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Live Free or Pod Hard Part 2

IN THE ROOM

RyanCurtisVitaliy

Guest appearance: Vitaliy

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Movie verdicts.

The individual movie opinions are recorded below; no separate collective verdict is asserted.

CurtisThumbs upRecorded at 51:02Movie vote
Rating context
  • Answer qualification: They just were easier to follow.; I also thought the action was way bigger and a lot more fun.
  • Spoken response: So, thumbs up.
RyanThumbs upRecorded at 52:36Movie vote
Rating context
  • Spoken response: Yeah, I'm going to give it a thumbs up.
VitaliyI have to agree with that as well.Recorded at 51:28Movie opinion — no explicit thumb stated
Rating context
  • Answer qualification: Like, the actors were a lot better in this movie than the fifth one, so.

Original rating systems, exactly as represented in the archive. These scales are not interchangeable.

No attributed vote is recorded for: Vitaliy. Being in the room does not mean someone gave a vote; the archive does not assume one.

By way of introduction.

Ryan

Hello and welcome! I'm Ryan.

Original introduction wording
  • Hello and welcome! I'm Ryan Sansone.
Curtis

Now, joining me as always from the Upside Down, the man who doesn't need guns because he's got a turkey club. It's Curtis. I would never use a turkey club as a weapon. I just want that to be clear.

Original introduction wording
  • Now, joining me as always from the Upside Down, the man who doesn't need guns because he's got a turkey club. It's Curtis Sheck. I would never use a turkey club as a weapon. I just want that to be clear.
Vitaliy

We also have my co-host, the man who would have no qualms fighting Nikita in an elevator shaft. But it's Vitaliy. Hey!

Original introduction wording
  • We also have my co-host, the man who would have no qualms fighting Nikita in an elevator shaft. But it's Vitaly Steert. Hey!
Read the full performed opening

Hello and welcome! I'm Ryan Sansone. Tonight, our summer movie marathon continues as we continue to look at the fourth movie, Live Free or Die Hard, part two of two. If you missed last week, we recommend you go back and listen to it first. This is Reverse Psychology Presents Die Hard. Now, joining me as always from the Upside Down, the man who doesn't need guns because he's got a turkey club. It's Curtis Sheck. I would never use a turkey club as a weapon. I just want that to be clear. Did you hear I emphasize turkey club and de-emphasize your name? That was for you. That was a gift. We also have my co-host, the man who would have no qualms fighting Nikita in an elevator shaft. But it's Vitaly Steert. Hey!

Someone brought rules.

The games, the premises, and what everyone brought to the table.

How this one works

How it works
  1. It is up to us to kill John McClane.
  2. We're going to take turns being John McClane.
  3. Another person will throw a challenge at him.
  4. And it'll be up to the person playing John to explain how you would survive.
  5. And then the third person will decide which one did a better job.

RESULT STATUS

The recorded result is unresolved.

What was recorded

What everyone brought to the table · 1 recorded contribution

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 59:14

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Yeah, you definitely started us off on easy mode.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:01:46

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  • Notable references: Kingdom Hearts.

Follow the round structure (3)

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Prompt
Question / challenge

Vit, throw a problem at him before he alienates poor people.

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

challenge

What if they send both an F-35 and an Apache at the same time?

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  • Submission type: challenge

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Prompt
Question / challenge

What if they send both an F-35 and an Apache at the same time?

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  • Answer qualification: I think it's going to be harder if they're coordinated.; They're bad guys.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

I've got a car.; But then what happens is I go up on a ramp that just kind of happens to be there.; And they wind up shooting each other down.; And I fall to safety, riding on his parachute.

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  • Important beats: As the jet engine is starting to fall, I jump from my car onto the jet, landing on top of; the pilot as he's ejecting himself out to save himself.

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Prompt
Question / challenge

The only thing I did, you shoot the guy on the way down?; I want to know how you handled it.

CLAIM & ADJUDICATION

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 59:09
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  • Final adjudication: I mean, obviously, John McClane wins that one.
Round context
  • Adjudication verdict: I mean, obviously, John McClane wins that one.

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Prompt
Question / challenge

It's a kid with spiky hair.; He's got really baggy pants.; Rocking a keyblade.

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  • Answer qualification: It does not have a sharp edge, but it is called a keyblade for some reason.; So what he does is he goes around and spreads love throughout the kingdom.; And I figure John McClane doesn't know how to handle love.; Well, love's the threat.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Honestly, if I'm John McClane here, I'm going to shooting range and blowing shit up.; I don't care about that.; I'm not worried.

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  • Important beats: I'm going house to house, pulling the guys out and saying, she said no.

CLAIM & ADJUDICATION

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:01:26
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  • Final adjudication: With John McClane because you presented nothing.
  • Result qualification: You presented no challenge whatsoever.; The blade that you described is not at all sharp.
Round context
  • Adjudication verdict: With John McClane because you presented nothing.; No threat.; You presented no challenge whatsoever.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

“Participant cited” identifies a contributor, not the speaker of every word in this excerpt. It may include other participants’ replies or reactions.

Prompt
Question / challenge

wood chipper

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  • Answer qualification: You're already being thrown in.; How are you going to stop from getting chucked in fully?; You probably fell out of a building and you're about to land in it.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

I'm just about to hit the blade and then I just, I magically press up with my legs and my back and I just stop myself on all sides from going in.; And then I inch my way up.; And then somehow I'd also pull a bad guy in while pulling myself out.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

The last part really speaks true because what I was picturing in my head is that the woman inevitably who pushed him out of the window, he kind of grabs her hair and pulls her out too.; And winds up throwing her below into the wood chipper.; And then as she's just about to go in, he kind of lands his feet on her belly and pushes himself away.

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  • Answer qualification: That's not what Ryan said though, right?

CLAIM & ADJUDICATION

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:03:55
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  • Adjudication verdict: So, all right, you're dead.
  • Result qualification: He magically escaped.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

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Prompt
Question / challenge

I'm going to swing a crane at him.; Maybe with a wrecking ball on the end.

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  • Answer qualification: So they're on some kind of construction site in a big city with a bunch of really tall buildings.; And this wrecking ball is swinging every which way, just knocking through buildings.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

So maybe he kind of jumps towards and onto the wrecking ball as it continues to swing into buildings.

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  • Answer qualification: I'm just adding some color.; I wasn't just, I wasn't trying to take credit.

CLAIM & ADJUDICATION

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:05:10
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  • Adjudication verdict: Yeah, I think John lives that time.

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Prompt
Question / challenge

A trip to the DMV.; He's got to renew his license.; I think the one thing that could really kill him is boredom.; He's got to wait for like an hour and a half.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Absolutely no way John takes the ticket.; He goes up to the counter.; I'm a cop.; He's going to grab them by the collar of their shirt, really stern and just be like, update it.

CLAIM & ADJUDICATION

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:05:50
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  • Adjudication verdict: Solved the problem.
  • Result qualification: But when you said he's going to name drop that he's a cop, like that's going to, he's good.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:06:14
Recorded conversation

I'm going to try and guess what Curtis's next one is.

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  • Notable references: I'm going to guess it's going to be a school crossing guard.
  • Result qualification: I would never be so silly and absurd.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

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Prompt
Question / challenge

My next one is a hawk.

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  • Answer qualification: He went camping and this thing sees a meal.; First of all, the hawk is going to kill him, but yeah.; His hawk has rabies.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

In this scenario, I'm pretty sure John McClane may have a flamethrower.; He probably just like fries the bird.; Now he's got dinner.

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  • Answer qualification: Listen, if John's going to the woods for camping, he's bringing a, he's bringing a thrower.

CLAIM & ADJUDICATION

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:07:13
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  • Adjudication verdict: I'm not fighting it.; He's got, he's got dinner now.; He's not hungry anymore.

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Prompt
Question / challenge

Our son goes supernova, envelops the earth.; No life left on earth.

CLAIM & ADJUDICATION

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:07:37
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  • Adjudication: He'll be fine.; I think you nailed it.; I think that was the win.; Good.
  • Adjudication verdict: John McClane survives the supernova.
  • Ryan: “I think you nailed it. I think that was the win. Good.”
Round context
  • Method: Let's do, let's do quick fire for this round.
  • Result qualification: I'm not saying this is my best throw

Comic bits and episode moments.

I don't think that he gets stronger. I don't think that he gets weaker. I think that he reveals more special powers that he has in each movie.

Source details
  • Question: So, Curtis, is John's power level changed between movies?
  • Answer qualification: But what I'll say to my earlier point about he reveals something new.

So, Curtis, is John's power level changed between movies?; Do we think he's slowing down with old age, or is he getting stronger as movies go on?; Do we think he'll get stronger and stronger every movie?; Or neither. Do you think he was relatively flat?

I don't think that he gets stronger. I don't think that he gets weaker. I think that he reveals more special powers that he has in each movie.

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  • Answer qualification: Well, he is superhuman. That's not a debate. That's not really a debate. He is. You can't do the things he does without being superhuman.; No, he's a human.; He's both an everyman and a superhero. Only Bruce Willis can be both.
  • Important beats: But what he does reveal is that he seems to be able to absorb and fight off radiation with no problem.; Again, I don't think that's a new power.; I think it's just one we didn't know about before.; Like maybe he's going to repel a psychological attack.; Maybe he's going to be impervious to extreme heat or extreme cold.

I think he's slowed down in the fifth movie, but in the fourth movie, he has to be like a super saiyan.

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  • Answer qualification: He definitely trained with Kami, and he spent a good amount of time in a hyperbolic time chain.; In the fifth one, he's just like that grandpa that's just there.

Well, Curtis, did you like the movie?

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  • Method: So, thumbs up.; Vit, what about you?
  • Result qualification: But also, just to be clear, like, this is not good in the way of, like, high cinema.; It's deeply silly and campy.

In the next movie, John McClane's wife will be kidnapped and tortured.; He will have to fight to rescue her.; But halfway through the movie, he succeeds.; But the real problem is she leaves him due to the experience.; And the second half of the movie is him getting revenge on the kidnappers who had gotten away.

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