed not as good as Farewell Nervosa with Brice to Steve, but better than Frasier has Spokane. Oh, those two don't belong together. Finding that part of the fun of me doing it this way is finding out where I placed things in the chaos of it. That was shocking too. Once we're done the whole entire series, are you going to re-rank them? I'll answer for them. Yes. After season 11, I did a complete re-ranking because I felt like I had just completely messed it up throughout the process. Which you had. What I realized is that that is a lot of work for no real benefit. So I've decided from here on out, these are locked in. So I don't get to change them. It's too much work to keep rearranging everything. I'm saying when you're done, do a whole new ranking. All right. What I'm saying is I can't do 300 and re-rank all of them. It just is impossible. So I'm not re-ranking them. I want to agree with you, but like, I don't know. Your little brother did it. He figured out the top 51 for Hannah. Yeah. Curtis, I think you would just have to re-watch every episode again. I just think you have to be almost as good as your little brother. That's all I'm saying. I feel good about my top 10 and my bottom 10. It's the middle that is a mess. Fair enough. All right, Ryan, what you got? I think I'm pretty close with you, Brad. I gave it a seven. Yeah. You know, I think this was a really strong, big moment episode. And there was some really good scenes. Like the bad scenes were pretty bad. They left a lot on the table at least. Yeah. I think that's my biggest takeaway is they just left a lot on the table in this episode. That's like my number one thing. Certainly left a lot of wine on the table. Yeah, that's for sure. Great scene though. I would have kept the wine scene. I would have kept the Wolfgang scene. And I guess I would have kept the boat scene and cut the rest. In this episode, Niles proposed marriage to Daphne. But what will we propose to each other? It's a new segment we are calling A Decent Proposal. All right. So how this is going to work. It's going to be normal, right? It's going to be normal. Very normal. Very normal. Each of us has prepared a proposal of some kind. Whoever you propose to will have to accept or you lose. However, if someone you didn't propose to also wants in on the deal, you also lose. You can propose to both, but then both have to say yes for you to win. Brad, you want to go first? I mean, of course. Why not? After that extremely, extremely clear explanation of what we're doing. I don't have a clue what's going on. I can't wait for Brad to go first. Okay. So I have no idea if I'm doing this right. So this is going to be great. Are you on one knee? Get down on one knee. Yeah. I'm proposing. I'll be enough. I'm on one knee. I'm proposing an app. Wait, am I supposed to say who am I proposing this to? You have to. Yeah. You have to tell us who you're proposing this to. And you have to say our full name. Okay. I'm proposing this to Ryan Joel Sansone. No, that's not your proposals work. You say Ryan Joel Sansone, I. And then you do your proposal. Ryan Joel Sansone, I. You just line my metal name. No. I, Bradley Joaquin Kirkston. You don't have to do that part. I have a proposal for you. You have to keep going. There's the proposals aren't interactive. This proposal is an app. And this app will help you with the thing you struggle with the most. That is being upset after sporting events. This app will sense that nervousness, that anxiety that you just had after watching your team get destroyed by just showing you videos of your team being successful without even asking. So like you might see the Steelers lose by a thousand points to the Baltimore football team. I refuse to say their names currently. And then the next day you're just looking at your phone and you're just getting videos of Jerome Bettis dominating people. Like it's an app that designs to make you feel better after your team loses. Wow. Do you accept my proposal? No, absolutely not. Why not? One of the fun things about sports is you get to like feel stuff and it doesn't really matter because it's fucking sports, you know? I like feeling some of the pain that comes with a loss for your team. I want to revel in it for a little bit. You remember feelings, right? Also like it would be a hollow thing to watch. Sometimes we did well in the past. I don't need that. Live in the moment, Bradley. Okay. Out. A shocking turn of events. I will give you this credit, Brad. If you were trying to hyper target your proposal so that I would not want to be a latcher on, you did a great job because I completely blacked out. Didn't even, I didn't even hear what your, I was like, there's emotions involved in this proposal. I knew I could definitely get rid of part of it. I knew trying to convince Ryan was going to be the hard part, but getting you out of it was going to be the easy part. So I took the easy victory on that one. The real problem is as the editor of this show. You didn't have to listen. I don't know how I'm going to cut this all together when it's just white noise. Like that's all I heard was white noise. Should we hear Ryan's proposal next? We may even want to do mine. I don't think mine's very quick. Oh, mine's also not very good. And none of ours are going to be very good. So that'll be good at least. Yeah. I would like to propose to you, Ryan, Joel, Sansone. Who proposes one night? I'm flustered. That Brad should move to New York City. Yeah. Done. Clearly needs a change of pace. Yes. I already said yes. Well, I'll make the case, but yeah. You got a chance to lose me now. He clearly needs a change of pace. It is the city with the highest population of Jewish people. So he has the best shot at finding a mate. Overall, it's going to be good for him. So I think this is the move. Ryan, you say yes. You make me the happiest man in the world and say yes. The other reason I'm hesitant is I feel like New York may overwhelm him or he may get too comfortable too quick. Those are my two concerns. But I mean, yeah, I'll take it. Better than what would that? Brad, are you going to sign on to this or are you not interested? This is interesting. Is there a way to half accept? And I'll explain why. No, absolutely not. Well, so let me give you my answer and then you tell me if you guys would define this as accepting or not accepting. How about this? What if I had the opportunity to work in New York City and to stay there during the week but not live there and take the train Mondays and Fridays? It's the worst of both worlds. Annoying. It's definitely annoying. I would take it. Hold on. You do the part of New York where you have to work, but not the part where you get to live there? You still get a New York salary and you live in Baltimore. I hate that. That's how you took that question. Uh, that's why I'm asking. Does it count or not? We didn't get to live in Baltimore. You mean you would still have to, I guess, under this law? Yeah. I'm not worried about your financial future. I'm worried about you having a social life. Then I think I would have to say no because I would never live in New York. I couldn't do it. It's too much. That is why this proposal about you was given to Ryan because I knew it was the only way I would win it. Brad can remember the worst thing anyone's ever said. I can work in New York, but I get to still live in Baltimore, which they're not close at all. I can pay the surge pricing to get into the city and not get to enjoy any of the fun. Here we go, Ryan. Are you going to somehow propose to yourself to make it a three-peat? Oh my God. That'd be amazing. I wish I was allowed. I mean, I would accept my proposal. That's always a good start. Curtis David Sheck, will you make me the happiest man by agreeing that we need to ban the khaki pant? Oh. I think that the best you can possibly look in a khaki pant is like that you just barely don't belong in a country club. For the most part, 99% of people that wear them look like or are working in a Best Buy. I don't think it's as good a look as everyone seems to think it is. We need to get rid of it. Get it out of here. The only people that can still wear it after this proposal are middle-aged men going on a safari and zookeepers, and they have to wear the appropriate hat to go with it. Curtis, before you answer, can I ask? One clarifying question? Yes, you may. Ryan, is it all khaki pants, or what if it's like a black khaki or like a dark khaki, or is it just any khaki pant? Isn't khaki a color? Yeah, but you can have like a darker khaki or a lighter khaki. What do you mean black khaki? What the fuck does that mean? He just means slacks. Yeah, you can have like a dark khaki as well. That one color. That's the color. Got it. The color that if I was out in the sun enough, I would kind of become that color. Correct. That's fair. Okay. That's fair. Got it. Are you saying just in pants or the color of khaki altogether? I said no more khaki. I maybe could settle for just the pants because if people are wearing khaki shirts, they've already made a terrible choice. Got it. I can be talked into those. Okay. Okay. Before I answer, Ryan, I have two experiences I will share about khaki pants. So the first is that when I got my first big kid job, it was sort of business casual, but you couldn't wear jeans. And so I had to go out and buy khaki pants. Yes. And I almost always wore black pants, but once in a while I would wear the khakis and I never felt comfortable in them. They always seemed a little sad. On the record, I'm not judging anyone. I got like six in my closet. I just, I own them. I would like to get rid of them. The other experience was when I was in college, I was a writing tutor and I was, we were going to a conference for writing centers and I was told to wear khakis and being the fashionista that I am, I wore the khakis that I had, which I thought were khakis. They were that color that you're describing. But when I got there, the all women team that were going to this with me laughed out loud and asked me, why on earth did you wear cargo pants to this? Classic Curtis. I, for the record, thought cargo pants were khaki pants until I was like four years ago. Yes. I literally, this group of women took me to an old Navy to buy me clothes after this conference. But yes, I accept your proposal. That is a great proposal. We could, both of those embarrassing moments in my life could just be out if we didn't have to deal with these pants. Yes, those ladies were in the wrong. They were actually very much hopeful. Of course, they were right. No one's saying that, but the khaki existing, that's the problem. It wasn't you, Curt. You were fine. Brad, are you also on board for this? Because Ryan could still lose this. Absolutely. I agree with this. Yeah. Get rid of this. This was tough because Brad, like half of his wardrobe is wearing the khaki pant. But now he's like, I don't wear pants anymore. I only work at a summer club. Well, I will say my place in general, we used, we had a dress code pre-COVID and that went out. Everyone wears jeans every day. That went out the window since COVID. I like a darker pant, like Curtis was saying. I'm not a big fan of the khaki. Sorry. I thought you said black khaki at some point was a good sign. You're on board. Fair enough. Well, sorry, Ryan. You got close. He loses, but he wins. I thought I won. No. No, because Brad also agrees with you and you only pitched it to me. Oh. Yeah, because Curtis made weird rules. I forgot the format that everyone lets and it makes sense. But at the end of the day, you still win because you get rid of khakis. Brad would have no pants to wear if we threw out khakis. No, I wear jeans now. I'm a big boy. I do have a quick one. If, uh. Eight of peas is the court. Yeah, go. Go for it. This one's for Brad. Okay. Bradley. I propose we start a new brand of coleslaw and it will be called Cool Slaw. It's the same as every other coleslaw, but it's got a better name. Cool Slaw. Can we go over the ingredients? No. It's whatever's in coleslaw. What type of container is it in? A cool one. Actually, it'll just be used Cool Whip containers. There we go. Thank you, Curtis. Okay. If that's going to be the case, then I'm in. Ryan, what do you think? You nailed it. I'm out. Coleslaw sucks. Yeah, I knew he was anti-cluslaw. I'm a piss burger. We put coleslaw on sandwiches for some reason. I don't know. It's the only acceptable use. It still sucks. I'm two for two. I actually knew you were anti-cluslaw. And I like vinegar. It makes no sense, but I don't know. It's just a shitty side dish. Was that coleslaw one what you were actually considering or did you just think of it last second? Dinner. Like, I literally had no ideas. Got it. I was just looking around. What can I use? Is that how you do this? I'm so bad at this stuff. I'm not 100% sure if this segment was amazing or the dumbest one we've ever done. But either way, it will be fun to listen to. I'm not going to explain it. I was going to propose more waterfalls. Where would you guys have landed on that? No explanation. Don't go chasing waterfalls. I would have needed to dig deeper on why. I mean, there just should be more of them. Yeah, and that's when I would have said, sorry, man, no. Well, anyway, I don't have a transition this time. Ryan, why don't you tell us what to expect next week when we cover the previous episode? It's season nine, episode 14, Juvenilia. Ready to back and ready to steal. And I could not figure out anything he would steal. So you think it's going to be a Freddy episode? I mean, it's the only juvenile we have in the whole show. So I have no one else to go off of. Have we ever had two Freddies in a season? No. I mean, other than New Frasier. But even then, it's disappointing. Fair enough. Well, that will do it for us. Thanks to Kevin MacLeod for our theme music, and thank you for listening. I suppose you don't really care if this podcast is successful. You would never take five minutes out of your precious day to go to Apple Podcasts and leave us a review. You don't use Facebook, YouTube, or Instagram, or TikTok. You aren't curious what happens if you search for Reverse Psych Pod. Lord knows you can't be bothered to shoot us an email at reversepsychpod at gmail.com. For myself, for Ryan, and for Brad, fuck you. Whoa. Guys, he doesn't mean it. He still likes you, I think. I don't know. He's temperamental. For those of you who've seen the movie Bad Santa. Oh, sure. I'd like to show that. I don't have anything to say about Bad Santa. How about he just got a massive pain? It was in the ass. He's walking. Is Ryan a complete robot to you? Yeah, Ryan, you're robot mode. Really? Within the whole time? No, and just the last two minutes, and it's not stopping. The region. I'll cry. That came out of nowhere. Is that better? Keep talking. I'm not a robot. I can pass a CAPTCHA at any moment. Yeah, you're good. That was crazy.