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The New Friend

IN THE ROOM

CurtisRyanBrad(ley)

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By way of introduction.

Curtis

Curtis introduces himself as “your host” after an Office Space impression of Gary Cole. Ryan mistakes it for South Park before the correction.

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  • Space
Ryan

Curtis introduces Ryan as “Resident upside downer,” confirmed in the recording. He praises the impression as South Park, then withdraws that praise when told it was Office Space.

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  • Upside Downer
Brad(ley)

Introduced as “a slime bag,” Brad calls the nickname “uncreative.” Curtis links it to Luke and then says he also thinks Brad is one; Brad accepts the insult but still wants a more creative introduction.

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  • uncreative
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Welcome to Reverse Psychology, the Fraser Rewatch podcast where you go backwards through every episode of the show. Tonight, we are covering Season 8, Episode 7, The New Friend, which originally aired on December 5th, 2000. If this episode could go ahead and be funny, that'd be great. Okay? I'm your host, Curtis Sheck. Joining me as always, it's Arrested Upside Downer, Ryan Sansone. I really stumbled on the impression there. Curtis! No, that was a fantastic South Park impression. I thought that was great. I didn't get it, but it was good. Office Space. What? Yep. Oh, that was not good then. Gary Cole. Anyway, we also have with us a slime bag. It's Bradley Kirkston. Wow. A slime bag? Especially from, well, well. Did I finally offend you? It's just so uncreative. It's not a reference to anything. What? Yes, it is. Is it? Luke's a slime bag. Well, yeah, but you're assuming that Ryan and I agree he's a slime bag. No, I'm not. I'm just calling you a slime bag because I think you are one. Well, I do agree with that. So it works. Yeah, fine. I just think you could have got a little more creative, but, you know. I think you could have got a little more creative. Yeah. What would Gary Cole do? Probably not that, Curtis. Yeah. I think we can all agree that I'm not creative, and that should be evident because we've now done 100 Frasier episodes that we've reviewed. This is the 100th Frasier episode we've done. Oh, that's confusing. This isn't the 100th podcast episode. This is the 100th time we've watched Frasier. No, because we decided very sensibly to do Die Hard and High School Musical in the mix, too. Also, in that 100 counts 10 of season one of New Frasier. Yeah, right, right, right. Okay. So you only count the ones we've done backwards. Yes. Okay. Even more confusing. Doesn't count the bonus episodes. Yeah, it's a mess, but it's a milestone nonetheless. It is a milestone that, you know, I'm sure one day someone's going to care about. I care about it today. I'm going to say this right now, Curt, you better not bring this up again when we watched 100 old Frasier episodes. I will be mad. Here's the thing. I know this because I rank every episode against every other episode. It's the only way that I realize we hit 100. Otherwise, like, I have no way of knowing when we get to, I guess it'd be 110 or something. I don't know. That is kind of fun, though, because now you've got, like, a proper letter grade for every Frasier episode that you've seen. Ryan, that's really interesting. I never thought about that. We could have opened this with my ABCs of Frasier episodes. Well, what are we talking about? Just the fact that we've done this 100 times? Kind of. Ryan, is there anything else that you would want to do 100 times besides watch Frasier? Oh, is the prompt want to? I thought it was could do 100 times. Either. However you would interpret it. I want to drop the word wanted or want or whatever. Granted, I answered the question. Okay. Sorry, I didn't write it down. One second. This will pay off. You two will totally get this. I would take the high road 100 times. Is that like a Michelle Obama reference? I don't know what you're doing. Or that'd be a Michelle Obama reference. It's not. What is it a reference to? To a very difficult level in Crash Bandicoot 3. I will inflict a thousand years of suffering on you and the entire universe. When they go low, we go high. Okay. What the hell are you talking about? You're up on a Brit. Okay, do you know who Crash Bandicoot is? Obviously not. Yes. It's the only video game I ever played. Is it one of them Marios? Like one of them Marios, except you're a bandicoot and not a plumber.

Someone brought rules.

The games, the premises, and what everyone brought to the table.

Game / activity

Professor Pirate ↗

Curtis introduces three comic pirate lectures under invented academic and family credentials. Brad, Ryan and Curtis perform in turn and field questions. This is improvisation, not factual history or a competition; no score or winner is established.

See how they answered

What everyone brought to the table · 7 recorded contributions

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RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

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Degrees in piracy

Curtis claims comparative buccaneering semiotics at Northwestern. Ryan corrects the offered nautical-anthropology doctorate to flagology. Brad turns his supposed cousin Jack Sparrow into a joke about a former witches’ coven. These are the bit’s invented credentials.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Brad: Captain Redwater’s gambling story

Brad performs a long pirate monologue about Captain Redwater challenging others to gamble. The story reaches the wager but does not establish a played game or a winner. The others say it has a beginning but no middle or end. Brad thanks ChatGPT for helping create the story, confirmed in the recording.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

A chicken beak belongs to the fictional captain

Asked by Ryan for the weirdest thing accidentally eaten, Brad answers in the first person, then repeatedly clarifies that Captain Redwater—not Brad—ate a chicken beak. The others tease him about his real dinner.

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RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Attribution unavailable

The uncertain lesson of the wager

Ryan asks what the story was meant to teach. Brad insists it was clear; another reply points out that the gambling had only just begun. The closing takeaway is not to gamble against a pirate. No actual gambling outcome is supplied.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Ryan: a flag full of invented history

Ryan says the crossbones mean hugs and kisses and the skull is Christopher Columbus, rewarded by death for his killings. Asked about the black background, he says it makes the skull’s white teeth stand out. He invents a story about Roger receiving a fatal blanket and rejects the idea that the blanket became the first flag. The Columbus, flag and Jolly Roger explanations are explicitly part of the comedy.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Curtis: pirates are a myth

Curtis claims pirates never existed, then reveals he adapted vampire material into pirate folklore. He invokes Bram Stoker’s Blackbeard, Nautical Ferratu, Interview with a Pirate, Buffy the Pirate and Captain Phillips. Questioning exposes the joke’s collision with modern piracy; Brad asks whether Captain Phillips is a person, confirmed in the recording. Curtis caps it by calling Wilson from Cast Away the only real pirate. These are parody claims, not reference information.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

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A successful lesson, according to the hosts

The group jokingly declares that listeners learned a great deal and that this was a fitting way to mark one hundred Frasier episodes. The wrap-up names no winner.

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intro

Preserved conversation context only. Notable references: This is the 100th Frasier episode we've done. notes: ; answer: Resident upside downer Ryan intro wording: Resident upside downer

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    hundred

    Segment type: noncompetitive opening question segment Activity request: Ryan, is there anything else that you would want to do 100 times besides watch Frasier? Rules: Either. However you would interpret it.

    • Actor facilitator: Curtis

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    Hundred round

    Interaction mode: However you would interpret it.

    • Actor respondents: Ryan; Curtis; Brad

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    Hundred prompt

    Prompt: Ryan, is there anything else that you would want to do 100 times besides watch Frasier? Answer qualification: Either. However you would interpret it.

    • Actor respondent: Ryan

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    High road

    Answer: I would take the high road 100 times. Response context: To a very difficult level in Crash Bandicoot 3. Answer qualification: I definitely didn't succeed. I died at it at least a hundred times.

    • Actor respondent: Ryan

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    Hundred curtis prompt

    Prompt: Curtis, what's one thing you would do a hundred times?

    • Actor respondent: Curtis

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    Hundred curtis

    Answer: You know what, boys? I would do a hundred more of these podcast episodes with you.

    • Actor respondent: Curtis

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    Hundred sea

    Answer: And I would spend a hundred days at sea.; So I would spend a hundred nights in sea. Answer qualification: I'm a seaman. Response status: VOLUNTEERED

    • Actor respondent: Brad

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    Hundred discussion

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      Hundred wrap

      Segment context: transition out of the opening response segment

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        review

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          Glom task

          Segment type: local word clarification and lookup Result qualification: Glom's not a real word.; I don't even believe Curt's Google.

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            Glom meaning question

            Question: I'm sorry, did you say gloms on?; What the hell does that mean?

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              Glom meaning answer

              Answer: It means he, you know, attaches himself.; He attaches himself to her date instead of doing his own thing.

              • Actor respondent: Curtis

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              Glom verification question

              Question: Is this a word?; Did you make up a word?

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                Glom lookup

                Action: I'm looking it up now. Answer: Glom to steal.; Become stuck or attached to. Lookup actor: Curtis

                • Actor participant: Unresolved: The lookup announcement and readers of its result are not explicitly diarized.

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                twitter

                Title: The Twitter question of the week. Segment type: noncompetitive prompted proposal segment Activity premise: Niles uses meat as a peace offering for his pops. Activity request: How else can we be using meat to better serve the community? Rules: And you may pick one avenue to go down.

                • Actor facilitator: Ryan

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                Twitter round

                Adjudication: Well, those were two obviously terrible answers.

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                  Twitter prompt

                  Prompt: How else can we be using meat to better serve the community? Rules: And you may pick one avenue to go down.

                  • Actor respondents: Curt; Brad

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                  Twitter deferral

                  Action: I've got nothing.

                  • Actor respondent: Curt

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                  Meat sandwich

                  Answer: I would give out meat sandwiches to the homeless. Answer qualification: A little bit of turkey, a little bit of salami.; You put some mustard on that shit and you hand them out.

                  • Actor respondent: Brad

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                  Sandwich question

                  Question: What's your meat sandwich look like?

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                    Sandwich detail

                    Answer: A little bit of turkey, a little bit of salami.; You put some mustard on that shit and you hand them out.

                    • Actor respondent: Brad

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                    Meat coats

                    Answer: I would hand out coats made of meat to the homeless. Response context: I think I could partner with Lady Gaga to do this.

                    • Actor respondent: Curtis

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                    Twitter evaluation

                    Adjudication verdict: Well, those were two obviously terrible answers.

                    • Actor adjudicator: Unresolved: The evaluator is not named.

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                    Twitter discussion

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                      Twitter wrap

                      Activity request: I'm sure you guys at home could do much better.; So please get us anywhere you can tweet.; Anywhere except X. Segment context: audience invitation after the recorded cohost response domain

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                        Pitch task

                        Segment type: ad hoc alternative-ending pitches within episode discussion Activity request: Curt, your turn to pitch?

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                          Pitch boat

                          Ending or payoff: Yeah, I would have stayed with the boat and had some sort of weird, awkward Frasier trying; to put the boat back in the closet, and it keeps popping out.

                          • Actor participant: Ryan

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                          Pitch visitors

                          Ending or payoff: I would have done Luke putting it back together and two other girls walking in.

                          • Actor participant: Brad

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                          Pitch prompt

                          Prompt: Curt, your turn to pitch?

                          • Actor respondent: Curt

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                          Pitch eddie

                          Ending or payoff: I would stick with the scene we got, but I would heighten it.; I would have Daphne chased off by Eddie, and then Eddie eats at the meat, and then Marty; finds it.

                          • Actor respondent: Curt

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                          Pitch reactions

                          Adjudication: Oh, that's really good.

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                            ratings

                            Segment type: episode ratings and comparative ranking Competition adjudication competition established: False

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                              Rating brad prompt

                              Prompt: Well, Brad, was this episode good? Activity request: Would you like me to rate it?; Yes, please.

                              • Actor respondent: Brad

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                              Rating brad

                              Answer: I gave this one an A-. Scores: A- Result type: episode letter grade Answer qualification: The last episode, I gave an A.

                              • Actor respondent: Brad

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                              Rating discussion

                              • Actor participant: Unresolved: Intervening reactions and scene criticism have no complete speaker allocation.

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                              Rating reprise

                              Answer: I gave this one an A-.; But all in all, A-. Response status: reaffirmation of brad rating First actor: Brad Second actor: Brad

                              • Actor respondent: Brad

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                              Rating curtis prompt

                              Prompt: Curtis, what crazy ranking did you give this one?

                              • Actor respondent: Curtis

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                              Rating curtis

                              Answer: I marked this 11 out of 100. Result type: ordinal ranking among reviewed episodes Scores: rank: 11; comparisonSetSize: 100 Answer qualification: I thought this was, and I like Merry Christmas, I think this is way better.; I did think this was worse than Guns and Neurosis,

                              • Actor respondent: Curtis

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                              Rating ryan prompt

                              Prompt: But Ryan, what about you?; What did you think?

                              • Actor respondent: Ryan

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                              Rating ryan

                              Answer: I gave this one an 8.1. Scores: 8.1 Answer qualification: I think a lot of it's on the strength of Gary Cole.; For me, the Fatney storyline and the scrambled egg; really just killed the mood a little bit.

                              • Actor respondent: Ryan

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                              pirate

                              Title: Professor Pirate Segment type: noncompetitive comic teaching performance Activity request: give a little lesson on piracy to our humble listeners? Activity premise: Anyway, we thought it would be nice to share our pirate knowledge with our listeners.

                              • Actor participants: Brad; Ryan; Curtis
                              • Actor facilitator: Curtis

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                              Pirate setup

                              Premise: comparative buccaneering semiotics.; My PhD's in flagology, but whatever. Segment context: performed academic-credential framing

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                                Pirate round

                                Activity description: share our pirate knowledge with our listeners. Interaction mode: who wants to go first; What questions do you have?; Ryan, what about you?; Now we need Curtis to teach us something.

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                                  Pirate brad prompt

                                  Prompt: Brian or Brad, who wants to go first and give a little lesson on piracy to our humble listeners? Choice: Should I go first, since I'm not a real professor?

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                                  Pirate brad

                                  Submission type: The lesson throughout the story, yes. Response: He shared this little story to me about gambling as a pirate.; I wager it all.; Against you a lot.; Approach the table if you dare.; Now, who's stepping up?; Who's ready to gamble? Ending or payoff: So, my cousin Jack Sparrow always would tell me that story so he could teach me nothing. Answer…

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                                  Submission type: The lesson throughout the story, yes. Response: He shared this little story to me about gambling as a pirate.; I wager it all.; Against you a lot.; Approach the table if you dare.; Now, who's stepping up?; Who's ready to gamble? Ending or payoff: So, my cousin Jack Sparrow always would tell me that story so he could teach me nothing. Answer qualification: I'm everything.; So, it's just one.; I would like to thank ChatGPT for helping me create that story. answer: ChatGPT Creation credit wording: ChatGPT Raw transcript answer qualification: I'm everything.; So, it's just one.; I would like to thank Chachigby for helping me create that story.

                                  • Actor respondent: Brad

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                                  Beak question

                                  Question: What's the weirdest thing you accidentally ate?

                                  • Actor facilitator: Ryan

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                                  Beak answer

                                  Answer: I once ate a whole chicken's beak without even realizing it was a beak. Answer qualification: Captain Redwater did this.; Captain Redwater eats a chicken's beak. Response context: My cousin's friend.

                                  • Actor respondent: Brad

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                                  Moral question

                                  Question: What lessons were we supposed to learn from that?

                                  • Actor facilitator: Ryan

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                                  Moral answer

                                  Response: Oh, did you gamble against a pirate?; It was so clear in my story.; It was so clear in that very functional story I told.

                                  • Actor respondent: Brad

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                                  Moral uptake

                                  Claim: Well, no gambling against a pirate.

                                  • Actor claimant: Unresolved: The closing uptake has no named speaker.

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                                  Pirate ryan prompt

                                  Prompt: Ryan, what about you?; Did you have any useful knowledge to impart on us?; Actionable advice?

                                  • Actor respondent: Ryan

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                                  Pirate ryan

                                  Submission type: I thought I would talk to you guys a little bit about the pirate flag. Response: Like all correspondence you've ever seen in life, that stands for X's and O's, hugs and kisses.; When you see it, you've got the comforting hug of death coming towards you.; That is the skull of Christopher Columbus. Response context: Brad's friend who's definitely real told me about it.

                                  • Actor respondent: Ryan

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                                  Flag rank question

                                  Question: Number one lieutenant commander Christopher Columbus?; Was that his rank?

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                                    Flag rank answer

                                    Response: He is an absolute medium of death.; After the kills he logged when he came to America.; Death was like, you do great work.; That's our mascot from now on after he died.

                                    • Actor respondent: Ryan

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                                    Flag myth question

                                    Question: You're saying Christopher Columbus is a sort of Davy Jones figure in the flag?

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                                      Flag myth answer

                                      Answer: Oh, absolutely.; I don't really know what Davy Jones has to do with things.; But yeah, he's mythical.

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                                        Flag source question

                                        Question: And how did you hear the story?; Did you have a cousin that imparted it to you?

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                                          Flag source answer

                                          Answer: Brad's friend who's definitely real told me about it.

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                                            Flag black question

                                            Question: What does the black drop signify?

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                                              Flag black answer

                                              Answer: Oh, that's not to signify anything.; That's to make Christopher's pearly whites pop.; Like, so you can just really see them from far away.

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                                                Flag bones question

                                                Question: Why are the bones white?

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                                                  Flag bones answer

                                                  Answer: Because that's the bones are.; Curt, we're humans.; We don't have red bones.; Your bones are white as hell.; Your bones are very white.

                                                  • Actor respondents: Unresolved: The short replies may include Ryan and another cohost; their physical turns are unresolved.

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                                                  Flag conceal question

                                                  Question: Why do they not tell people this story?; Why do they tell people a fallacy? Answer qualification: You said the Christopher Columbus part.

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                                                    Flag conceal answer

                                                    Answer: They call it the Jolly Roger to confuse people.

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                                                      Flag name question

                                                      Question: Where does that come from, though?; Why did they call it Jolly Roger? Response context: Is it because Christopher Columbus was such a fan of Jolly Ranchers?; Did he make a man named Roger really jolly?

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                                                        Flag name answer

                                                        Answer: Because he, Christopher Columbus, of course, met this man named Roger.; And the first thing he did, right, is he offered him one of his death blankets.; It made Roger very jolly.; Then he died. Answer qualification: No, not at all.; Yeah, that's it.

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                                                          Flag blanket question

                                                          Question: Was that death blanket then used to make the first flag?

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                                                            Flag blanket answer

                                                            Answer: Not at all.; Nothing to do with it.

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                                                              Pirate curtis prompt

                                                              Prompt: Now we need Curtis to teach us something.

                                                              • Actor respondent: Curtis

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                                                              Pirate curtis

                                                              Response: Pirates are a myth.; They never existed.; They're not real. Answer qualification: I basically went to the Wikipedia for vampires and just turned it into pirate folklore. Notable references: Bram Stoker's Blackbeard novel.; Captain Orlok in Nautical Ferratu.; Interview with a Pirate, Buffy the Pirate, Ship Sinker, and Captain Phillips. Ending or payoff: He's the only real pirate is Wilson.

                                                              • Actor respondent: Curtis

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                                                              Degree question

                                                              Question: What was your degree again?

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                                                                Degree answer

                                                                Answer: I have a master's in literature at Northwestern, and I studied buccaneering semiotics.

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                                                                  Movies question

                                                                  Question: Can you please tell us what you're on about?; What is the connection is between Captain Phillips and Buffy the Pirate Slayer?

                                                                  • Actor respondent: Curtis

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                                                                  Movies answer

                                                                  Answer: Well, they're just different movies, both about fictional events.

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                                                                    Buffy question

                                                                    Question: What was Buffy the Pirate Slayer about?

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                                                                      Buffy answer

                                                                      Answer: Buffy is a high school girl.; She was the chosen one to fight off the pirates.

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                                                                        Chosen question

                                                                        Question: What do you mean chosen one?; Who chose her?

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                                                                          Chosen answer

                                                                          Answer: I don't know.; It's been a while since I watched it.

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                                                                            Phillips question

                                                                            Question: Explain to us Captain Phillips then.; Who is he?; Is that a guy?

                                                                            • Actor facilitator: Brad

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                                                                            Phillips answer

                                                                            Answer: Captain Phillips is the Tom Hanks movie based on the real story of the Somali pirates.; He looks at Tom Hanks and goes, I'm the captain now.

                                                                            • Actor respondent: Unresolved: Several cohosts engage in the film discussion; these explanatory rows lack explicit attribution.

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                                                                            Wilson question

                                                                            Question: Curtis, what's the connection with Wilson from Castaway?

                                                                            • Actor respondent: Curtis

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                                                                            Wilson answer

                                                                            Answer: the props team creating that Wilson, it actually did become, after that movie, a real pirate.; He's the only real pirate is Wilson.

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                                                                            Modern question

                                                                            Question: Are modern day pirates real or are they also fictional?

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                                                                              Modern answer

                                                                              Answer: Well, if you had seen Captain Phillips, who would have gotten the bit that I was saying that they're fictional.

                                                                              • Actor respondent: Curtis

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                                                                              Pirate interaction

                                                                              Adjudication: That wasn't a story, Brad.; It had a start.; I don't think it had a middle or an end. Response context: At this point, we're just messing with Curtis.

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                                                                                Pirate wrap

                                                                                Ending or payoff: Well, I think this is a very successful, but I think our audience has learned a lot.; Great way to cap off 100 episodes of Frasier. Segment context: retrospective segment wrap after lesson participation ends

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                                                                                  Prediction task

                                                                                  Segment type: next-episode prediction Prompt item: Legal, tender, love, and care. Result type: prediction awaiting a later episode

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                                                                                    Prediction prompt

                                                                                    Prompt: But Ryan, what do you think we're going to find next week when we cover the previous episode? Prompt item: It's season eight, episode six.; Legal, tender, love, and care.

                                                                                    • Actor respondent: Ryan

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                                                                                    Prediction ryan

                                                                                    Answer: Marty hires a prostitute.

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                                                                                    Prediction charity

                                                                                    Answer: I feel like maybe he purchases the services of a prostitute for charity or something, you know?

                                                                                    • Actor respondent: Curtis

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                                                                                    Prediction niles

                                                                                    Answer: Oh, for Niles.; Get him some practice, because we know he hasn't been with Daphne yet.

                                                                                    • Actor respondent: Curtis

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                                                                                    Prediction discussion

                                                                                    Ending or payoff: All right, well, we'll find out.

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                                                                                        postcredits

                                                                                        Segment type: post-signoff transition formulation and rehearsal Activity request: You have to say it, Curtis, so we can transition.

                                                                                        • Actor participants: Curtis; Brad; Ryan

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                                                                                        Transition brad

                                                                                        Response: Does something smell fishy here?; We're going to go from fishing to spending our time with Big Frasch.

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                                                                                        Transition ryan

                                                                                        Response: Let's see if we can catch a good episode.

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                                                                                        Transition prompt

                                                                                        Prompt: You have to say it, Curtis, so we can transition. Prompt item: Catch a good episode.

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                                                                                        Transition curtis

                                                                                        Action: Well, are we going to catch a good episode tonight?

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                                                                                        Transition discussion

                                                                                        Adjudication: Oh, that was much better.; Brad, I don't know what the fuck that was that you did.; Ryan, you're on your game tonight. Response: No.

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                                                                                          Welcome to Reverse Psychology, the Fraser Rewatch podcast where you go backwards through every episode of the show. Tonight, we are covering Season 8, Episode 7, The New Friend, which originally aired on December 5th, 2000. If this episode could go ahead and be funny, that'd be great. Okay? I'm your host, Curtis Sheck. Joining me as always, it's Arrested Upside…

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                                                                                          Welcome to Reverse Psychology, the Fraser Rewatch podcast where you go backwards through every episode of the show. Tonight, we are covering Season 8, Episode 7, The New Friend, which originally aired on December 5th, 2000. If this episode could go ahead and be funny, that'd be great. Okay? I'm your host, Curtis Sheck. Joining me as always, it's Arrested Upside Downer, Ryan Sansone. I really stumbled on the impression there. Curtis! No, that was a fantastic South Park impression. I thought that was great. I didn't get it, but it was good. Office Space. What? Yep. Oh, that was not good then. Gary Cole. Anyway, we also have with us a slime bag. It's Bradley Kirkston. Wow. A slime bag? Especially from, well, well. Did I finally offend you? It's just so uncreative. It's not a reference to anything. What? Yes, it is. Is it? Luke's a slime bag. Well, yeah, but you're assuming that Ryan and I agree he's a slime bag. No, I'm not. I'm just calling you a slime bag because I think you are one. Well, I do agree with that. So it works. Yeah, fine. I just think you could have got a little more creative, but, you know. I think you could have got a little more creative. Yeah. What would Gary Cole do? Probably not that, Curtis. Yeah. I think we can all agree that I'm not creative, and that should be evident because we've now done 100 Frasier episodes that we've reviewed. This is the 100th Frasier episode we've done. Oh, that's confusing. This isn't the 100th podcast episode. This is the 100th time we've watched Frasier. No, because we decided very sensibly to do Die Hard and High School Musical in the mix, too. Also, in that 100 counts 10 of season one of New Frasier. Yeah, right, right, right. Okay. So you only count the ones we've done backwards. Yes. Okay. Even more confusing. Doesn't count the bonus episodes. Yeah, it's a mess, but it's a milestone nonetheless. It is a milestone that, you know, I'm sure one day someone's going to care about. I care about it today. I'm going to say this right now, Curt, you better not bring this up again when we watched 100 old Frasier episodes. I will be mad. Here's the thing. I know this because I rank every episode against every other episode. It's the only way that I realize we hit 100. Otherwise, like, I have no way of knowing when we get to, I guess it'd be 110 or something. I don't know. That is kind of fun, though, because now you've got, like, a proper letter grade for every Frasier episode that you've seen. Ryan, that's really interesting. I never thought about that. We could have opened this with my ABCs of Frasier episodes. Well, what are we talking about? Just the fact that we've done this 100 times? Kind of. Ryan, is there anything else that you would want to do 100 times besides watch Frasier? Oh, is the prompt want to? I thought it was could do 100 times. Either. However you would interpret it. I want to drop the word wanted or want or whatever. Granted, I answered the question. Okay. Sorry, I didn't write it down. One second. This will pay off. You two will totally get this. I would take the high road 100 times. Is that like a Michelle Obama reference? I don't know what you're doing. Or that'd be a Michelle Obama reference. It's not. What is it a reference to? To a very difficult level in Crash Bandicoot 3. I will inflict a thousand years of suffering on you and the entire universe. When they go low, we go high. Okay. What the hell are you talking about? You're up on a Brit. Okay, do you know who Crash Bandicoot is? Obviously not. Yes. It's the only video game I ever played. Is it one of them Marios? Like one of them Marios, except you're a bandicoot and not a plumber. You're assuming a lot by assuming I know what a bandicoot is. I'm not 100% sure it's a real creature, but if it is, it's bipedal, I guess, and wears tennis shoes. Sounds like something from nature. Sure. In this level, for some reason you're going away from the screen. You're up very high on a very high bridge. Not explained how you got there. You can see about a foot in front of you and there's like tons of gaps in this bridge. I don't even know how it's standing up. On top of that, you have to like jump and hope you land on the right spots. There's ice patches everywhere. You fucking slip off. It's exhausting. I easily did it a hundred times, maybe two hundred times. Why did you do it so many times? Because you have to beat the level, Curt. What do you mean? I guess you walked the road a hundred times, but you didn't succeed at it a hundred times. I definitely didn't succeed. I died at it at least a hundred times. I want to be clear. We were successful. Even our very first podcast was a slam dunk. We have never stumbled. Never. We've never fallen off this bridge. Never had any sound issues. They've all been winners. I would shake their hands. Yeah, exactly. Curtis, what's one thing you would do a hundred times? You know what, boys? I would do a hundred more of these podcast episodes with you. There we go. There we go, Curtis. Bearing in mind, there are more than a hundred Frasier episodes left. Correct. Seems like the obvious answer, but okay. And I'm going to go with, you know, on brand for this episode because, you know, I did watch it. And I would spend a hundred days at sea. You know, I'm a seaman at the bottom line. I love the sea. So I would spend a hundred nights in sea. I don't know how much we've talked about this. You like a cruise. You seem like someone who wouldn't because you can't really handle normal life. Seems like sea life would be tough on you, but you see, for some reason you're fine, I think. Yeah. Or you throw up anyway. So what's the difference if you're on land or sea? I'm also not clear that he wants to be on a boat because he said on the sea and then later he said in the sea. Well, he said he was a seaman. I'm a seaman. Yeah. He might want a merman life. That's all I'm saying. Wow. Okay. If that was real, I think a lot of people would. I don't think that's crazy. Come on. This is a real show. If Brad's like cosplaying as a mermaid down at the, at the ocean, that would be amazing. Yeah. Come on. I would be terrible at that. Well, for one, you wouldn't be able to construct a tail. I don't know what you would even use. I would use real fish. Okay. I don't think you can catch fish. So you would buy a bunch of fish? I'm a really good fisherman. That I know you're not. Yeah. Yeah. When I was fishing for salmon in Alaska for that two years. Genuine question, Brad. Have you ever caught a fish? I have. I have actually caught a fish. How many people helped you? No, just me, but it was also in a man-made lake. So I don't know how much it really counts. There's in a barrel. At the Jewish sleepover camp that I went to, we had a man-made lake with fish in there. And we would fish for it, but it was really easy. I just assume when Brad goes to cast the line out, I mean, there's no way you've got two feet down the whole time. No, no, no. One's always in the air. As you lean back, your left foot goes up. As you go forward, your right foot comes up. I don't know how to transition out of this. Let's see if we can catch a good episode. Thank you. That was fantastic. We open with the sun rising over Seattle. Fraser gloms on to Roz's date, Rabbev and Sid alone waiting for Niles. An Alice emergency rushes her away and Fraser sticks around to build a new friendship with Luke. I'm sorry, did you say gloms on? What the hell does that mean? It means he, you know, attaches himself. I don't know. He attaches himself to her date instead of doing his own thing. Is this a word? Did you make up a word? I'm looking it up now. Why do you always start? Curtis has never been wrong on this kind of thing. Glom to steal. Become stuck or attached to. He thought he was about to glom my wallet. Okay, that's a weird usage of it, but sure. If you would read the notes beforehand, you could Google all the words you don't understand. I don't know what you're talking about. Glom's not a real word. I don't know. I don't even believe Curt's Google. Anyway, we're in a new place, so that's exciting. Is it new? Is it not just the restaurant they use for every restaurant scene? I don't think so. I thought this was a different restaurant. Oh, no. Because, Curtis, Ryan's right. A couple of the times we've been in restaurants, there's been different levels. There's been steps behind them to go up, and I didn't see any of that. It was all that this time. Oh, that's true. Yeah. There's that one layout. We've used it for Chez Henry plenty of times. We've used it for the opera guys. We've used it multiple times. I don't think that was this set. And we'll talk about reuse of set because the boat felt very familiar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yes. Were you disappointed that Niles was 40 minutes late? Oh, you know. More hamming, less hauling. Niles, come on. That's Ryan on time. It was a little weird to me that all the people waiting for their seats were just staring at Frasier and didn't even seem like they were near a check-in booth. They were just in the middle of the restaurant. I did not get this because, yeah, they're not like in the by the host stand or in like a waiting area. They're just like inside the restaurant up on his table. They're basically in his lap. Oh, 100%. 100%. And then he does the weirdest thing where he sees Roz. He calls her over. He begs to sit at her table because he's so uncomfortable with these strangers like staring at him because they want the table. But then he leaves the table but doesn't actually want to give up the table. So he leaves his jacket there. Like none of this makes sense to me. This is I guess he's wanting to be farther away from them. It was very clear that the writers needed an excuse for having him join them and they just gave up on it and just decided to write this. Like it was kind of fun to see him play nervous against this mob that's waiting for him. But it was it's a very confusing. There's no payoff. Yeah. That's the other thing. You could have done a payoff and they didn't try that. There's no payoff. Yeah. The way Roz interacts with him, though, where she kind of tries to ignore him. And then when she can't ignore him, she is just like, Frasier, I'm on a date. Don't fuck this up for me. Like, I love that. She knows her boss. I mean, how excited were we to see Gary Cole? Well, I was going to say this is going to meet Luke Parker, played by Gary Cole. And Ryan, I'm actually impressed that you recognized him at start. Are you kidding? I love, love Gary Cole. I don't know why we weren't talking about him in the opening discussion, because I love him. What is your favorite Gary Cole thing? That's a really hard question. I like I think everyone, at least most people met him at Office Space. And he's right. That's such a specific, weird character. Yes. So that when you see him the next time, it's it's very off putting, no matter which role it is. I mean, deeps probably his best role, but he's so good in Talladega Nights. He's a great Mike Brady. He's a fan. One of my favorites is his dodgeball commentator. Oh, like so good. Yeah. You're missing one of my favorites. I can't believe you haven't said it. OK. Is it vice president on the West Wing? Vice president, bingo, Bob. A hundred percent. Yeah. He's great in West Wing. I mean, definitely he's he crushes roles. Is he unique in being the crossover between the West Wing and Veep? Because that seems significant. Yeah. I actually read that before that. Yeah. He's the only one. Well, he doesn't start out in Veep either, does he? He shows up eventually. Or West Wing. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, what a guy. He's been in so many things. What was really funny is how much garbage he's in. Like, because he's so good and there's just he'll just do anything, I guess. I don't know. I don't know how much money that man owes because he will sign up for any direct to DVD, video, whatever. Doesn't matter. If you judge your friends for passing judgment on you, you're not only judging yourself, you're judging your friends for judging you. And that would be using bad judgment. Well, he's really the lead, right? Like, he doesn't often get a big part that would pay a lot, I would imagine. He's Mike Brady three times. I guess that's true. But that was a while ago. The man gambles. To your point, though, Ryan, he was always just the guy from Office Space. But I feel like he's had such a weird, huge, like, career that he's transcended that. Like, he's one of the rare cases where he goes from being you always think of him as the guy from Office Space. And now he's just like that guy. No, Curtis, to your point, I think of him way more as a TV guy than a movie guy now. You know what I don't think of him as, though? Even though this is kind of his Talladega night role anyway. I don't think of him as the cool guy. Like, he isn't this. Yeah. I don't see him as the womanizer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree with you. I did enjoy the small thing that both him and Frasier went to Harvard. I thought that was really actually clever by the writers. Because that's how you know, like, Frasier's going to be super into someone when they went to the same college as him. I don't know. He didn't strike me as a Harvard guy. And I feel like the fact that, like, it sets up the lame joke about he dropped out and Frasier was talking about how great graduation is. But I think that it's a weird thing because Frasier is going to latch onto this guy as this new, like, obsessed with him friend. But I'm not sure I fully get why they like each other. I still am not sold that he was telling us the truth all the time or ever. Like, he kind of seemed like someone that's bullshit. Look, I've been waiting to say this for a long time in the show just to brag about this in front of my two co-hosts. Is I'm the only one of the three of us that have gone on a date with someone who went to Harvard. So I'm really the only one that has the expertise to discuss this. Sorry, before you get into your thing. You're the only person that has the expertise to talk about someone who sat down at a table with a guy that dropped out of Harvard who also went to Harvard. Correct. And of the three of us. Yeah, I would have made that very clear. Yes. All right. Proceed. I'm the only one that really can relate to Frasier. And when you talk to somebody who goes to Harvard, you realize, yeah, they're an elite person. It comes out very quickly. That's the analysis you have for us. That's my analysis. Brad, there's a flaw in your analysis. What you've proven to us today is that if you are Brad and you meet somebody from Harvard, you will be impressed by them. I want to talk about something that we knew about because we're doing this backwards. The marina, which is where Roz says she lives near. We knew this because we've seen the backdrop of her window in her apartment. But I'm wondering, because she makes a point of mentioning living near the marina. Do you think that's something that's come up before this or they dropped that line in this episode for this joke? And then down the line when they had to build a set for her, they decided to keep the continuity. Like, what do you think came first? Oh, that's obviously I have to take this right. That's clear. Yeah, I can. What a good question. I don't really know why she lives down there anyway. It seems like it would be a high retail spot that Frazier should live at, not her. Well, the implication in this episode is that she lives there for easy access to men. Well, that like the comment of she was just waiting down at the dock. I have the exact line is really confusing. And then Frazier is just like, yep, sure you were like, I don't know. Yes. Yes. I think we don't see her set, her house ever again. We've been there a lot lately and we don't see it in 11. Because often we'll see a new set like that and they'll use it a lot for a season. But then they'll just never go back. Like, didn't we not see Niles's apartment at all until season 10? And then it was like every other episode. Yeah, I don't. There's a good chance we never see Niles's apartment again. And there's a good chance we never see Roz's apartment again. Yeah. That would explain why, because it does feel like we've been there quite a bit in sort of a season and a half. Yeah. So yeah, you're right. They've made it up. They decided it here. And never again will we be in here, which is refreshing. Because I don't like it near the marina. It smells. Marty is back from a fishing trip and scandalized to learn Niles kenneled Eddie rather than watch the dog himself. Frasier is smitten with his newfound friend. But when Roz shows up with news he's cheated, Frasier comforts her. I like this weird background Duke friendship that we're never going to see. It's quite fun. Sometimes Duke is involved in the storyline without him even making appearances. It's pretty impressive. Part of me wishes he was more involved. Like, we just got way more Duke stuff. I think we get the perfect amount of Duke. I wish Marty was, like, blaming stuff on Duke. And it's like, I can't wait to meet this guy. We just never do. Seven more seasons. Do you think between Duke and Marty, like, does it run in the Crane family that, like Frasier, Marty's usually the cool friend, but Duke is the exception and Duke's the cool one? I mean, Duke seems hella cool. I do love that line from Frasier, though. He sails around the world locating shipwrecks and salvaging treasure. Oh. He tells some incredible stories. Yeah, it's refreshing, really. Usually I'm the cool friend. It's just so ridiculous. It's a great Frasier line. Yeah. The reason why I like that line, because it sounds like something I would say, and I think I have said, because I am the cool friend. So it was very relatable for someone like me. But I think it's probably close to true. It's not like he hangs out with cool people that often. Yeah, I mean, if it's between Niles and the wine club, like, he might be the cool one. He's a celebrity radio host. Like, he probably is cooler than most of the people he sees. Even the people he works with, besides Roz, he's definitely probably the second coolest. Well, that's a good, that's a very interesting counter flag, right? It's like, well, what, yeah, what about Roz? Because she's definitely cooler than Frasier. But there's a power dynamic. I think he considers her a close friend, but he also thinks of her as his subordinate. Correct. Yeah. Only because she is. Correct. But I'm saying it changes the math in his mind. Yeah, that's fair. That makes sense. I also, again, I will continue to say this. I do not get what they like about each other. What? Hold up. Hold up. You don't get why Frasier's into Luke? Well, okay. For example, Luke is continually making Frasier the fool. He keeps tricking Frasier into believing things. And then he's like, no, I was kidding. And Frasier finds delight in this. Yeah, that happens. It's not like giving him swirlies or something. It's not bullying. He's just razzing him. It's fun. I know, but I'm saying razzing like this is something I would expect Frasier to find off putting. I would not expect Frasier to go along with it and find it charming. I don't know. I think Frasier loves the art of words. So he likes when someone messes with him using language. The man has run from pirates. It doesn't matter how much he razzes you. You're going to want to talk to him more. I would love to. Could you imagine meeting someone like this in real life? That's the key to it, Curtis, is Frasier's not seeing the razzing. He's seeing the pirate talk and the cool stories like that's what he's focusing attention on. He's not even really paying attention to the rest of the stuff that might be off putting with someone else. I think Luke is pretty cool about it, too, though. It's not like he razzes him and then just like is awful to him afterwards. Yeah, he doesn't like a respectful razz. Yeah, it's a respectful razz, Curt. You've won me over. I withdraw the complaint. He does the razzle with no dazzle. The fair question, though, is why the hell does Luke care about Frasier at all? I think for Luke, he likes that like Frasier's smart because I think Luke is probably around like fish and women all day long. So he likes that he's having like a very high level conversation with a guy like Frasier. Fish and women. I don't know why that's such a funny combination, but. I think because I delivered it so sternly. Yes. I think later in the episode, it makes sense to me because Frasier is going to encourage Luke to write down his stories and offers help with the writing of his memoirs. And I think Luke sees this radio professional, this celebrity. He sees this opportunity to maybe make a buck if he can get a book going. And I think he sees Frasier as a conduit to that. So I think later it kind of makes sense to me why Luke would want to keep Frasier around. But I think the episode is playing it like he wants to keep Frasier around because he genuinely likes Frasier as a friend. That's how I think they've played it, too. I thought it was going to be something like Luke is using him to write his book or whatever, but that's not at all what's happening. They seem to generally like hanging out, going to sushi places and stuff like Frasier has to push the idea of editing his book more than he does. To go back to your original point, Ryan, that he is untrustworthy, that we don't know how much of what he says is true. Like if he's somebody trying to collect stories and wants to be charming and interesting, being able to say, oh, yeah, I'm good friends with a radio celebrity in Seattle, like that might be just a cachet he sees in friendship. I guess they don't indicate it at any point. But yeah, that must be it must be something like that. I love how uncool Frasier is that we have to really strain to find any reason why. Why would this other man ever want to spend time with him? It's a mystery. I mean, that was a super flimsy reason. And it's like, I guess I don't. There's no other option. I don't know. Unless he just really likes the cut of his jib first. Like, you know, sometimes someone rubs off on you in a weird way and it works. I don't know. Doesn't make sense, though. They didn't do enough of it in the episode for me to get it. Well, it seems like it's going to be cut short, right? Because Roz runs in to say that he's a cheater. Okay. What is Roz doing here? Are you talking about the whiskey? Of course I'm talking about the scotch. First of all, it's not just whiskey. It's 25-year-old scotch and what the hell? I was a little distracted at this part because when I watched it, I noticed a continuity error. She's got like a half full glass. And then they cut to another shot and suddenly it is full to the brim. I mean, it is about to spill out. It is completely full. And then they cut again and now it's slightly less full. And then right before she throws it out, it's completely full again. Like the amount of scotch went up and down repeatedly throughout the scene and it was wild to me. And then I wanted to get screenshots of it. When I went back to it later, though, it was pretty close. Like the continuity was not very far off. It wasn't different enough to notice. And I don't know what I was doing in that first wash through that I thought it was going crazy. Ladies and gentlemen, the host of our show has officially gone nuts. Curt, what are we supposed to do with this? What is it? Just sharing my experience. You should really write down some of these stories. And please do not judge Curtis. No, judge Curtis. Judge him harshly. Why did he waste all of our times with us? Do not judge Brad and Ryan based on Curtis's ridiculous story that went nowhere. That I agree with. That is our PSA for the evening. And if you see Curtis Sheck in public, avoid him. He's clearly off his rocker. To make a really long story short, she threw away really nice whiskey. It doesn't matter how much whiskey is in the glass. Does to Frazier. Take a sip. Well, does to anyone. Take a sip first. If you're going to come in, barge away and pour yourself a glass of the nicest thing you can see. Take a sip before you at least dump the whole thing. I agree with you. But I will say in her defense, she didn't grab the most expensive she could see. She grabbed the first one she saw. And she didn't throw it out because she was being crazy. She threw it out because she only wanted the drink because she was freaking out about Luke. And she was in a wrong state of mind. And then she was like, I don't need to get drunk right now. Like, she calmed down enough to. And then, yeah, she shouldn't have thrown it out. But she wasn't thinking about anything but like a drink she didn't want anymore. Yeah, she was being crazy. It's Frazier's fault because Frazier made her feel better. If Frazier didn't make her feel better, she would have drank in the glass. So it's really Frazier's fault. She doesn't have to drink it, by the way. Just say, oh, hey, Frazier, do you want this? I don't need it anymore. Not chuck it. But then if she did that, the writers would have a funny way to end the scene. Sure. Yeah. Maybe just drop a different scene. I don't know. For some reason, this just compels me to want to, next time I see you, Ryan, just like ask for a glass of whiskey and then throw it out. Listen, buddy, I don't have whiskey that nice. You can do that. I'll be annoyed at you, but I'll be like, okay, you did it for a bit. Whatever. But like, that's like very nice whiskey. Yeah. I mean, I guess we should talk about the dogs. Oh. Oh, you're right. There was a whole other part of this scene, wasn't there? Yeah. I guess. I love that I have to be that guy. You don't have to be. Okay, we can just say Edward Scissorpaws. Yeah. I think we can just say Edward Scissorpaws, Curt. Edward Scissorpaws. Frazier tries to be sly, returning Luke's book, but once caught, decides to stay friends and hang. The only thing I'll say about this scene, a little cringy, but again, it's 2000, is Gary Cole's character essentially just blaming the girl for him cheating, saying it was her fault because she made the first move. Because he says it's his ex-girlfriend. Yeah. And that she kissed him and then acted like he had nothing he could do but participate at that point. Yes. Very 2000. And we read that he delivered it coolly and it wasn't as cringy as it probably was on paper. Oh, yeah. We know that Luke's a bit of a creep. Asterix, he's not a creep. He's just a cheat. He just cheats on girls. He's not like pervy or anything. Fine. But my point is, we know there's an immorality to him, but Frazier has made a new friend. He admits later that he has a hard time making new friends and that he doesn't have a lot of opportunities to. He's also got Niles is now with Daphne and he gets to hang out with Niles less than he used to. Like, I understand why he would feel so compelled to want to be around this cool dude despite the conflict of his much closer friend and longer friend, Roz, being hurt by him. But what do you think? Like, is this just straight up Frazier being a bad person? Is there any, like, empathy we can have for him? Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. In this scene, I don't really blame Frazier. You know, it's not like Roz had been dating him that long. This guy and Frazier. You're right. Frazier does not have a lot of friends. So I think as of this point, no, I think it's fine. Think about how old we are now. Frazier's like 100 years older than us. It's impossible to make friends with another guy right now. I can't imagine at Frazier's age. There's no chance you're doing it. So of course he wants to keep the one he's made since leaving the Cheers bar if he was friends with them. And that was some bad razzing, by the way. Right. Yeah, I don't know. I'm of two minds. On the one hand, I totally see that point of view. On the other hand, like, it'd be one thing if he just thought, like, oh, Roz is upset, but he's still my friend. But, like, from Jump, he's saying to Roz, like, that guy's the worst and he's not in our life anymore. He's, like, really playing it up that he is there for Roz and choosing Roz and fuck that guy. But also being friends. So, like, he knows that he's doing something a little bit. I don't know if it's slimy, but. That's a vintage Frazier move, you know, trying to make everyone happy. It felt very comfortable. We've seen this dance before. Yeah. So, it's a good question, though. If one of your good friends gets cheated on, I don't, I think it's fine to still be friends with the person. You obviously can't tell that to your other friend. Yeah. You can't rub it in their face like they do say in the episode. But I don't think you, you can't do the Frazier thing and be like, oh, this person's the worst ever. We can't ever see them again. For the record, I do not condone your behavior. I wouldn't expect you to. And then they go get sushi and martinis. We get a title card. A double life. Frazier continues to comfort Roz, who saw Luke with a fat woman. Frazier thinks she actually saw him. As soon as she leaves, he calls Luke for another hang and gets chastised by Daphne and Marty. Oh, really thought we were getting out of this episode without a fat thing going on. Like, what is up the writer's bonnet in this season? Yeah. Yeah, it's, yeah. This wasn't even directed at Daphne. They just, at this point, are like, if a fat person's near a TV, we are going to make them feel horrible. That's our goal. I don't know if it's like some skinny up America campaign or whatever, but I'm, this is annoying. I understand our general unhappiness with the fat jokes geared at Daphne. I'm kind of okay with this one because it is Roz doing it as sort of a jilted lover. And she's also unintentionally directing it at Frazier, which I think is very funny. And also I think she delivers the line well. Out of context, it's fine. The fact that it's on this episode when we finally seem to not be going hard on Daphne, it's so annoying. Yeah. I do love that it's so bad that even Marty is giving him a hard time about reaching out to Luke. Last time we asked about Frazier's behavior, you kind of feel like, eh, is it that bad? Maybe it's, maybe it's okay. It's acceptable or at least understandable. But Marty and Daphne are taking the hard stance of like, Roz is your friend. You should be loyal to her. You're being a jerk. Do you think they're right to kind of be encouraging Frazier not to do this? Yeah, obviously. They're trying to free up Luke's time. I think yes for Daphne, for Marty, no, because Marty would do the same exact thing. I got to say, if we're doing a Marty person watch, he actually was pretty good this episode. I didn't think he had any major, major problems. Right. And you know what was in his hand? And I think every scene he's in. That's right. A Valentine's. A Valentine. Yeah, we got a Valentine watch. Be sure and make the three ring sign. Ask the man for Valentine beer and Valentine ale. Oh, one more thing. The laws of your community are enforced for your protection. Obey them. I was sort of joking last week when I suggested that, you know, that's the dividing line. We've now got a second episode that shows evidence that this might actually be the case. I'm pulling forth so hard. And I just want to also point out, like, we just, I think one episode prior to that, gave a Lifetime Achievement Award to Marty for being a terrible person and a dick. And we did that partly as a joke. So even if he gets better, we will have given him a Lifetime Achievement Award for being a dick. He still deserves it. And I'm just like, we didn't plan that. We didn't plan that he was immediately after that going to start getting better. But it seems to be happening. Kind of amazing. Really, really pulling hard for it. Roz and Luke are back together, but she doesn't want Frasier to know, since he would think she is weak. She invites Frasier to dinner, which causes him to cancel plans with Luke. Luke makes plans with Roz, canceling their dinner. When Frasier thoughtfully gifts her a bracelet, she cancels again with Luke. No matter what, Daphne will be forced to see the opera. Brad, how cool is it that you and Daphne are apparently the same person at an opera? I did think if I ever went to an opera that I would be that exact same person. She bratted so hard that her snoring caused a performance issue. That seems aggressive even for you. I might make noises when I sleep, but I've never snored in public like that. Yeah, the only problem when Brad falls asleep is if you wake him up, he yells. So as long as you don't wake him up, it's fine. You make it seem like I yell at the person. I yell because I'm startled. Why does that matter? Ryan makes it seem like this has happened a thousand times. It's happened a couple dozen times. I would like to make note of Frasier referring to himself as F-Man. Of course. Are you trying to be a C-Man? Because I heard Brad does. I'm a C-Man. I want no connection to that. Thank you. All right. Oh, you're C-Bags. So that's already settled. Yeah, you're C-Bags. Yeah. F-Man, terrible nickname, but it's fun that Frasier wants to call himself that. So this is one of these sort of classic, I think, Frasier scenes where there's a little bit of, I don't know what you call it. I guess farce is the word for it. This is not a farce because everyone knows what's happening. I guess that's true. So Roz is keeping a secret from Frasier. Frasier is keeping a secret from Roz. And they're both trying to get a date with the same guy. And every time one cancels, the other gets the date. And so then they have to cancel their plans with each other. It's a fun bit. It all sort of hinges on the payoff with Niles. And for that to work, you need this sort of contrived moment where Niles is so disgusted by them being friendly to each other that he just leaves and sits at another table. And then they keep going towards Niles and talking at full volume on the phone. And Niles overhears. It's a bit contrived, but I don't care because I think it is very well executed. I think Niles makes it. If Niles wasn't there, it'd be so stupid. But Niles, like being the insider, knowing everything is 100% why this works. I thought it was very well maneuvered. I didn't think it was that forced, but they got him to a different table. It was a good way to check in. So you kind of got Niles' reaction. Oh, yeah. He doesn't have to talk. That's brilliant. Really loved it. One of the best versions of whatever this is. Yes. Yeah, I wish we had a better word for it because I feel like it's a thing this show does from time to time and does well. But this was, I think, one of the best, if not the best we've seen. We've seen the farce version of this. We've never seen whatever this is, and we've never seen it done this well. And then also a payoff at the end with Niles is great. I don't think we needed it, to be honest with you. I thought I liked the whole thing. It was fun the whole time, but I do think that that is a whole other level. Yeah, it was enhanced. Yeah, it doesn't end with a clean, like, oh, now we know what the final plans are for the evening. Everybody's on the same page. Instead, Niles over here is what Roz is doing. He's heard the whole thing. He knows what's about to happen. And when Frasier tries to make plans with Niles, he just says, nope, you're not free. He just knows. It's very good. It's really good. Impossible to summarize, but a lot of fun. Impossible to summarize quickly and cleanly. We may rush past one of my favorite lines, I think, of the series so far. Come on, there are no pirates. Sure there are. Luke was pillaged. That is so cool. And it would be. It would be cool to hear that. You don't really get to see Niles, like, have reactions like that. So when it does happen, it's pretty great. The only knock I'll give this scene and this interaction is that, again, I know that anybody would find this cool, but I'm a little bit skeptical that nerdy Niles and Frasier would be that into this. Get the fuck out of here, Curt. Hold on. Get out of here. Your hipster is showing way too hard right now. Put it. Yes, everyone loves pirates. I also think that a different episode might have made a meal of Niles being jealous of Frasier and Luke's friendship or annoyed that he's not going to get to go to the opera because he's already got plans with Luke. Like, I feel like there's a lot of times this show will go in a way where it creates an antagonism that is just not present here. Like, Niles is not at all bothered by this. And why isn't he? He should be. Why isn't he bothered by this? This is the coolest guy we've had at least since Frank. Probably even cooler. He's cooler than Frank. By the way, both actors have played Two-Face. That is actually pretty cool. I did not know that. Did a lot of Wikipedia today. We get another title card with apologies to Mr. Vonnegut. Frasier has resolved to break things off with Luke and come clean to Roz. Niles brings the Slaughterhouse Five meat basket as a peace offering. And Niles is invited to Marty's walk with Eddie and nearly loses Eddie in the elevator. I said I would love to watch Brad Fish. I probably said that. If I didn't, I would. But I would really love to watch Frasier do laundry and to watch Daphne host the radio. I think Daphne would be an interesting listen on the radio. She would be. I would like to see Daphne one weekend because I imagine she's run out of the things she would talk about. I would love to see what second level Daphne talk looks like. I feel like this episode is filled with Frasier tropes. Yeah. So this scene is the classic Niles silent action where he almost loses the dog. The dog runs into the elevator. He has to push the button to get the dog back and miraculously recovers the dog right as Marty reenters the scene and then gives the tremendous line and delivery. Come on, slow poke. Again, it's just incredibly well done. Yes. And therefore hard to talk about. And also, like, we didn't really bring up the dog stuff earlier. So to harp on this would be great. But, you know, at the end of the day, Niles is happy. Marty gets his meat. You know, the world goes round. What do you think is in the Slaughterhouse Five? Because they don't detail all the meats. And I thought it would be like, because it says Slaughterhouse and it's about a meat basket. I thought it was going to be like cuts of steak or something. Later, we're going to see some of what's in there. It seems like it's just like summer sausages. It does not sound that exciting. No, I agree. I thought it would kind of be the main meats and then an extra sausage, but it wasn't. But it does really beg a real question. The Twitter question of the week. Niles uses meat as a peace offering for his pops. And of course it works because who wouldn't be won over by five different meats? It really begs the question, though. How else can we be using meat to better serve the community? Curt? Mm. That's a really interesting one. Better serve the community feels awfully broad. Yes. And you may pick one avenue to go down. I never struggle with your Twitter questions. I've got nothing. Maybe we start with Brad this time. Sorry. My answer is not funny, but I would, you know, to better serve the community with meat, I would give out meat sandwiches to the homeless. You know, I would help the world become a better place. What's your meat sandwich look like? Why does it? It sounds like a sex thing, to be honest. A little bit of turkey, a little bit of salami. You put some mustard on that shit and you hand them out. Oh, what a weird sandwich. You know what? I would also like to help the homeless with my meat solution. I would hand out coats made of meat to the homeless. I think I could partner with Lady Gaga to do this. It seems like a really great way to help. Oh, boy. Okay. Well, those were two obviously terrible answers. I'm sure you guys at home could do much better. So please get us anywhere you can tweet. Anywhere except X. For the Twitter question of the week. Roz shows up at the houseboat to break things off with Luke. When she hears him coming with another woman, she panic hides in the closet only to find Fraser already there. They inadvertently trigger an inflatable raft, knocking them into the living room. I love the maneuvering we did to get here. I love that scene. I love that it's resulted in this scene. The start of this scene is such nonsense. You mean that she would feel a need to hide from the man that's once again cheating? No, not that part. That's not the part that's ridiculous. Now, Fraser's already in there? The fact that Fraser has come in and then heard Roz and has snuck in is absurd. I actually thought that was brilliant because to me it feels like very plausible that he would be going to see Luke, hear Roz coming, and that's where he'd hide. Of course you think that's route one. I guess you're getting at the timing of it. Is that just overly convenient? No, no, no, no. I think the fact that Fraser decided to hide in a closet because he heard his friend was coming down is insane. What else would he do? The jig is up at that point. Just be a normal human and be like, oh, I'll still hang out with him. Also, like, clearly she's come back for some reason. It's probably not to return his stuff. You have to figure, he's prepared a speech to give her later because he's already committed to coming clean. But he's prepared to do this on his terms. Getting caught red-handed is not the way he wants to play this. And he does not want a situation where, like, she caught him instead of him confessing. And also, like, he doesn't have enough time to, like, work through, wait, why would she be coming here? Maybe she's not upset with him anymore. Maybe she's back with him. No, he's just like, oh, no, Roz is coming. I gotta hide. Okay, counterpoint. How the fuck does she know that's her? Is she talking to herself? You make a good point. That gate really sounds like Roz's gate. You know what I think it was? I think, because it's a houseboat, right? He's coming up the stairs to get back to the deck. He pops his head up. He sees Roz coming down the dock towards the boat. He realizes she's coming. And he runs back down to hide. Because there's nowhere for him to hide if he goes up on deck. How does he pop up that she doesn't see him? Because it's like, she's not looking directly at him, but she's heading generally towards him. So he just gets his head out. Like, he can see her, but she doesn't necessarily see him. They're on a boat. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? Of course she's looking at the boat. I'm saying most of Frasier is obscured by the stairway. And all of Roz is exposed on the dock. You think he hears someone coming. He assumes it's his buddy Luke. He does a cheeky lean out. No, no, no. No, I agree with Curtis. I don't think, I think he knows that Luke's not there. He sees Luke isn't there, so he decides to leave. And as he's walking out, his head is the first thing that pops up out of the boat. And at that moment, he clocks Roz and panic dodges into the closet. We're not buying it, Curt. Me and Brad are not buying this. I was on Curtis's side already. Yeah, Brad and I agree. This is nonsense. You've not won. Normally you win us over on these things, and it's not been done, Curt. I don't think he ever wins. Well, were you won over by the scene? Because this is a third big Frasier trope, which is sort of the big climactic, you know, mix-em-up scene where everything comes to a head. It's not the biggest we've seen by any stretch, but them falling out of a closet because of an inflatable boat is pretty good. It does imply that it ends both their relationships with him, so, you know, we know there's an ending. Knowing Luke, it might imply a foursome. Yeah, right? And that's how I think the scene should have ended, is that he just hits on everyone in the room. The outro is just porn music. Nail, nail, nail, nail, nail, nail. Definitely not that. Don't want to see whatever porn you watch, Brad. Nail, nail, nail, nail. Is it X-Files porn? What is this? I don't know. No, Curtis will put in some cool porn music over my voice. It'll be me singing, it'll be like, nail, nail, nail, nail. He's going to play porn music over you singing porn music? Lost your mind. You've lost it, Brad. Yeah, this is pretty good. You're right. It's like a medium scene, but it's led up from some of the decisions that have brought us here. It's a super tropey episode. We didn't tie in, like, the Niles and Marty bit, but that's fine. This is good. I thought this was very good. It's not the best big scene we've seen, but the maneuverings to get there was really good. So, love it. Frasier plays us out with Daphne eating the Slaughterhouse-Five meat basket and getting scolded by Marty. I don't know, man. I don't know what to do with this one. It's like, I thought we got out of the fat stuff for Daphne this episode. I guess not. It might have been the origin. That's how I took it as. Maybe. They're never going to talk about her eating again. We did the chocolates thing earlier, and it was like, okay, I guess the fat thing has already started. Again, does it start this episode? I don't know. But also, like, why is Marty leaving the meat platter out? Why didn't he just crush it? To me, this is another episode of they could have gone in a couple of different directions that would have been a little better than this. Yeah. Yeah, I would have stayed with the boat and had some sort of weird, awkward Frasier trying to put the boat back in the closet, and it keeps popping out. I would have done Luke putting it back together and two other girls walking in. Great. Yeah, that would have been good. Curt, your turn to pitch? I would stick with the scene we got, but I would heighten it. I would have Daphne chased off by Eddie, and then Eddie eats at the meat, and then Marty finds it. Oh, that's really good. Well, Brad, was this episode good? I think this episode was great. Would you like me to rate it? Yes, please. Nah, that's all right. Okay, great. You know, I really liked this episode. I think we were really going through a really strong part of the season, and really the series, because we've had a lot of really good episodes. I really struggle with what to give this one. The last episode, I gave an A. I gave this one an A-. It was very, very good. Have we lowered our expectations? Yes. Yeah, 100%. Because we got through some slog. I can't figure out, are these episodes good, or are we just relieved that they're not horrible? I do think the last two are pretty good. I gave this one an A-. I thought it was good. I think the opening scene is, I think, the roughest scene. It just doesn't make a lot of sense with the whole restaurant and the table stuff. It still was funny, though. Yeah, but it just, we don't get closure on that. That would have been a really funny egg and tomatoes. Rotten egg and tomatoes? That's when they're bad. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm going to call when they're bad now. But all in all, A-. Curtis, what crazy ranking did you give this one? I agree with you. Well, actually, I disagree with you on this. You gave this an A-, and you marked this lower than Merry Christmas. I thought this was, and I like Merry Christmas, I think this is way better. I marked this 11 out of 100. Yeah, because you put Merry Christmas at, like, 50 or something, right? I put it at, like, 60, yeah. It was a weird choice. I thought this was fantastic. It's got three of the best tropes Frasier delivers, and did a pretty solid job on at least two. And the third one was, like you said, it was medium. It wasn't, like, the biggest, but it was still good. It just wasn't, like, the best we've seen. It doesn't quite crack the top 10, but it is just a fantastic episode and way better than anything I think we've gotten this season. Better than Row to Perdition, the other boat episode, by the way. And I think the same boat set. It's 100% the same boat set. I did think this was worse than Guns and Neurosis, where Lilith tag teams with Frasier in a hotel room to do therapy. But Ryan, what about you? What did you think? I don't agree with your placements. I'm similar to Brad. I thought it was very strong. I gave this one an 8.1. I think a lot of it's on the strength of Gary Cole. He's just electric, right? Marty wasn't horrible. This was, I think, Frasier's best episode of the season. For me, the Fatney storyline and the scrambled egg really just killed the mood a little bit. Otherwise, it's just a top-to-bottom really good episode. Yeah. And loved the logistics. You could really, like, get some satisfaction with the way they moved the people around, especially in that phone sequence. Yes. While Luke had firsthand experience with pirates, we have deep, studied knowledge of them. So we don't talk about this a lot on the show, you know, our academic background. But, you know, after my English degree, I went on to get my master's in literature at Northwestern, and I actually concentrated in comparative buccaneering semiotics. Brian, like Frasier, you went across the pond. You went to Oxford. You got yourself your doctorate of nautical anthropology, studying pirate cultures in the West Indies. And Brad, your first cousin was named Jack Sparrow. So we all have kind of intimate knowledge of pirates and pirate life. My first coven was named Jack Sparrow when I was a witch. Yes. Thank you for outing me, Curtis, as a witch. Yeah, I don't know where you got your stats from. My PhD's in flagology, but whatever. That's fine. I'll take whatever creds I can get. Anyway, we thought it would be nice to share our pirate knowledge with our listeners. So this is a segment I think we'll call Professor Pirate. That's fun. Brian or Brad, who wants to go first and give a little lesson on piracy to our humble listeners? Should I go first, since I'm not a real professor? Yes. You're a visiting professor. Yeah, I mean, this story came from my cousin, Jack Sparrow. He shared this little story to me about gambling as a pirate. Would you like to hear it? Is this a lesson or a story? The lesson throughout the story, yes. It's going biblical. All right. I'm going to do my pirate voice. Is that okay with you guys? It's that encouraged? Sure. All righty, you barnacle-brain-bidrel rats. Gather round. I've got a speech to make. It's actually pretty good for you. And I only make speeches when I'm about to do something spectacularly stupid. Sorry for giving you any sort of props. So lend me your ears, preferably the ones still attached to your heads. Tonight, I feel a call of destiny. Or indigestion. Hard to tell the difference anymore. But listen well. I didn't survive sea monsters tax- Why is it turning into triumph the insult comic dog? That's exactly what it was. And the one parrot that kept threatening to unionize, only to sip on me, ship and polish me coins, some sort of nautical accountant. No. I'd be Captain Roke Redwater, Legend of the Sea, Slayer of Sobriety, and winner of the All-Ocean Competitive Eating Tournament. I'm sorry. Wait. Are you the storyteller and the pirate? I'm everything. Turns out you can swallow a conch shell if you don't think about it too hard. But even a pirate of my high caliber bows before the one powerful force. Gobbling. Ah. The ancient art of Riskin. Everything for the chance to win slightly more of everything. Cards. Dice. Chicken bones. Whatever I haven't accidentally eaten. So I stand before you now, ready to make the greatest rager of my life. I'm putting down my pistol, my lucky compass, and my golden tooth of Admiral Fitzwillen, the one I yanked out after. He bets I couldn't drink a barrel of rum in under an hour. I almost died, but I didn't. Should we be saving our questions to the end? I don't know what's happening. I win. I wager it all. Against what ye ask? Ha. Against you a lot. The bravest, boldest, and frankly poorest pirate in the seven seas. Approach the table if you dare. Bring your treasure. Bring your courage. Bring your weird sock of mystery clicking noises. I know one year old you get it. Because when the dice roll tonight, when the cards flip, when the lantern flickers in the dramatic way, I keep practicing in the mirror. It will to be gold at stake. It will be pride. It will be glory. It will be about bragging rights. For three weeks or until someone else does something dumb. Now, who's stepping up? Who's ready to gamble? Why is there these direct quotes all over the story? What is happening? Master of the sea, destroyer of impasse control. Come here, you squirvy cowards. Pull up a chair. Roll up your bones. Let's see the fate embarrasses first. Is this all the same guy that's been talking? Or is there multiple characters? So, it's just one. So, my cousin Jack Sparrow always would tell me that story so he could teach me nothing. That wasn't a story, Brad. I don't know what that was. It had a start. I don't think it had a middle or an end. I would like to thank Chachigby for helping me create that story. Right, right. What questions do you have? What's the weirdest thing you accidentally ate? Well, I mean, from the story that I was told, of course, because we're still in that thing. Well, again, very first person, it's really hard to separate the story and the pirate and you. As you know, he kept the chicken bones. Oddly enough. Who's he? Who is he? Oh, Captain Rook. Redwater. Captain Redwater, we're called. And who's that? Who the fuck are you talking about? My cousin's friend. Right. Oh, right. I once ate a whole chicken's beak without even realizing it was a beak. Sorry, you did this or the pirate did? Captain Redwater did this. Yeah. Can we please stop using first person? Yes. Captain Redwater eats a chicken's beak. I think Brad did. I think Brad had a chicken's beak for dinner tonight. And now he realizes that that's a weird thing and doesn't want to talk about it. But now, I mean, the audience wants to know what I had for dinner. It was a salad. How much bird beak was in there? Yeah. Lots of bird beak for Captain Redwater. Not for Bradley Kirkstead. Have you been saying Redwater the whole time? Yes. Also, when did you learn to say water? That's exciting. Redwater. I liked when he said Mira. Very, very pirate way of saying Mira. I was waiting for that. What lessons were we supposed to learn from that? Oh, did you gamble against a pirate? It was so clear in my story. Well, the gambling just started in the story. I don't think we saw anyone lose anything. It was so clear in that very functional story I told. Okay. Well, no gambling against a pirate. Ryan, what about you? Did you have any useful knowledge to impart on us? Actionable advice? So, I went to school for flagology, as you guys know. And so, I thought I would talk to you guys a little bit about the pirate flag. The Jolly Roger. So, you've seen it, right? It's black. The Jolly Roger. Yes. Right. Okay, good. You've heard of it. So, the main thing is a skull and crossbones, right? A lot of people get that X confused. So, the bones are crossed. It's an X. Like all correspondence you've ever seen in life, that stands for X's and O's, hugs and kisses. When you see it, you've got the comforting hug of death coming towards you. I would never describe death as anything other than comforting. So, yeah. Yeah. That's hugs. Right? We're going to hug you to death. The skull. A lot of people think, oh, it's the Jolly Roger. That's some nice dude named Roger. Not the case. That is death's number one lieutenant commander. That is the skull of Christopher Columbus. I'm sorry. Number one lieutenant commander Christopher Columbus? Yes. He is an absolute medium of death. Was that his rank? After the kills he logged when he came to America. Yeah, of course. Death was like, you do great work. And all the pirates that saw him were like, oh, my God, this guy who drives a boat is so good at killing. Like, we have to. That's our mascot from now on after he died. Because obviously, if they got too close before, he would have killed them. You're saying Christopher Columbus is a sort of Davy Jones figure in the flag? Oh, absolutely. I don't really know what Davy Jones has to do with things. I don't know about that. But yeah, he's mythical. Definitely. And how did you hear the story? Did you have a cousin that imparted it to you? Yeah. Was it a cousin? Brad's friend who's definitely real told me about it. Yeah. Anyway, so yeah, you've got the skull. You've got the crossbones. You've got the black drop. What does the black drop signify? Oh, that's not to signify anything. That's to make Christopher's pearly whites pop. Like, so you can just really see them from far away. Why are the bones white? Because that's the bones are. Curt, we're humans. What do you mean? We don't have red bones. I'm sorry. I haven't seen my bones. Give me a break. Your bones are white as hell. Your bones are very white. Why do they not tell people this story? Why do they tell people a fallacy? I don't think they. Who tell. What story have you heard about it? That story like the. You said the Christopher Columbus part. They call it the Jolly Roger to confuse people. Where does that come from, though? Is it because Christopher Columbus was such a fan of Jolly Ranchers? No, not at all. Did he make a man named Roger really jolly? Yeah, that's it. Well, OK. Why did they call it Jolly Roger? Because he, Christopher Columbus, of course, met this man named Roger. And the first thing he did, right, is he offered him one of his death blankets. It made Roger very jolly. Then he died. End of story. Was that death blanket then used to make the first flag? I need some connection here. Not at all. Nothing to do with it. OK, OK. Now we need Curtis to teach us something. Well, look, I hate to make you both look a fool, but I'm going to have to drop a science on you. So something most people probably don't realize. Pirates are a myth. They never existed. They're not real. Whoa. What? I'm sorry. What was your degree again? I have a master's in literature at Northwestern, and I studied buccaneering semiotics. All right. That is going to be in fictional literature. No. So a little history lesson, the background of where this came from. The notion of pirates goes back a millennia. Cultures such as the Mesopotamians, the Hebrews, the Greeks, the Romans all had tales of ship demons and spirits that they considered kind of the precursors to pirates. Most of the modern folklore originated in the 18th century in southeastern Europe when the verbal traditions of many ethnic groups were first recorded and published. But the modern literature that popularized the pirate myth, the most influential, was a work by Bram Stoker's Blackbeard novel. Isn't that the Dracula dude? Yeah. He wrote a lot of influential books about mythical creatures. Over time, some attributes now regarded as integral to the pirates' profile, such as hook hands, eye patches, vulnerability to rum, appeared first in early silent films like Captain Orlok in Nautical Ferratu. In modern films, it carries the tradition on in such films as Interview with a Pirate, Buffy the Pirate, Ship Sinker, and Captain Phillips. I'm not sure what's happening now. Were those all porns? What was that? I basically went to the Wikipedia for vampires and just turned it into pirate folklore. Here's my question for you, Curtis. Can you please tell us what you're on about? You're not as crazy as Brad does. What is the connection is between Captain Phillips and Buffy the Pirate Slayer? Well, they're just different movies, both about fictional events. What was Buffy the Pirate Slayer about? Buffy is a high school girl. She was the chosen one to fight off the pirates. What? What do you mean chosen one? Who chose her? I don't know. It's been a while since I watched it. Explain to us Captain Phillips then. What do you want to know? Who is he? I can't tell what you guys are actually aware of and what you're just making a business of. At this point, we're just messing with Curtis. Oh, I'm not. I don't know. What the hell is going on? You don't know Captain Phillips? Is that a guy? Captain Phillips is the Tom Hanks movie based on the real story of the Somali pirates. He looks at Tom Hanks and goes, I'm the captain now. Why are you guys talking about the 50th most popular Tom Hanks movie? Like I should know it. Like I should be ready to go to talk about it. It's a very well-known movie about pirates. Modern day pirates. Curtis, what's the connection with Wilson from Castaway? Now, this is interesting because while the classic swashbuckling pirate is entirely invented as a form of folklore, even though the movie Castaway is a fictional movie about a fictional man, the props team creating that Wilson, it actually did become, after that movie, a real pirate. He's the only real pirate is Wilson. I thought you were going to say Castaway is about a fictional man, but a very real ball. I thought he was too. I thought this whole thing was just about him supporting Wilson. Yes, I'm confused. Are modern day pirates real or are they also fictional? Well, if you had seen Captain Phillips, who would have gotten the bit that I was saying that they're fictional. I don't know who that is, Curt. It's a movie. Well, I think this is a very successful, but I think our audience has learned a lot. Again, very successful. This was worth doing. Definitely the best thing we've ever done. Great way to cap off 100 episodes of Frasier. But Ryan, what do you think we're going to find next week when we cover the previous episode? It's season eight, episode six. Legal, tender, love, and care. Marty hires a prostitute. I mean... You would hit all the objects of the title that Curtis just mentioned, so yeah. The only problem I have with it is it puts Marty back in the world of being kind of a bad person. I feel like maybe he purchases the services of a prostitute for charity or something, you know? Oh, for Niles. Get him some practice, because we know he hasn't been with Daphne yet. Yeah, that's good. Okay, yeah. All right, well, we'll find out. That's going to do it for us. Thanks to Gavin McLeod for our theme music, and thank you for listening. I suppose you don't really care if this podcast is successful. You would never take five minutes out of your precious day to go to Apple Podcasts and leave us a review. You don't use Facebook, YouTube, or Instagram, or TikTok. You aren't curious what happens if you search for Reverse Psych Pod. Lord knows you can't be bothered to shoot us an email at reversepsychpod at gmail.com. For myself, for Ryan, and for Brad, bad morning, no one. I don't know how to transition out of this. Well, Curtis, how about this? How about this for a transition? Does something smell fishy here? We're going to go from fishing to spending our time with Big Frasch. Was that a good transition? Let's see if we can catch a good episode. Oh, that was much better. Thank you. That was fantastic. Brad, I don't know what the fuck that was that you did. Ryan, you're on your game tonight. I need to ignore Brad because I knew it wasn't going to be good. You have to say it, Curtis, so we can transition. Oh, I was going to give him the full credit. Oh, you don't have to. That's okay. That's for you. I've already forgotten what it was. Catch a good episode. Come on. Well, are we going to catch a good episode tonight? No. Oh, great.

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                                                                                            One hundred reverse-reviewed Frasier episodes

                                                                                            The hosts distinguish this milestone from the podcast’s episode count: it includes ten reboot episodes watched backwards, but excludes bonus films. Asked what else they would do one hundred times, Ryan chooses the High Road level in Crash Bandicoot 3 and admits dying at least that often. Curtis would record another hundred podcasts with them. Brad volunteers a hundred days at sea, prompting fishing and lake-camp banter. Curtis asks the opening question.

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                                                                                            Is “glom” a word?

                                                                                            The recap prompts a definition of glom as attaching oneself to someone. A lookup produces “to steal” and “become stuck or attached to,” but the others jokingly reject both the word and Curtis’s Google. Curtis both explains the word and announces the lookup, confirmed in the recording.

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                                                                                            Gary Cole gives Luke an unsettling charm

                                                                                            The hosts enjoy Gary Cole’s performance and discuss Frasier bonding with Luke over Harvard and the friendship developing around Roz. They debate Luke’s teasing, the tension between loyalty to a new friend and concern for Roz, and Frasier’s awkward efforts to keep both relationships. These are their readings of the episode.

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                                                                                            Cheating, scotch and divided loyalties

                                                                                            The discussion considers Luke’s cheating and whether Frasier should tell Roz. A criticism of the scotch continuity is reconsidered rather than retained as a proven error. The hosts also discuss Brad’s Harvard-date boasting and their own reactions to the characters.

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                                                                                            Meat as a peace offering

                                                                                            Niles tries to keep Eddie and Marty happy with meat while the group continues to find Marty more tolerable than in later seasons. The hosts question the Daphne weight-storyline jokes and debate the subplot’s ending.

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                                                                                            How could meat serve the community?

                                                                                            Curtis initially has no answer. Brad proposes turkey-and-salami sandwiches with mustard for homeless people. Curtis suggests meat coats and a Lady Gaga partnership. Ryan asks the question and calls both answers terrible and invites listener suggestions, without scoring or a winner.

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                                                                                            The boat, the phone farce and alternate endings

                                                                                            The hosts enjoy parts of the phone farce but debate the boat material and the closing meat gag. Ryan would keep Frasier trying to put the boat in the closet as it springs back out. Brad would show Luke rebuilding it when two women arrive. Curtis would have Eddie chase Daphne away, eat the meat, and leave Marty to discover it.

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                                                                                            Strong ratings with a disputed reprise

                                                                                            Brad gives A−, below his previous A for Mary Christmas. Curtis ranks this #11 of 100 and below Guns and Neuroses, while preferring it to Mary Christmas. Ryan gives 8.1, praising Gary Cole but disliking the Daphne weight material and closing gag. The recording confirms both intervening A− utterances are Brad reaffirming his rating; they are not extra ratings.

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                                                                                            Finding a fishing transition

                                                                                            After the sign-off, Brad offers a fishy-smell transition and Ryan improves it with “Let’s see if we can catch a good episode.” The others praise Ryan and ask Curtis to deliver the line for the episode transition.

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                                                                                            By way of goodbye.

                                                                                            Previously, next week.

                                                                                            Predictions as made on the podcast—not claims about what actually happens.

                                                                                            Looking ahead

                                                                                            Ryan predicts Legal, Tender, Love and Care

                                                                                            Ryan predicts Marty hiring a sex worker. Curtis adds both follow-ups: doing so for charity or for Niles to get practice before his relationship with Daphne. These remain predictions, not episode facts.

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