Rooms with a View

Context outside the activity. Text: And we did a test. Preserved conversation context only. Reviewed full source context: Welcome to Reverse Psychology, the Fraser Rewatch podcast where we go backwards through every episode of the show. Tonight, we're covering Season 10, Episode 8, Rooms with a View, which originally aired on November 19th, 2002, in the year of Brad's Bar Mitzvah. Is this another Proctales-style clip show? We'll find out. I'm your host, Curtis Schack. Joining me, as always, is our resident upside downer, Ryan Sansom. Curtis, I am ready to talk Rooms with a Jew. I'm excited to be here. And with Brad. Clearly. Speaking of Brad, we also have with us today our marathon bar from the 80s. It's Bradley Kirkston. Curtis, thank you so much for that introduction and your height to get the show over, uh, undergoing. Over with? Did you say under-going? You know what I mean, peaches and cream. Now we're ready to rock in town all the way down to Oatown. Uh, Brad, whatever slew, whatever slew of drugs you're on, please keep taking them. We're gonna, we're gonna rock it out like Leonard Skinner in the 1970s. Let's do it. Specific? Brad, you didn't say the 80s. We're gonna be just like Duran Duran and we're hungry like the wolf. Um, try one more. Okay. Um, we're gonna be just like the Spice Girls and we're gonna spice up your life. Okay, now this is interesting because, uh, Brad, you were not here. I, I know you don't listen to this show, so you wouldn't know this. No. But, uh, when Hannah subbed in for you, she, we had a nice little Spice Girls talk. Okay. And we did a test. It was a borderline Spice Girls episode. It really was. It was all Spice Girls all the time.

Activity request: Before you take the test, what Spice Girl do you think you would be? Segment context: Unresolved: [['non game opening bit', 'independent informal self classification game'], [[33], [37], [38], [65], [66], [76], [77]], 'The enacted self-classification receives a mock verdict but precedes a test that is never administered. Independent game status is not discriminated.'] Reviewed full source context: So let's, let's ask you, Brad. Before you take the test, what Spice Girl do you think you would be? And what does Ziga Ziga mean to you? Okay, so here's the thing. Posh Spice, similar to me, is the most attractive. Not really. But Sporty Spice, similar to me, is very athletic. It's weird to explain when you're describing which Spice Girl you think you'd be to describe how attractive one is. That's a weird first salvo. I think it's also weird that he's basically going through a list to describe that all of them are like him. Well, here we go. Baby Spice is obviously like Batali. Like, done. That one's easy. Yeah, no one's questioning that. I keep moving. Which show am I missing? There's Origami Spice, that one? Yep, yep. The paper folding Spice Girl. Yeah, and Black Pepper Spice. That's right. But I would say the one I'm probably the most similar to is probably Sporty Spice. I got big hair. I am into sports. Yeah, I'll go with Sporty Spice. Incorrect. The answer is always Baby Spice. Always Baby Spice. Yeah, you missed it. I'm sitting right there for you. Yeah, yeah. Fair. That's fair. It was just so obvious that with Vitaly, it messed me up. Yeah. Fair. In fact, it turns out it's all of us, though. It's kind of like a Negan situation.

Context outside the activity. Segment type: episode discussion Activity request: Do you want to rank the three scenes we see here? Which one was your favorite? Result qualification: no ordered ranking enacted Reviewed full source context: Do we have any bits for the opening? What was this episode about? Death. So this is a fun fact that we should probably tell that we haven't brought up. As an affair friend group, I'm the one that makes the most death announcements. So when someone dies, that's my job. To let everyone else know. Usually celebrities. I won't even say A-level celebrities, because I definitely told you some B and C-level. A couple times some B-level celebrities. I don't know if you've ever done an A-level celebrity. It's very much like when you recap the guest stars of a Frasier episode and you leave out the big names, because no one knows why. Big name tonight. We'll catch you later. You say it's your job. Why? No one told you to do this. Certainly no one's paying you. Self-appointed. Self-appointed. If you're going to do it. You there, right? I just... I was going to finish my thought, but what's the point? Okay. If ever there was a metaphor for this opening. Yeah, right? You don't think the viewers are going to love to learn that Brad texts us when people die? I texted you guys when the queen died. That was weird. That one actually was weird. You texted that like a day before any of the articles on the web picked that up. You texted and we Googled and we're like, are you sure? Like literally no one's reported in those. That was weird. Yeah. I forgot about that. It literally took like eight hours before I started to see it on real newspapers. Yeah, I did have an insider on that one. That's true. I don't know what kind of Illuminati shit you're following. You're just like, yeah, the queen died. Was it a lucky guess? I read an article that's going to be out in the public in two hours. I'm like, Brad, I don't think so. No, I had an insider that time. Who could you possibly have? Him and Prince Charles hang out. It's probably Prince Andrew. I think Prince Andrew is the one I'm meant to say. I don't really know them that well. I watched one season of The Crown. I kind of forget that already. Unlike most of the world, I'm not that obsessed with the queen and all that business. And now the king, I guess. Even though he's male, I think they decided he, has to go by the title of queen. Makes sense. I mean, it just, it kind of fits Britain, right? Like you say, queen really comes off nice on the British tongue. They'd have to change too many placards. So they just thought economically it made sense to just make him a queen. Yeah, can't change a placard. Yeah, you just wanted to say the word placard on air. So that's why. Well, it's been a year and I haven't had a chance yet. All right, Curtis. The queen's dead, but Niles isn't. Shall we pivot into this episode? Let's do it. We open with a shooting star over Seattle. Niles is in hospital awaiting heart surgery. Daphne seems nervous. Marty is pretending it's not happening. Fraser is immersed in knowing every detail of the surgery. And Raw thinks about what they will do when this is all over. Their coping mechanisms are interrupted by a call from ex-wife Maris. So it turns out we're in the middle of at least a three-part storyline, maybe more. It's hard to tell, right? But it would be so great if in this episode there was no previous episode that indicated any of this was happening. Yeah. They kind of say that they didn't think anything was happening. So you have to kind of assume. I mean, obviously I'll preview it, but you have to assume he's going to eat cheese at the end and kind of, you know, die. I don't think there's going to be a big lead into it. At least for me, based on the last episode, I thought we would find out everything in this episode. I didn't even realize this could be a middle of something. It definitely matches Fraser's pacing. Like this isn't. Yeah. This isn't unusual. That's true. Like Curtis said, it would be amazing if we just, he eats the cheese two episodes from now and we actually do something like super weird next episode. You could see a world in which somebody is like, oh, I need a surgery and it's scheduled. So like four episodes ago, they found out the problem and they're finally getting around to the surgery happening. But this is clearly a much more urgent, immediate need. It's not just I need to get my pancreas removed. Is that a thing people do when they get that removed? I don't know. People do get their pancreas removed. Sounds dodgy. I've tried to perform the surgery. I'm not allowed to, but yes. How far did you get? Oh, I applied. I put an application. Applied? Like on pb.com? Was there an open spot or did you just like fill in the blank? Just like I'm looking for surgery work. No, they said looking for someone to take out my appendix. And I said, I got you. When did the pancreas get involved? Oh, pancreas. Sorry, pancreas. Let me redo the joke. It said looking for someone to remove my pancreas. And I said, yeah, I got that. He said, I only do appendices. Appendices. Sorry. So do you guys have a squash ballet? No. We've talked before about how we don't play squash. So... Why? That's not what I asked. Not what I asked. A lot of it actually happened on the episode Brad wasn't on. It's true. I missed one episode. Why didn't we get Hannah for this one? I don't know. I missed one episode. She'll understand what's going on. Brad's just lost in a hospital like usual. Can you imagine what it's like to be a guest on this podcast when Brad, somebody who's been on every episode except for one, is getting lost in our in-jokes and references to ourselves? I don't know how anybody we've ever invited makes it through an entire recording. I guess lost in his own in-jokes. It's fine. Yeah. No. I mean, we're not... Sometimes I start a joke and I'm like, I don't know how this is going to end. So... What do you mean sometimes? What do you mean joke? Can we get to this in? Because this is a long ass one, right? You should be thrilled. Yeah. This whole episode is very scene condensed. This is Brad's favorite scene. Five episodes. Not a lot of moving around. You love it because it feels like five episodes long? Sorry. Sorry. Let's redo that part. I love this scene. It has... I love this episode. It has five scenes in it. I'm a big fan of it. I'm not messing up words at all tonight. It's going to be a great episode. You're not a fucking mess. But there was a lot of good stuff. Like, right away, I love... I think it was Roz comes in and whispers. Why is he so pale? He's always this pale. Does it seem at all odd that Roz seems to be present in every, like, family event for Frasier? Like, I get that she knows these people well, but it's weird that she's spending as much time in the waiting room with her friend's brother. Her boss's brother. I don't think the waiting room's that weird. It's super weird when they're doing, like, their goodbyes to him. She doesn't even take a turn. Like, Marty goes and Frasier goes, and then she's just standing there. It's so weird. It's also weird to me that she never has her daughter with her. Like, she's always with the creators. Never with the daughter. That's a great point. I don't really believe she has a daughter. Neither do the writers. Yeah. So we get another wine that I really enjoyed. Who knew all those years of foie gras and brie would finally catch up with me? You know, Frasier, you might want to get yourself checked out. You eat a lot of that stuff, too. Well, yes, but I also drink a lot of red wine. Counter balance is the foie gras. Makes sense. As if Niles doesn't. We've never seen Niles drink wine. Does Sherry count as wine? Well, I mean, not the Sherry I drink. Love when Frasier hands out the pamphlets. It doesn't quite track with what we've seen with Frasier, but it is really funny. I get why you think it's funny. That part of the episode maybe bothered me the most. Not because it's a bad bit or because it's not realistic for Frasier to do. I just, they've written him to be annoying and it's effectively annoying. Like, I'm annoyed by Tess. I didn't enjoy it. It felt like they had to do it. They had to have him make these pamphlets to do the annoying factor. I think they did the right amount of jokes with it. Like, they didn't go over the top with the pamphlet. Because that could have gotten very annoying very fast. They really only had about one or two lines around it. I thought it played well. Maybe he does a pamphlet every season. I don't know. Maybe you guys are just over it. But it felt nice. It felt good to me. I don't know if I'm jumping ahead. I probably am. But throughout the episode, we do get the pamphlet reoccurring as a bit. And it seems as much used for comedy. You know, making fun of Frasier being oblivious and obnoxious. As it's used to sort of highlight the tension. Like, Roz or Marty will kind of go to Frasier and just kind of indicate like, Hey, man, like, give it a rest. Like, I-10 situation. We don't need your babbling. Yeah. So one of my favorite bits is he's going through the pamphlet. It was a little subtle. It was great. He started to talk about the credentials of the doctors that are going to be working on it. Oh, yeah. And I think it was the main doctor. He goes, and you know how I feel about Tulane Medical School. And literally everyone in the room is nodding. Absolutely. That is a great line. Now, how if I ever have a doctor and they went to Tulane Medical School, I'm going to be like, well, Frasier didn't like you. Now I'm going to start second guessing it. You should. How much of comedy is the reaction? You know, it's the straight man who's reacting to the, you know, crazy person. And I feel like the obvious approach to something like this would be for them to go, Tulane, what do you mean? Like, it's a perfectly fine school, like, to react to Frasier that way. But it's so much funnier that they're all just like, Yep, we don't want you to go on a rant. We just quietly accept it. We all know. We've all heard it. I love the idea that he says it like every day. Just, Tulane Medical School. You strike again. Also love how he's so mad when Marty's not there. I specifically use the layman's terms for him. Which is really funny because Roz is around. And she got a pamphlet. I don't know why she would know medical terms. Daphne, you could maybe understand. We still don't really get her job. Seems like she shouldn't understand it either. She's in a medical profession now. Yeah, she's around. No reason why Roz should. Well, Roz is a producer on a medical show. No, she isn't. Yes, she is. She's a producer on a vague entertainment show. I mean, you could kind of argue that she is, but it's one of those things that is at best technically correct. The best kind of correct. Thank you, Curtis, for always being on Team Brad. Appreciate it. The only time we see medical advice at all on the show is next episode when Niles talks about, through a couple of patients. That's about it. 100% of the times we're safe. You're not wrong. In fact, this is a season of Frasier at Work, and we still haven't really seen him provide services. We see Julia do some good work. Oh, yeah. About financials. Certainly not the medical. Why is Frasier so good at background checks? Or whatever. How does he have so much information about the medical community, at least? Even those, like, the nurses and stuff. This is pre-Wikipedia. Yeah. Yeah. He's a doctor. They don't just know each other, I don't think. Oh, no, no. If you come, we'll find out. You don't get sent, like, the big book of doctors that you can go through. Should I call Lawrence and find out? Is he a doctor? Friend of the show, Lawrence, is a doctor. A medical doctor. Oh, Canadian doctor, though. Does that count? Oh, you're right. Yeah. No, never mind. Sorry, Lawrence. And you know how I feel about Canada. Someone said that this wasn't a major event, or there's been no major heart event, which is very confusing. It doesn't seem like we actually had a heart attack here. But open heart surgery. We definitely need, yeah, a bypass or something, but whatever Frasier talks about. But it's even more confusing as to what we're going to see. Ryan, does this make you more excited for the episode before? No, I feel like they're going to do cheese real dirty. That I don't respect. And you're starting to get nervous about that. I'm getting real nervous about the cheese situation. Yeah. Yeah. Like, let them have a non-major heart event over, you know, running too hard or something funny. Don't go after cheese. Should we all invest in a nice fine cheese for next three subs? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I don't know which one I'm going to get. I'm going to get Fog Rock. And then I hope they just don't talk about cheese at all. By the way, Ryan, even as a joke, I don't think you should get Fog Rock because that is asking for us to get attacked by PETA. Oh, good. We'd have more listeners. Doesn't bother me one bit. If you don't know what Fog Rock is or however you pronounce it, don't Google it. It's one of the most horrifying Googles you'll ever Google. Up there with Tulane Medical School. I am nodding. You can't see it, but I'm nodding. This is one of the strangest things to me. Now, I don't know how things work pre-cell phone. I don't know. But they get a phone call in the hospital. I think it was a landline. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's a landline call. In the hospital to the room for Niles from Maris. Guess who? Maris? Who is his ex-wife who somehow just gets through to the room? Like, she both found out about it and got through. I find this fascinating. How did the world work? So, yeah, before that, we find out that Daphne and Niles were married only a couple of months ago, which is really surprising. Oh, yeah. I just assumed you were going to miss that hit. No, I'm on top of things, I guess. You are on top of things today. There's a lot. You know, we weren't jumping around scenes. It didn't throw me off. I got to really. It was also slow scenes because we're in the hospital. The things weren't rushing. It wasn't snappy. It would keep up. I did wonder at the end of this as he was getting sedated. I was like, is this it for Niles? Are we not going to see him the rest of the episode? Like, that felt really in play at this point. He does show up like 10 seconds from now, but still, it was where my head was at. Were you nervous knowing how much he adds to the show? Were you worried about having the rest of the cast have to carry the show without him? No, I was excited. I actually, I wish we would have done that. I had more time with the crew. You see what happens when they are together. It's bananas. I think we could have done that for the rest of the episode just fine. Frazier argues with the lowly Tulane-educated doctor about the procedure. Everyone. But Daphne is kicked out of the room. Niles remarks that hospitals are full of memories, setting up the next scene's storytelling device. Big guest star of this scene. Big guest star. Huge. I read the doc as a guy. It was the butler from the nanny. Let's not disrespect what we're talking about here. Yes, it's the butler from the nanny. The butler named Niles. Niles, did you remember my attaché? Yes, sir. And my carry-on? Always, sir. Oh, since we have everything. Back to what? Oops, I guess I did forget one old bag. Oh, Niles' doctor is Niles from the nanny. Oh, that's fine. Thank you. Thank you. I was hoping one of you was going to do that. I appreciate that. I don't. I've never seen the nanny. You've never seen the nanny? That's just a lie. You've seen every episode. I've never seen the nanny. I know you have. Why? I can't believe you've never seen the nanny. You've seen every episode, and I know this because everybody has. It's the nanny. I'm not the two of you and probably Brad's friend Hyken. I've never seen it. Well, I think every Jewish person has watched the nanny. I think there are people in distant countries where they don't speak English, and they have never seen any American culture. They've seen the nanny. You might be right. I've heard the laugh. That's all I got for you. I think that's actually a pretty good impression. Oh, you're talking about that show. Oh, no. I've never seen that show. Should I do the laugh again? Yeah, yeah. Do the laugh to clear things up for Curt. You've never seen that show? No. What were you thinking of? I was thinking of Seinfeld. Oh. Yeah, you're just getting your Jews confused. You're getting Jew-fused. I was Jew-confused. Confused. Yeah. Confused. I thought those words would go together well, and they do not. They don't go together at all. Real clash. Real clash in the mouth. I have seen Seinfeld, though. Seinfeld? Yeah. How do you pronounce it? The nanny. I love the doctor. I love how... Iman Niles. Dr. Niles. Not to be confused with Dr. Niles. I like how he doesn't take any of Frasier's shit, despite the fact that Frasier's from Harvard. Oh, before Harvard. He takes the first real big thing going on. I don't care what you read in Reeder's Digest. Yes. So great. I will say, something that he didn't use as a fool in his tool belt to big dog this doctor, Frasier is a psychiatrist. He went to medical school. Yeah. Don't forget it. That's pretty clear, right? Like, he definitely knows stuff about it. But I get what Curtis is saying. You forget about it sometimes. Because you don't... You think of him, like, like Sneha, you think of him more as, like, a psychologist. Like, he doesn't really do a lot of psychiatry, per se, in the show. Right. He's mostly doing therapy, talk therapy. Doesn't really do that either, but I get what you're kind of thinking about. They allude that he might do some of that sometimes. This is what he is by trade. How about that, Ryan? Would you take that for a win? I doubt it. Okay. Remains to be seen, Bradley. Remains to be seen. I feel you, fam. I'm picking up what you're putting down. I loved after that exchange. They start bickering. In my expert opinion, I'm doing what's best for this patient. And my expert opinion says otherwise. Well, if you're such an expert, maybe you should perform the surgery. Maybe I should. Dad. You're not operating on your brother. Oh, that's one of my favorite lines in this episode. It's so funny. It's delivered so well. I love their bickering. And he really does fall back into father of little kids in this episode, which I think is a great... I know you don't like Marty, but I think he does a good job in this one. This line is one of my favorite... I think this is probably my favorite Marty line so far. And he shoots about 50% in this episode. He's either really annoying or he's doing a very good job. I think that's fair. What do you think of his arc here where he's playing the part of dad who's pretending none of this is happening? Did you find that charming or annoying? What did you think? In this first scene, he's super annoying because he's not... I don't think they... I don't know if it's the actor or the writing, but I don't like the way that they did it here. And I don't think they set it up properly enough for the good stuff they do later with it. I really didn't think this was well done. Later. That's fair. Later changes. It felt... Yeah, it felt a little forced, I think. Forced. Exactly. It was very forced. A little hammy, a little campy. I think what made that okay for me is it feels less like Marty is protecting himself emotionally by doing this and more like he's putting it on for Niles. He's trying to be the goofy dad to distract Niles. Right. But they did like the cartoon dad way of doing that. Yes, they did. So didn't love it here. Yeah. Which is what made that line so surprising. It's like, he's being so annoying, but boom, here's a great Marty moment. Yeah. Then they get kicked out. This is a fun bit of business. Yeah. They should have got kicked out a long time ago. It is weird that we get kicked out and then like two minutes later or last, they're just like, come on back in. Yeah. It's not that weird because they do have to explain some stuff to Niles and the wife, but there's not a ton to explain. He's not going to go through all of Frazier's pamphlet to him. No. There was also no reason they all had to be in there to begin with. Like there was a lot of people at the start, so I didn't really believe that. Again, laws is the problem. Everyone else can be there before surgery. That makes sense. Yes. Frazier, very mad in this hallway, I guess. I know a thing or two about bypasses, which doesn't make any sense. I know. I know he went to medical school, but why do you specifically know a thing or two about bypasses? Yeah. I do like the Nitz idea that he just knows bypasses essentially and nothing else. That is like, Brad, if you actually were smart and could understand medicine and stuff, you would latch on to one weird thing like bypass. Yeah. I'm super into open heart surgery. I don't think it would be like liposuction. Well, you've proven my point. Yeah. Is your mate? I would just say random facts about liposuction all day. I'm kind of surprised you don't do that already. You're making it out like Frazier is specifically like the way he's got to hang up about Tulane. He's also got a thing about bypass surgery. I think it's just that a bypass surgery is going to happen. He's done a modicum of research, presumably at the library in 2002. And so he's just he he's a guy who thinks he knows everything. Like that's all it's not specific to the surgery. It's specific to a thing he's experiencing. And therefore, he knows everything he has to know about. Curtis, you are probably 100 percent right. But me and I are going to pretend like we're right. I'm 100 percent living in the world where Frazier is only interested, the only medical procedures he's up to date on is his open heart surgery. Thank you. Yep. Yeah. I'm on team right. Thank you, Bradley. When Marty was in the hospital for his heart thing. No. Frazier wasn't doing any of this. But it was that was faster. That happened much quicker, I think. Slight defense there. Frazier was the problem. He caused the issue. It's fair to assume. He was still in the clown outfit. Just the shoes, I think. No, he was in the full outfit. You're correct. So he was more off his game there. I think that's OK. And you're right. He didn't have extra time to prepare, which we have to assume is at least a day, I guess, to prepare a whole pamphlet. Well, he had to at least go to the Kinkos. Well, in the library. I loved Kinkos. Kinkos was great. OK. Sorry, I just have to say it. With every room Niles passes down the hospital hall, he recalls a memory. A broken leg with Marty offering him an Archie. Maris recovering from plastic surgery. And just moments ago, when Daphne promised to be there when he wakes up. You did brush past like kind of the impetus of the episode, though. Go on. Where as Niles is fading out, he does the whole, do you think a hospital has memories, Lyme? And that's what leads into this stupid bit. I mean, we didn't discuss it ad nauseum like we normally do, but I did absolutely mention that that is a thing in my introduction to the previous scene. That was like 10 minutes ago. Classic Ryan is back with us. So what did you guys think of this? I was watching with my mother-in-law, who has seen only a cut. She's only here when my daughter is sick. So she's a full-time living with you. She's seen more episodes than you'd hope. I'll tell you that. She's watching. She's got this weird look in her eye. And I'm just like, this is the weird episode. She goes, yeah, this is a weird episode. Do you want to rank the three scenes we see here? Which one was your favorite? Me? I guess I probably should go first. I didn't get what was happening. I didn't realize that that was actually young Marty at first. I thought we were just seeing random people in the hospital. Okay. That's a random person that's just got Marty's voice. It's like, oh, that's very clearly Niles. And oh, they're close to seeing Maris. So like that was disappointing. And then it's like, oh, now we're just seeing him. Okay. I don't know. This is super bizarre. Most of what I was focused on was the weird camera angle that we haven't had, I think, before. We're doing like the gurney shot. Yeah. The way that the camera kind of sways into the room and then back out. Yeah. Following Niles the whole way. From Niles's perspective. It felt really scrubs-y. Well, I mean, this would have been in the scrubs era. So maybe there was some inspiration there. But yeah, all in all, I just felt it was weird. I didn't really pass judgment of whether it was good or bad. It was just very, very different for Frasier. I actually liked it until the last one. I was like, why didn't they just show us something we saw 34 seconds ago? It did feel like a non-value add. I kind of get what they were doing with it, that this is one of those life events. This is one of those important moments. But they only gave us two very brief scenes before it. So the whole concept that you kind of live your whole life in a hospital kind of falls apart when it's like he's been there three times his whole life. Maybe there's a canonical reason, but it does feel like they could have just done birth right there. Like Marty's seen Nazca birth or something. Feels like the easy one. I think I agree, too. I also genuinely didn't remember going into this episode. I remembered the concept that they kind of flashbacked. I couldn't remember if it was a literal clip show in this one or if it was what it turned out to be, which is where they just kind of recreated moments, presumably from the past. I remember it being more meaningful than it kind of turned out to be, at least in this scene. It is. It is not meaningful at all. Yeah. No. It is very non-consequential. It's like, oh, he's on a fun drug trip. That's kind of it. Pretty much. Yeah. At the end of it, I found myself saying, well, what am I supposed to do with that? Yeah. It definitely feels, both in the way it's directed and in the writing of it, it feels like it's supposed to be this super deep, meaningful, emotional roller coaster of a thing. But I don't think they stuck the landing. Here's my question for you. Do you think we're saying this because we know what happens? We know he survives. We know what's happening. That is interesting. Do you think that it's affecting our judgment a little bit? Yeah. Because if you're going into it thinking he could actually, you don't think he's going to die. There's no way you think in episode eight of season 10 he's going to die. No, no. Time out. Time out. Or thinking that there's actually going to be ramifications more than just one episode longer. Right. Right. You might be thinking this is the beginning of an arc. Or if he goes into a coma or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's no way. Well, I don't know. How about when you were watching it forward way around? Did you think there was any chance that anything significant would happen? I'm going to be honest. I don't remember. But I'm asked. That's a Mr. Brad. Well, that's okay. But I need to interject because I have to say that the idea that they finish this season with him just in a coma. If we could get like no talking from Niles, but still get face acting out of him. I feel like it might work. No, because I watched too much sitcoms and I knew nothing bad was actually going to happen. Yeah. I mean, that's fair. There was almost no chance. It was pretty low stakes. If they had done this in like episode 23 or 24, maybe you could have thought there was stakes. If someone asked me, do I think this could be more than an episode arc? I would probably say, yeah, we might actually have ramifications from this. But I don't think you'd have guessed more than two or three though, right? I don't know. Not in episode eight. That'd be crazy. Plus, I think they're really trying to set up for the ending scene, which I don't think they do a very good setup job for that one. And then we know that it doesn't come to fruition. So it's really weird in the upside down space. Yeah, that is very true. I mean, upside down, we have absolute confident knowledge. What we see at the end of this episode is just a fantasy. It is not a glimpse of the future. Which kind of takes away from this scene even more, where you're just like, okay, we can just throw out everything that happened here. Yeah. Shame. We get a title card, but waiting is the hardest part. In the waiting room, Marty wants a chunky from the vending machine, but needs change. Roz tries and fails to get some. When Marty finally gets the change, the machine eats it. Daphne, thinking quickly, uses a fire extinguisher to break in. Herself finally breaking down, panicked about the scary situation. So this was a long scene. It was. These are all really long descriptions I have to read. Correct. It's so hard to describe these scenes briefly. It's also hard to know where to jump in and talk, like, what's the first thing you want to talk about this scene? Because there's just so much that happens. Well, what I was going to say is there's so much that happens, but also nothing happens all at the same time. Whoa. I'm throwing a flag. Maybe in the first scene. This one, way false. What are you talking about? Yeah. There's nothing that was surprising. I don't know. I'll let you guys talk. Because I was just like, blah. Nothing that was surprising? Blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, yeah. People talked in the sitcom, Brad. That is a problem. Wait. You're going to have to deal with that sometimes. I think the scene actually does a more successful job than the rest of the episode in that it is just people waiting. It is just them talking. There's nothing to do. It kind of does a good job of recreating what it's like to be in a waiting room. But it also does have a lot, both for the characters and the plot, that happens. Yeah. A hundred. A hundred percent. I think they do. They do. The crazy bits and the sentimental bits really went all throughout this whole, this whole super long scene. Sorry. Sorry. I'm just a hater. Well, you probably fell asleep halfway through and woke up and you're like, why is this still? Why is it still? Why am I not two scenes later from now? I think as someone who constantly complains about two fast scene switching, this is a real affront to everything you've said so far. You should really enjoy this episode. It is really upsetting, actually. I'm not saying I don't like the episode. I'm just saying the scene is fine. It's fine. This is the cornerstone scene of the episode. If you're saying this is fine, I'm going to be very confused when you give this an A++. A++. First off, it's like getting an A++ spoiler alert. Because that can't happen, Curt. No one can give an A. What are you talking about? I'm giving some A minuses, but just like they say in the scene- That proves my point. Yeah, A minus, not an A. Oh, that's true. I get what you're saying up there. This scene has one of my favorite phrases of something I describe my life as. When they say it's the tapestry of life, that's me. I'm the tapestry of life. What do you think a joke is, Brad? Just like that now is good. I don't know what to do with that. We jump in with think right away. Marty goes over and looks at the magazine rack, right? Yeah. He's like, why is this only stuff for girls? And then he's flipping through. There's 10 ways to please a man. Everyone knows there's only four ways. Did he list out the four ways? I don't recall. No, he didn't. He didn't list out the four. We just don't know.

Context outside the activity. Text: And then, okay, so second bit of Upside Down Sleuth. Segment context: episode observations without a new game Reviewed full source context: There's some real sleuthing to be done here. When they do the flashback bit, we learn that Frasier is probably like five years older than Niles when they do the baby one. Just judging on how he reacts. Is that good? It's funny. You said five. I was thinking more four and a half. I was thinking like three. He's pretty. I mean, I got a three-year-old right now. He looked a little more with it. You know, she's pretty smart. Pretty good whip. But yeah. I was going to say, I'm pretty sure you just said your three-year-old's not with it. Well, there's three. You're not supposed to be. Because we meet very, very young Frasier. I would put him in the four, probably the five, maybe even six range. You'd know better than me because you have one baby and another on the way. Right. So we're pretty much up to date on what a three-year-old would look like and do. And then, okay, so second bit of Upside Down Sleuth. And we find out there's probably a Best of Crane segment on the radio show. I don't think this will ever actually show up in the episodes, but it's good to know like in the Frasier lore that he has segments. I'm not going to make any comments about this. I know. How about Roz like making jokes about how bad the show is? Her hating on Frasier's show, which she produces, is a delight. Today's Best of Crane, which is being broadcast over the airwaves right this moment. Oh, yeah, they're piping it into the operating room instead of using anesthesia. So funny, so weird. The jokes were great and probably accurate and so confusing. I don't think you can make that to your boss who's the star of the show. Especially when you're interloping on his family moment for no reason. I know that they all make mention of her being part of the family for no reason and she shouldn't be and isn't. Whatever. Whatever. But like you still could go off on how bad the show is that you help make. You know what's interesting about the Upside Down? So if you watch from the first episode of the show, it is possible. I'm not saying this is the case because I honestly don't remember. But it is possible that as you get to know the character of Roz and her interactions with the family, she might at this late in the show naturally feel to you like a member of the family because she's always around them or whatever. But coming from the Upside Down, we don't really get enough interaction. Like occasionally she has a moment with Marty where she kind of commiserates with him. And she obviously has kind of a relationship with Frasier. But we don't really get enough character moments between the two of her and the rest of the family to indicate when it's time to be at the hospital, she's going to be one of the people's hair. Other than getting Niles weed, she almost never interacts with Niles. They argue with each other. She saves him when he was naked. That is true. That is true. It felt weird though too when that happened. It's like why is Roz the one rescuing Niles? With speaking of Roz, I really, I don't even know why because the flashbacks mostly don't do much of anything other than add color to the episode. But for some reason, I really enjoyed her little bit as like a scared new mom who doesn't know what's on her baby, you know, what the rash is. And it turns out it's just her own lipstick. That was done very well. Yes. Brian, you've got to tell me that you relate to that. It's a very tired parent who's confused. I've never kissed my baby with lipstick on, so I haven't had that issue. It is relatable. I mean, you definitely, we have a very good like call after our system. That line has been rung for many an issue that were not medical issues, turns out. No reason to rush to a hospital, but I could definitely see how you could get there very quickly. Yeah. It was really interesting.

Action: Oh, it's I'm on Paramount Plus right this second. I'm going to give you the play by play. I'm watching it over and over and over again. Claim: The whole point is she remembered. She is clearly looking at the name. Activity request: Post on social media. Let everyone vote on it. Result qualification: disputed interpretation without shared resolution proposed vote not enacted in source Reviewed full source context: The old like, I never forget a name and then she doesn't. Yeah. That's a weird way to prove that. It was a funny reverse order too, like how they did it. It's just such an interesting moment that she makes the point of saying as young mother Roz, I'm going to remember you nurse. And when she sees the nurse again in this moment, she just has no clue who she might be. Yeah. What do you mean? She says her name. What? She walks up to the nurse and says her name. Like that's how the interaction starts. No, because the name's under. I thought that was a name tag situation. Yeah, it was a name tag. No. The whole point is she remembered. No, it isn't. Because it was a panic moment. A hundred percent. Go back and watch it. She goes, hey, Colleen. And Colleen's just like, yeah, I'm doing my job. I don't think you're right, Ryde. Oh, it's I'm on Paramount Plus right this second. Okay. So here's what happened. Do you actually have it up? I'm going to give you the play by play. Roz has a dollar. She goes up. She looks at the name tag. There is a name tag on the nurse's uniform. She doesn't like bend over. I'm telling you, the way she tilts her head and squints in the direction of like her eye light is where the name tag would be. She is clearly looking at the name. You're full of shit. Wondering what the name is. Thank you. That is the point. Thank you. That's not the point of the scene. Also, I will say, if that is the point of the scene, which it isn't, you're idiots. There's no way she actually would remember if she was so panicked. She would have been so relieved to find out that that baby was okay. And then she would leave because that's what happened. Thank you for proving our point. We appreciate it. I mean, you're both wrong. Clearly what they were doing. But there's also no chance that she would ever remember it. I'm watching it over and over and over again. Post on social media. Let everyone vote on it. The way she tilts her head, it's literally, she's got a direct eyeline of the nurse. She can just look straight on at the nurse. She tilts her head. The only thing she could be tilting is to get a look at her chest. And unless she's just horny, I think she is trying to see the name tag. Hospitals make people horny, Curt. Horny hospitals. It is a thing. Memory argument speaker: Ryan Replay narrator: Ryan

Context outside the activity. Activity request: You guys want to do a musical episode next episode? Result qualification: future episode proposal Reviewed full source context: We see another version of... The older kids. The older kids. And Trazier is at fault for the injury and makes Niles sign a contract. They're paying off the I wasn't pushed, I jumped moment. Yeah. Which we didn't talk about, but it's fine. Because I had the question of what the fuck an opera cape is. That was okay. The other thing that we see, and I think this is right before he goes to get change and come back and get into that chunky machine. We see him get his wife's diagnosis of the cancer. That was really sad and not needed. It was too much of an emotional hit for no real payoff. Like it kind of explained his bits. The only payoff is that the hospital is scary, essentially. Yeah, but like we could work that. I don't think we needed to see that moment. I agree. You know, I think it's kind of interesting that Frazier's mother doesn't get any kind of an appearance here. We see the hospital room in which Niles is born. The mother always sees like her legs lying down. We have this scene where she would presumably, like why isn't she getting the news that she has cancer? Why does her husband get the news for her? Like it's very strange that. And so it's interesting that they just didn't hire an actress to just play his mom for this. Oh, yeah, I guess I was going to say spoiler alert. We don't technically know that she didn't make it to the start of the series. I'm trying to remember which Marty we actually saw, if it was younger Marty or not. I don't think technically I know that she should be dead. Wait, what? I'm saying technically there could be, she could have been in season one. Right, right, right. But she's still. Which means you wouldn't hire an actress. You would have to get that actress back. Oh, I guess she'd be younger. No, no, she can't be younger. That'd be the whole point. If it happened in season one, she would have to be the same actress. Right, I wasn't saying hire an actress. I was intentionally being vague because I can't reveal things. Oh, I thought you weren't being vague. Even if they had to use an actress, they'd have to hire them. They'd have to rehire this one. And also, I've got the episode open. I think I'm wrong. I think that happens after the Chunky incident. So whatever. Well, I think there's two Chunky bits. So he goes over and sees a Chunky and gets excited, which I think is actually for us a callback. In a former episode, I think Marty goes on a rant about Chunky bars. I think. All right. Chunky part two? No, I like when Frazier's up looking at the vending machine. I know what you're going to say. He's looking at it. He goes, oh, Chunky bar. What are they asking for it? It's a very fun way to interact with a vending machine. Oh, I thought you were going to say how Roz says, why did Chunky get his hands stuck? Oh, yeah. Obviously, I love that. But I did think, though, that Chunky was going to get his hands stuck after that. And I was a little disappointed he pulled it out, no problem. Also, Curtis, that's the second Chunky bit. Are we still on the first Chunky bit? We were still on the first Chunky bit. Oh, my God. Maybe I was wrong. Maybe the five scene episodes are not the best. Maybe I'm wrong. They're a nightmare. They're the worst scenes. It's so long. It's so long. This is a great scene. There's a lot that happens. It's good. It's just hard to break down and discuss. All right. Back to Chunky part two. This is where Chunky gets his thing gets stuck. Obviously, it was going to get stuck, right? As soon as he starts to buy it, you know it's not coming down without some issue. Didn't expect how we get it out of the machine. Thought Frazier was going to start rocking the boat. That is not what happens. Yeah. Daphne fully loses it. What do you mean? She goes up. When a candy bar gets stuck that I've paid at least 70 cents worth. I don't remember if they said the actual price. 85. 85. 85 cents. Because they do actually talk about the dollar exchange for a long time. You're right. I think it's very reasonable to grab a fire extinguisher and destroy the fucking machine. So she does this. Immediately secure. Well, it's kind of weird. Okay. We see a nurse. This is a really confusing thing that happens. Yes. The nurse calls somebody. And then seemingly, I'm going to say an orderly comes by. An orderly definitely shows up, which makes no sense. And he says, do I need to call security? I'm like, why are you asking the perpetrators? I don't think he says security. I think he just says, do I have to kick you out? Or do I have to call someone? I think he says do I have to call someone. I think he's like, I think he was going to, like, he's got his hands on his hips at that point. Like, he's about to throw them out of the hospital. And then they're like, no, it's cool. And he's like, all right. Well, then I'm going to clean it up because I'm the janitor. The best part of this, by the way, is when Marty is part, like, there's like, we're going to pay for this. Like, we're really sorry. Like, you know, we're going to make this right. But Marty chimes in with, and I already paid for this candy bar, this 85 cent candy bar. So don't arrest me. Again, tell him this to the janitor, though. It's fine. If they raid the whole vending machine, the janitor does not have any difference for his day. I was really hoping that Daphne was just going to go on. I was hoping that she hadn't calmed down from that because I don't know. When you're in that emotional state, I don't know if breaking a vending machine with a fire extinguisher is the thing to do. I don't know if that calms you down instantly, but it seems to have worked for her, which is disappointing. I was kind of hoping she would bring a page. Well, I think she spends the whole episode a little bit bottled up. She's not really, like, you can see on her face that she's distraught, that she's freaked out. Everybody's kind of tiptoeing around her. She does a great job this episode. The actress. And Jane Leaves? Is that her? Jane Leaves does an amazing job. But... Again, you stole my thunder because I usually say actresses, actresses, but whatever. I'll give it to you. I don't think you were going to. You never say it about the actual cast. Anyway, my point is simply that I think in that moment, all the bottling up she was doing breaks. She snaps. And then once she snaps and releases it, that's when she's able to sort of let go and break down. Yeah, it makes tons of sense. I just wish she had a longer snap period. It was a very brief moment where she just calmly walks over to the vending machine, goes to town on it, and then calmly leaves. Well, I think that's what makes it so unsettling. She's not just freaking out wildly. She just has one little violent outburst. Not really at anybody, just at a inanimate object. And then just kind of explains... He's my husband, and he's on a table with his chest cut open. I'm sorry if I can't handle this as well as the rest of you, but I'm terrified. Daphne, it's okay. Just calm down. When all this is over, we're just gonna... There is no when this is over. There's no tomorrow, no next week, no next year. There's nothing until he comes out of there, and I know he's okay. And that's why the janitor didn't kick her out, as per his normal rolling duties. Daphne goes over, in fact, I think to the magazine rack for some reason. And Marty goes over and does the most awkward arm pat I've ever seen to console her. It's like, everything will be fine. And he's holding her at like... He's got like four feet for Jesus between her, and doing this super weird just getting her right at the bow of the elbow. Which is even weirder when you consider how she touches him on a daily basis. Like her job is to touch him. We don't know if it's a daily basis. We have no idea what daily basis is. Okay, that's true. We have to assume that it's biannually at this point. But yeah, I have to assume that she has in her contract that Marty can't touch me much. It's not reciprocal. She can touch him. He cannot touch her. That's true. So I found it more unsettling than the vending machine, Greg. What's interesting here is like you get this moment where Marty is doing a relatively good job of sort of helping her get through this moment of fear and anger. But he's also not doing a great job. Like he does what he can, but it's important. Like he doesn't like solve all the problem. He doesn't like make it all better. He just kind of muddles through, which is what would happen in that situation. You would kind of be awkward and uncomfortable and not really know what to say. Minus the arm pad. I actually think this is one of Marty's stronger sentimental moments. Like I think he does a very good job after being an idiot the whole episode. Like he does a very good job handling her at a time when she really needs it. And it's after this, I believe, you know, we get the moment where he gets the news that his wife has cancer. She doesn't need it. Right. But he he finds it right. Right. And then one, I think like you said, Brad, they don't do anything with it. I'm like, you're just explaining why he's being annoying as piss. But like we can assume that I don't like I don't need to know that she got cancer here. That's fine. Whatever. It's fair to assume that he's had trauma in a hospital. I think it's a little weird that you think explaining why he is got like a connection to trauma in the hospital, like making that connection for us and showing us that that you don't need. But you think because Roz says a name that that means something because she learned the name earlier in her life. That's even more confusing than why you include that. But then they don't do it. That's just that ends that that rap for Marty. That's kind of the last last he really does. I think even the episode. And I don't know. It was fine. I guess you're right. I guess they told a good story. I guess they told a coherent story. You also really enjoy shitting on Marty. So it's hard to really know. I don't like Marty. And he had a 50% good episode. So then the doctors come in. Yeah. So they do the quick bit where the second doctor, not the Tulane doctor comes in, but the other one. Pretty sure it's a nurse, but they call her a doctor. It's the Sue Doctor. For some reason on the episode. The what? I tried really hard to make a joke about a Sue ship and it did not work. It fell flat. Yeah. I thought you were saying it's the one who gets sued. Yeah. No. Yeah. It's the assistant doctor. Which, again, I don't really think is a thing, but whatever. She comes in and explains the situation and then Fraser starts asking questions and she goes, Oh, well, I was told about you. And he's like, Aha! She's like, Can I say questions? I was supposed to do this. And then she turns around and leaves. I actually liked that bit. I kind of liked it. It was fine. It was a tension breaker to end the scene. To end a very long, emotional scene. Long, emotional. Have you become my Echo? I just alluded to her to feel supported, buddy. Hmm. Just like Marty's awkward elbow pat, I did not feel that. Post-surgery, Niles is still asleep and Daphne, encouraged to eat. She walks down the hall, passing a room showing a possible future where she has delivered her second child. Fake news. Fake news, Curt. Brian, this is a big scene for you to be able to prove everyone wrong. Tell the truth. This is one of those super fun upside down moments where you're just like, this whole thing's nonsense. I can now throw out the rest of the episode because this bullshit didn't happen. They're implying that this will be their future, but we know that isn't what happens. Uh-huh. It's also weird. Like, at this point, you kind of have to think they planned roughly what was going to happen. And if they hadn't, there's no reason why you don't just have a girl at the end of the series. It's very strange. The one thing I will say, it's my understanding that throughout the years, some of the early, you know, writers of the show left to do other things. I believe some of the big early season Frasier writers came back for season 11. And I think basically they kind of looked at what had been done in season 10 and were like, that sucked. Let's kill this Julia bit and start over with something better. And so I think it's very likely that the people writing the show at the end of the series had not seen this episode, did not know it existed. Yeah. Yeah. You want to say it's kind of like lazy writing to not just have it be a girl at the end. There's absolutely no reason in the world not for it to be a girl. So now canonically, we have to assume that this is just Daphne is starving. She just can't. Now that the tough moments have passed, she needs to get her wits about her, but she's like delusional. And she just imagines a dream scenario, which again, just kind of undercuts all of the Niles stuff from earlier. But like, I guess that's what we have to go with. We enter into this world of flashbacks through a delirious morphine ridden Niles. And we leave this storytelling device with Daphne being tired, emotionally wrought. And like you said, really hungry. Like she's clearly also hallucinating. So what the fuck was going on with Marty and Roz and Frasier? What were they on? Yeah, that's fair. I don't know. Frasier uses his medical pad to just give everybody some psychedelics for the day. Help them through. Frasier plays this out with Niles laughing at an Archie Connick. He asks for morph morphine to enjoy the John T. Connick. That was funny. That was a funny use of drugs. Of medically safe drugs. I like that they addressed, like when they first introduced it, it's like, oh, that's funny. I wouldn't have pegged Niles for like an Archie Connick's boy. But then they explain that like Marty's pushing this on him when he's a kid. He doesn't actually like it. He's just like, you know, humoring his dad. And it's fun to kind of bring that back full circle with him here, needing to literally be high to enjoy this thing. Yeah. If you look at the prop comedy from this episode versus last, so much better than the punching the clown moment that we had. Like this is the way to do prop comedy. Totally. Yeah. And now that we've seen the tough selling scrambled eggs bit, we know that this is an episode. Break it down for us, Bradley. It's a really big episode, but we don't see the coffee shop. No Cafe Nervosa. No Frasier's apartment. No work. First episode we haven't seen both Frasier's apartment and Cafe Nervosa, I think. Correct. Or no, the work. Curtis is right. Many of episodes, many of episodes, Ruth didn't go to work. I would say that's the third most popular place. And they didn't go to all three. Sure. The only set that we get this entire episode that might have been seen before is, you know, the sperm. Right. Right. You actually handled yourself much better than I expected. Yeah. I really, in fact, I'm a little disappointed. You've built up this whole bit of you loving the coffee shop, being anxious when it's not there. You just kind of accepted it. You should be grabbing a fire extinguisher and breaking a machine of some kind. Probably your laptop because you don't know how to use it. Let me tell you the situation I'm in right now. Let me speak from the heart. I don't have the opportunity to sing my song. So instead of being bitter, instead of being upset about it, which I am, which I am, I'm just going to wait. And then when we do have another Cafe Nervosa episode, you will get to hear such a wonderful song that really will bring together the community. So I'm excited to focus on the positives that we're going to have other opportunities for you to sing. Everything about this shit, instead of blowing up and blowing a fuse and being obnoxious and being mad and at least being fun, you're just going to promise to make us fit through more singing next episode. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Stop saying it like the negative. It is like, it is kind of an attack on our person's skirt, but I don't, it's not what we're going for. We say it as a positive. We get the opportunity. You're threatening us with future music. I'm not threatening. I'm giving you an opportunity to hear future music. Again, you're just focusing on the negatives and not the positive. The positives are my beautiful singing voice in all of America getting listening to. And Curtis was to sing Angry Brad. I'm angry, Brad. I'm a robot. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Why do you always make robots mad? Because they're going to take over the world? Literally, the point of robots is that they don't get mad. They just stay even killed. Well, I'm a robot. I get mad all the time. What? What do you mean you're a robot? Okay, fine. Spoiler alert. I'm not actually a robot. I'm going to react to what Brad did. Like, my disappointment in Brad not freaking out. I guess next episode, I'm just going to have to sing about it. Thank you. Thank you. You guys want to do a musical episode next episode? Yes. I could be down for that. That's what I'm talking about. I don't think we've charged with the listeners enough. Let's do a musical. Yeah.

Activity description: Well, Brad, did you like this coffee shop free episode? And on that note, Curtis, what did you think of this episode? Ryan, what about you? Competition adjudication competition established: False Reviewed full source context: Well, Brad, did you like this coffee shop free episode? Yeah. See, Banks McGee. My opinion of this episode changed about 40,000 times listening to us talk tonight. I feel like Ryan, because that's what you always do. I really liked it. Well, I hadn't seen the episode before. No, just like how you always say after listening to everybody, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I feel like there were some funny bits. I feel like it was sentimental. There were definitely times that it was too sentimental, and it was unnecessarily sentimental. But all in all, I liked it. Do I think the scenes were a little long? I do think the scenes were a little long. That's insane. That's insane. Do I usually complain about having too many scenes? I do. Do I usually just complain about everything? I do. Am I going to continue to do this bit? I will. What bit? I don't even know what the bit is now. I'm confused. You've described your personality. Are you saying your personality's a bit? It would be very comforting if that is the case. She is true. My final score of this episode, after talking to the Council of Brads, the final score is a B-. Are you going to tell us any other Brads on the Council tonight? Yes. The second Brad that I will announce, Bradley Cooper is the second Bradley. Two Bradleys that are very similar looking, Bradley Kirkston, Bradley Cooper. He's Bradley Cooper. You're just Brad. Well, no comment. Wait, wait, wait. Bradley Cooper is who you said last week, correct? Yeah. No, Brad Pitt. I thought I said Brad Pitt. You said Bradley Cooper. Oop, messed up that bit already. And on that note, Curtis, what did you think of this episode? Ryan, do you think that he is just doing a new bit every night and it turns out it's the same bit because he forgot that he already did it? Yeah. Yeah, I think so. This one for me is eight out of 40. Whoa. So this is pretty high. I thought you were using my scale for a second. That was like, okay, eight, baby. Eight out of 40. I can't. Unlike you, they're not just random numbers out of 10. And I can't just like talking through this episode. I think I like it less. Like you did talk me down. I think I thought of it as a peak episode, like a really great episode. And as we discussed, I was like, I don't know. It's not that maybe it's not that good. But compared to Guns and Neurosis, the Lilith episode, her final episode, I think this is a little bit better than that, but I don't think it's as good as the other hospital episode, Boo with the Clown. Oh, Boo's 7. Okay. Yeah. It's not really that funny. It's much more emotional. But I did, I was affected by the story. I was affected by the performances. I thought it was a really nice job. A departure from what the show normally does. But I thought they did a good job with it. Ryan, what about you? I don't think they hit the sentimental notes that well. They were there. Some of them were good. Some of them were bad. It was fine. I loved the pacing, the slowness. We really felt like we were in a hospital, which is actually really good literary devices they use, like using long scenes, not making them a joke a minute, really feeling like the struggles of these characters. So even when it wasn't necessarily funny or necessarily sentimental, you still just felt the tension of waiting in a hospital. Like if I didn't know what was going to happen, you could very easily have talked me into this being Niles' last episode. It would have been a kind of a fun way to do that. It would be hilarious if from the upside down, we tried to convince you this was Niles' last episode. Yeah, right? I ripped the bananas. And there was funny moments. No, it's just, it's ghost Niles. All the other episodes, it's ghost Niles. I'm not, I mean, I wouldn't rule that out. We'll see how he is pre-cheese event. But it doesn't seem likely. It does seem like you made it through just fine. But yeah, I thought the plottingness of this episode was good. It was a different Brazier episode than we normally see. I liked it a lot. It definitely wasn't peak funny. So you have to mark it down for that. But I am going to give it like an 8.5. Ooh, that's pretty high for you. Good storytelling. It was good storytelling. Again, even when the sentimental bits don't land, it's just the way that they structure this episode that you just feel like you're there for a long time in a painful way. And you should. You're a major character's under the knife. And especially given that you can assume he's going to live. Like his death, that's never really on the table. Right. So you have to, you're not going to feel it unless you believe the characters think. You know it's not going to happen. But so the writers can't get you emotional about Niles. You're emotional reacting to how these characters think Niles could die. I think if this was the end of the season, like back two episodes, I think you could make this at like a 9, 9.5. You could really believe that he was going to be toast at the end of this. Sure. If they move it later in the season. All they have to do, right? Yeah. And that's fine. That's fine. It's fine to have it here. I don't, I wish it would have. I wish it had a master plan shortly after this episode. They had a brand new character, an exciting actress that's coming on the show. Her name is Julia. You know what? The Grim Reaper shows up. Interesting. Ha.

Title: Death or No Death Central premise: Unlike Niles, I am immortal. However, if I was going to die, what might succeed at killing me? Activity description: Tonight, I'll find out as Ryan and Brad offer me things to try. Interaction mode: fictional choice and narrated outcome Rules: initial: You have a chance to win four amazing prizes and experiences. The only catch, the two red herrings, or as we call them, dead herrings. Because if you pick them, they'll kill you. They're pictures that look great, but they will kill you.; later selection constraint: You're not allowed to pick by number anymore. You're allowed to pick by experience or name.; late explanation: You knew that both Brad and I have earned one death each, right? Winner statement: You won death or no death. Reviewed full source context: Niles faces death in this one. Unlike Niles, I am immortal. However, if I was going to die, what might succeed at killing me? Tonight, I'll find out as Ryan and Brad offer me things to try. Some of which are fatal. Brad and Ryan. Welcome to another edition of Death or No Death. Tonight, we're giving away more prize and experience than ever before. Maybe. Wink? Helping me tonight is the bonafide BJK. BJ, come on out. Hey, when was the first time we did this? That'll be in like season four. Okay. Next time we have a death episode. All right, cool. Hey, everyone. Thank you for having me. You ready to change some lucky contestant's life? I am. I am ready. Would you say you're dying of anticipation? I'm dying hard. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Well, tonight's lucky contestant hailing from the tire city. No, not the city of Akron. Just some dodgy car shop down the street. Please help me in welcoming Curtis. No shucks on the beach. Shuck. Woo! Oh, yeah. All right. Do that. Can you do that? Woo again? It was off mic. Yeah, it was off mic. Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Oh, Curtis. Welcome, welcome. Are you excited to be here? I am fucking stoked. Great. Uh, BG, you forgot to welcome our guest. Curtis, I'd like to welcome you to the show. Thank you for welcoming me. Unprompted. Thank you for having me. What? What do you mean? He's not having you. He's on our game show. To be absolutely clear, to everybody listening, I am not having Brad. Thank you for having me as your cool uncle for this game show. Even worse. You've made it even worse. All right. Let's stop beating around the bush. BJ, bring out our hunks for tonight. Hunks? Hunk number one, from Calgary. Hunk number two, from Switzerland. Hunk number three, Kazakhstan. Okay, not from Kazakhstan. Just Kazakhstan is the hunk. There's six, remember. Oh, fourth hunk, Bulgaria. Fifth hunk, France. Six hunk comes to us from the country of Cuba. Thank you, BJ. I'm so confused as to what this bit is. Curtis, as you can see, we have six enticing hunks and they have six even more enticing briefcases. The type of briefcase. Oh, because of deal or no deal. No, it's death or no death. I thought you're going to give me hunks from different countries to choose from and I would have to choose the hunks and one of them would murder me. Kind of. I mean, that is actually what will happen. You described it really well. But no, we have six enticing hunks and they have six even more enticing briefcases. The type of briefcases you might expect to see in a drug deal. But instead of cash tonight, they have amazing prizes and experiences. Instead of the usual numbered briefcase that you might be expecting, they have pictures illustrating what you can expect to win. You have a chance to win four amazing prizes and experiences. That's right for something we've never done before. The only catch, the two red herrings, or as we call them, dead herrings. Because if you pick them, they'll kill you. They'll kill you dead. No, these also pictures of things that would kill me? No, no. They're pictures that look great, but they will kill you. So, Curtis, we're about to tell you what you can win as we go through them. Would you like to know the names of the hunks you'll be selecting? Sure. Sure. Great. Very romantic. Nice. Romantic. What? BJ, can you help tell me what's on the first briefcase? The first briefcase says Jerry Springer. And the name of your hunk? Jose. I thought Jerry Springer was the name of the hunk. I was really excited. I thought it was two. I thought it was two. So, to be clear, there's a picture of Jerry Springer on the briefcase that Jose is holding, correct? Correct. Sure. Yes. Correct. Okay. How long is this bit? Oh, my God. It's so long. On the second briefcase is a Kraken-based Wave Runner experience brought to you by Chaz. BJ, what's on the third? Rosie O'Donnell, and it's being held by Sonny Bodo. Should I be writing this down? No. No? Why would you write it down? You're on a game show. Okay. On the fourth, four extra days off of work held by one Ricky. Yeah, thank you. And on number five is the Renaissance Festival held by Julio. And on the sixth and final briefcase is a lovely picture of a turkey club held by Martin. Okay. Does that make sense to you, Curtis? You totally understand this game. Well, I know that one of the things that will murder me is a turkey club by Martin. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Spoiler alert. That seems obvious. You don't know anything. For the audience, I famously love a turkey club, so it would be very enticing for me to choose a turkey club, and I know Ryan hates Martin and probably thinks so little of him that he might murder. So, turkey club held by Martin, that seems like nothing to me, but I guess I'll find out. Yeah, irrelevant. So, Curtis, go ahead and pick a briefcase. Try not to get killed. I would like, what was the second one? A Kraken-based Wave Runner experience held by Chaz. Let's do that. Okay. Well, as Chaz opens the briefcase, I'm going to explain the experience for you. Obviously, you won't go on it right now, but... Kraken-based Wave Runner adventure. You fly to a small private island of Krakoa. Other's guide who shirks the rules and proper shirts leads you and your party to some wave runners. In the distance, you see a giant kraken. Your guide tells you not to worry, and you wave run right up next to the kraken. As you're near him, he rears a mighty tentacle, lifting you slightly out of the water. You catch him real there. You spend the rest of the day gallivanting around the mighty beast. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Sorry, that was the cool hit, man. Yeah, you did the cool hit, man. Congratulations, you didn't die. Good work. Hey! All right, Curtis. We've got three more amazing experiences for you. Which one do you want to pick? You're not going to... You're not allowed to pick by number anymore. You're allowed to pick by experience or name. Okay. One in three, I don't remember what they were. I didn't know I was supposed to be remembering these. That's right. Just remember them. Let's use your brain. I do remember that one of these was a renaissance fest. And I happen to know that at every renaissance festival, while it is filled with murderous thieves and lots of weapons, they're all made of foam. So there's no risk there. I'm going with Bulio's renaissance fest. BJ? Your friend Bob really wanted to go to a renaissance festival, and they had never been to a renaissance festival. You're eating popcorn, and as you're eating popcorn, it turns out Bob secretly poisoned you. And you died. Sorry, you have died. You died by popcorn at the renaissance festival. Oh, so sorry, Seabags. A real shame. But don't everybody go boohooing just yet. Time to call in the house mad scientist, that wacky tacky Dr. Kirstenstein. Dr. Kirstenstein, can you come bring back this old pile of bones back to life? Precisely. Is that the pathos? Yeah, try that again, Dr. Kirstenstein. Precisely. Yeah, do more. Do like a whole... Are you chanting? Dr. Kirsten is here. Why are you singing to yourself? You wanted a song, so you got one now. I've been brought back to life by the power of song. Welcome back, Curt. How you feeling? I don't feel good. I mean, I just died, which that's fine. It was the song that really made me queasy. Yeah, that's fair. I think we're all a little bit hurting from it. But as you can see, Curtis's limbs now work again. He's just lost that tiny bit of zest for life he once had. They still don't work great, but they never did, so that's okay. They never worked great. So let's get back to winning some prizes. Curt, which briefcase do you want to pick? Who's won again? One was Jerry Springer. Yeah, I'm going to go with Jerry Springer held by Hugo. Held by Jose from Calgary. That was close. You attend a Jerry Springer-style TV show. It's not Jerry Springer because he's died. R.I.P. Oh, that's your use of Jerry Springer? Yeah, there's a contestant from Wyoming, and he just admitted to the whole crowd that he's been cheating on his wife for six years with his wife's stepdaughter, of course. Curtis, you have to gasp. A brawl comes, and chairs go everywhere, and you're in the audience, and a chair hits you in the exact same spot that our buddy Vitaly wants to attack you with a chair many years ago. You survived this. Not a great experience, though, to be clear. You got enveloped in the world of knockoff Jerry Springer. That's amazing. I wanted a Mori. Well, I mean, we don't get everything we want. Anyway, keep on picking, buddy. You got two more great experiences available. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to cut this bit short because I have to get to work. You know, I've got a lot of work to do. It's a work week for me, so I just don't have time. Classic zombie cart. Wait, you know what? I could choose four extra days off of work from Ricky, so I will. Okay, just to be clear, you know that one's a safe thing, right? You got one more answer that's real safe, but you're going to not choose that? Well, was I supposed to know that for this bit? You knew that both Brad and I have earned one death each, right? And you got my death, so the point is my other one would have been your safe way. It should be safe. It's okay. You can plot. Are you sure? Last chance, I guess? Do you want to choose four days off of work or find out maybe what Brad had to choose? I was not tracking who did which one. I didn't realize that was part of this. I mean, I knew that you both came up with three. I didn't realize that I was supposed to keep track of who named what. Well, I mean, we'd just do track. There wasn't that many to begin with, Curtis. It wasn't that hard. Didn't occur to me. I wasn't thinking about it. I will prolong this horrible death by going with number three, whatever the fuck that was. Rosie O'Donnell. Rosie O'Donnell was involved? I like Rosie. He chose Rosie. Sonny Bono. Can you tell us about it? Yeah. So you're in New York City in those big red, like, stairs that they have right in Times Square. And you're sitting there. You're enjoying your time. All of a sudden, a car hits the stairs. Everyone goes flying. You're playing down. Rosie O'Donnell is flying in the air. And you're surprised. Wow. An incredible near-death experience at the body of Rosie O'Donnell. How exciting. All right, Cote. Here we are. End of days. You've got two briefcases left. Four days off of work and a delicious turkey club. What are you choosing? Look, I know you've... Fine. Give me the turkey club. Yes. Place before you is a glorious, medium-sized, approachable turkey club. There ain't even a hint of mayo or dressing on it. The bread is a nice dry ciabatta. There's a slice of tomato, but it's been padded extra dry to prevent any untoward moisture. The turkey's glorious. It was seasoned with the lightest dusting of salt, taking care not to get too much flavor on each bite. And yes, I said club, which means there's two meats. Boom. Yet another type of turkey. You bite into it. Its dryness instantly turns your mouth into a desert. You are in heaven, but not literally. Congratulations, Curtis. You won death or no death. I understand what you were doing. Mary, you were applying that I like dry, tasteless food. That's good, huh? But here's the thing. When you said there's no mayo, I was affronted. I was like, no, man. How could he do this to me? But then you said it's on Jabada, so we're good. Oh, and that was another edition of Death and No Death. Unfortunately, we didn't get to double kill our contestants. But join us again next week when we get another shot of whoever shows up on our doorstep.

Activity request: Woo again? Uh, BG, you forgot to welcome our guest. Action: Woo! Curtis, I'd like to welcome you to the show. Response context: It was off mic. Reviewed full source context: Do that. Can you do that? Woo again? It was off mic. Yeah, it was off mic. Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Oh, Curtis. Welcome, welcome. Are you excited to be here? I am fucking stoked. Great. Uh, BG, you forgot to welcome our guest. Curtis, I'd like to welcome you to the show. Thank you for welcoming me. Unprompted. Cheer requester: Ryan Cheer performer: Curtis

Action: Hunk number one, from Calgary. Hunk number two, from Switzerland. Hunk number three, Kazakhstan. Oh, fourth hunk, Bulgaria. Fifth hunk, France. Six hunk comes to us from the country of Cuba. Interaction mode: fictional game setup presentation Reviewed full source context: BJ, bring out our hunks for tonight. Hunks? Hunk number one, from Calgary. Hunk number two, from Switzerland. Hunk number three, Kazakhstan. Okay, not from Kazakhstan. Just Kazakhstan is the hunk. There's six, remember. Oh, fourth hunk, Bulgaria. Fifth hunk, France. Six hunk comes to us from the country of Cuba. Thank you, BJ. I'm so confused as to what this bit is.

Prompt item: number: 1; picture: Jerry Springer; holder: Jose number: 2; picture: Kraken-based Wave Runner experience; holder: Chaz number: 3; picture: Rosie O'Donnell; holder as introduced: Sonny Bodo number: 4; picture: four extra days off of work; holder: Ricky number: 5; picture: Renaissance Festival; holder: Julio number: 6; picture: turkey club; holder: Martin Reviewed full source context: BJ, can you help tell me what's on the first briefcase? The first briefcase says Jerry Springer. And the name of your hunk? Jose. I thought Jerry Springer was the name of the hunk. I was really excited. I thought it was two. I thought it was two. So, to be clear, there's a picture of Jerry Springer on the briefcase that Jose is holding, correct? Correct. Sure. Yes. Correct. Okay. How long is this bit? Oh, my God. It's so long. On the second briefcase is a Kraken-based Wave Runner experience brought to you by Chaz. BJ, what's on the third? Rosie O'Donnell, and it's being held by Sonny Bodo. Should I be writing this down? No. No? Why would you write it down? You're on a game show. Okay. On the fourth, four extra days off of work held by one Ricky. Yeah, thank you. And on number five is the Renaissance Festival held by Julio. And on the sixth and final briefcase is a lovely picture of a turkey club held by Martin. Okay. Does that make sense to you, Curtis? You totally understand this game. Well, I know that one of the things that will murder me is a turkey club by Martin. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Spoiler alert. That seems obvious. You don't know anything. For the audience, I famously love a turkey club, so it would be very enticing for me to choose a turkey club, and I know Ryan hates Martin and probably thinks so little of him that he might murder. So, turkey club held by Martin, that seems like nothing to me, but I guess I'll find out. Yeah, irrelevant.

Action: You fly to a small private island of Krakoa. In the distance, you see a giant kraken. Your guide tells you not to worry, and you wave run right up next to the kraken. You spend the rest of the day gallivanting around the mighty beast. Adjudication verdict: Congratulations, you didn't die. Result type: no death Reviewed full source context: So, Curtis, go ahead and pick a briefcase. Try not to get killed. I would like, what was the second one? A Kraken-based Wave Runner experience held by Chaz. Let's do that. Okay. Well, as Chaz opens the briefcase, I'm going to explain the experience for you. Obviously, you won't go on it right now, but... Kraken-based Wave Runner adventure. You fly to a small private island of Krakoa. Other's guide who shirks the rules and proper shirts leads you and your party to some wave runners. In the distance, you see a giant kraken. Your guide tells you not to worry, and you wave run right up next to the kraken. As you're near him, he rears a mighty tentacle, lifting you slightly out of the water. You catch him real there. You spend the rest of the day gallivanting around the mighty beast. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Sorry, that was the cool hit, man. Yeah, you did the cool hit, man. Congratulations, you didn't die. Good work. Narrator: Ryan

Action: Your friend Bob really wanted to go to a renaissance festival, and they had never been to a renaissance festival. You're eating popcorn, and as you're eating popcorn, it turns out Bob secretly poisoned you. Adjudication verdict: You died by popcorn at the renaissance festival. Result type: DEATH Reviewed full source context: All right, Curtis. We've got three more amazing experiences for you. Which one do you want to pick? You're not going to... You're not allowed to pick by number anymore. You're allowed to pick by experience or name. Okay. One in three, I don't remember what they were. I didn't know I was supposed to be remembering these. That's right. Just remember them. Let's use your brain. I do remember that one of these was a renaissance fest. And I happen to know that at every renaissance festival, while it is filled with murderous thieves and lots of weapons, they're all made of foam. So there's no risk there. I'm going with Bulio's renaissance fest. BJ? Your friend Bob really wanted to go to a renaissance festival, and they had never been to a renaissance festival. You're eating popcorn, and as you're eating popcorn, it turns out Bob secretly poisoned you. And you died. Sorry, you have died. You died by popcorn at the renaissance festival.

Action: Precisely. Dr. Kirsten is here. You wanted a song, so you got one now. Reviewed full source context: Oh, so sorry, Seabags. A real shame. But don't everybody go boohooing just yet. Time to call in the house mad scientist, that wacky tacky Dr. Kirstenstein. Dr. Kirstenstein, can you come bring back this old pile of bones back to life? Precisely. Is that the pathos? Yeah, try that again, Dr. Kirstenstein. Precisely. Yeah, do more. Do like a whole... Are you chanting? Dr. Kirsten is here. Why are you singing to yourself? You wanted a song, so you got one now. I've been brought back to life by the power of song. Welcome back, Curt. How you feeling? I don't feel good. I mean, I just died, which that's fine. It was the song that really made me queasy. Yeah, that's fair. I think we're all a little bit hurting from it. But as you can see, Curtis's limbs now work again. He's just lost that tiny bit of zest for life he once had. They still don't work great, but they never did, so that's okay. They never worked great. Physical performer: Ryan

Action: You attend a Jerry Springer-style TV show. It's not Jerry Springer because he's died. A brawl comes, and chairs go everywhere, and a chair hits you in the exact same spot that our buddy Vitaly wants to attack you with a chair many years ago. Adjudication verdict: You survived this. Result qualification: Not a great experience, though, to be clear. Result type: no death Reviewed full source context: So let's get back to winning some prizes. Curt, which briefcase do you want to pick? Who's won again? One was Jerry Springer. Yeah, I'm going to go with Jerry Springer held by Hugo. Held by Jose from Calgary. That was close. You attend a Jerry Springer-style TV show. It's not Jerry Springer because he's died. R.I.P. Oh, that's your use of Jerry Springer? Yeah, there's a contestant from Wyoming, and he just admitted to the whole crowd that he's been cheating on his wife for six years with his wife's stepdaughter, of course. Curtis, you have to gasp. A brawl comes, and chairs go everywhere, and you're in the audience, and a chair hits you in the exact same spot that our buddy Vitaly wants to attack you with a chair many years ago. You survived this. Not a great experience, though, to be clear. You got enveloped in the world of knockoff Jerry Springer. Narrator: Curtis

Action: All of a sudden, a car hits the stairs. Everyone goes flying. Rosie O'Donnell is flying in the air. Adjudication verdict: An incredible near-death experience at the body of Rosie O'Donnell. Result type: no death Answer qualification: Sonny Bono. Reviewed full source context: Anyway, keep on picking, buddy. You got two more great experiences available. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to cut this bit short because I have to get to work. You know, I've got a lot of work to do. It's a work week for me, so I just don't have time. Classic zombie cart. Wait, you know what? I could choose four extra days off of work from Ricky, so I will. Okay, just to be clear, you know that one's a safe thing, right? You got one more answer that's real safe, but you're going to not choose that? Well, was I supposed to know that for this bit? You knew that both Brad and I have earned one death each, right? And you got my death, so the point is my other one would have been your safe way. It should be safe. It's okay. You can plot. Are you sure? Last chance, I guess? Do you want to choose four days off of work or find out maybe what Brad had to choose? I was not tracking who did which one. I didn't realize that was part of this. I mean, I knew that you both came up with three. I didn't realize that I was supposed to keep track of who named what. Well, I mean, we'd just do track. There wasn't that many to begin with, Curtis. It wasn't that hard. Didn't occur to me. I wasn't thinking about it. I will prolong this horrible death by going with number three, whatever the fuck that was. Rosie O'Donnell. Rosie O'Donnell was involved? I like Rosie. He chose Rosie. Sonny Bono. Can you tell us about it? Yeah. So you're in New York City in those big red, like, stairs that they have right in Times Square. And you're sitting there. You're enjoying your time. All of a sudden, a car hits the stairs. Everyone goes flying. You're playing down. Rosie O'Donnell is flying in the air. And you're surprised. Wow. An incredible near-death experience at the body of Rosie O'Donnell. How exciting. Narrator: Curtis

Action: Place before you is a glorious, medium-sized, approachable turkey club. There ain't even a hint of mayo or dressing on it. The bread is a nice dry ciabatta. Yet another type of turkey. Its dryness instantly turns your mouth into a desert. Adjudication verdict: You are in heaven, but not literally. Result type: no death Reviewed full source context: All right, Cote. Here we are. End of days. You've got two briefcases left. Four days off of work and a delicious turkey club. What are you choosing? Look, I know you've... Fine. Give me the turkey club. Yes. Place before you is a glorious, medium-sized, approachable turkey club. There ain't even a hint of mayo or dressing on it. The bread is a nice dry ciabatta. There's a slice of tomato, but it's been padded extra dry to prevent any untoward moisture. The turkey's glorious. It was seasoned with the lightest dusting of salt, taking care not to get too much flavor on each bite. And yes, I said club, which means there's two meats. Boom. Yet another type of turkey. You bite into it. Its dryness instantly turns your mouth into a desert. You are in heaven, but not literally. Congratulations, Curtis. You won death or no death. Narrator: Ryan

Response context: When you said there's no mayo, I was affronted. But then you said it's on Jabada, so we're good. Final state summary: winner: Curtis; unopened case: Four days off of work; closing statement: Unfortunately, we didn't get to double kill our contestants. Segment context: game level wrap after round completion Reviewed full source context: I understand what you were doing. Mary, you were applying that I like dry, tasteless food. That's good, huh? But here's the thing. When you said there's no mayo, I was affronted. I was like, no, man. How could he do this to me? But then you said it's on Jabada, so we're good. Oh, and that was another edition of Death and No Death. Unfortunately, we didn't get to double kill our contestants. But join us again next week when we get another shot of whoever shows up on our doorstep.

Context outside the activity. Text: It's the previous episode, season 10, episode 7, Bristle While You Work. Activity request: Can you hit that again, please? Answer or action: Welcome! Reviewed full source context: And join us again next week when, Ryan, why don't you tell us what's going to happen? It's the previous episode, season 10, episode 7, Bristle While You Work. Miles eats some cheese and has a minor heart event. Unlikely. I'm excited to find out if there's an actual inciting cheese. But I didn't get the impression he choked on a piece of cheese and had a heart attack. I got the impression that he spent 40 years of his life eating lots and lots of cheese and clogged his arteries. But you seem to think there will be a magic cheese that kills him. They brought up cheese twice. So, they brought up brie. They brought up foie gras. They brought up cheese again generically. If it's not a cheese-based issue, that means a doctor told him he's eating too much cheese and that would annoy me. I think we get to look forward to an annoyed Brian. That's my guess based on everything I've seen. Anyway, that's going to do it for us. Thanks for having fun for our theme news. And thank you for having fun. Brian, Brad, unclick. Fast forward. Quick. For myself, Brian. For Brad. Don't be ashamed. Don't be ashamed. Don't be ashamed. Welcome to Reverse Psychology. Oh, hit that harder. What was that? I really was just expecting you to interrupt me with a... You said no speeches. I bet you're still going to make me do them. I just wasn't going to include them in the episode. No, you asked for them not to do speeches, so we said no speeches. And instead you came out like a flat fucking tire. Can you hit that again, please? Come on, we need some joy. We need some huspa. We're just, you know... Welcome! Forecast facilitator: Curtis