And the Dish Ran Away with the Spoon Part 1

Answer or action (theme and business): Maryland themed.; Yeah, I'm selling crabs.; That's my business. Answer or action (exterior): the paint job is Maryland flag themed.; The whole thing looks like a giant flag.; Outside, obviously, we're going to have a TV.; a crab washing station; a board with a sink.; It has a mallet.; It has knives.; an outdoor mini fridge with Maryland themed beers for breweries. Answer or action (interior): everything is purple in honor of the Ravens,; There's a master bedroom.; Obviously the bed is circle.; So there is two cents of buck beds. Answer or action (mechanical): it's going to have hydraulics and go up and; down in honor of Pimp My Ride. Answer or action (special features): The back of the Winnebago has enough room to put a horse to honor Maryland because our state; sport is jousting on horses.; So we have enough room for horses in case there's ever a jousting event. Answer or action (driver): Ray Lewis answer: Two sets of bunk beds Bunk beds wording: Two sets of bunk beds

Pitch title: Winnebagels Answer or action (theme and business): opening a food truck with it.; he does make genuinely good bagels.; So the business will be called Winnebagels. Answer or action (exterior): fully black rims.; light brown bagel colored tires.; my canopy is made of glass and it opens up and replaces the window.; It's a tinted window.; Three feet tall.; Eight feet long. Answer or action (interior): trick out the kitchen with some bakery shit.; the powder room man cave that we built just a few weeks ago.; Our powder room man cave.; That's going to be inside of this Winnebago. Answer or action (mechanical): a steampunk engine.; We're going to use the runoff steam from boiling, the boiling part of making a bagel, and that; is going to power the engine and drive this bus.; There's a vent overhead of the stove. Answer or action (special features): How about a day old bed?; All of my bed is made out and constructed entirely of unsold day old bagels.; I figure it might take a couple weeks before you've got a full bed from the unsold bagels.; And at that point, you're just taking out the oldest ones and putting in the newer ones. Answer or action (driver): I'm going to hire Gillian Jacobs to reprise her character of Britta from Community to drive us around and attract customers for her world famous bagels. Answer qualification (bagel type clarification): he's not actually making like traditional bagels.; He's making yogurt bagels, I think they're called. Answer qualification (steam energy storage): Unresolved: Energy storage is left unspecified: a battery is suggested tentatively and the presenter says he does not know.

Welcome to Reverse Psychology, the Fraser Rewatch podcast where we go backwards through every episode of the show. Tonight, we are covering Season 8, Episode 1, and The Dish Ran Away With The Spoon, Part 1, which originally aired on October 24th, 2000. Is this when we find out why Simon is hanging around? We'll find out. I'm your host, Curtis Shack. Joining me, as always, it's our resident upside downer. It's Ryan, saying so. Curtis! As you know, I am religious and litigious, so I'm excited to persecute Niles for coveting Daphne, and I guess prosecute him as well. Really thrilling stuff. I don't think you've ever sued a church. What are you talking about, religious and litigious? I sue other people in the name of Jesus, and sometimes I sue churches. But I want to be on record. I would sue a church. I never have, but I would. You just don't want them getting too comfortable. You want them to be unnoticed. Keep them on their toes. They've had it too good for too long. Well, somebody else who should probably be on his toes tonight, it's Mr. Chump, Bradley Kirkston. Thank you so much for introducing me and having me for another episode. I want it on record. I would also sue Brad. I'd be very excited to do that. Have you not? No. Nobody on this call has sued me, no. Not for lack of cause, but mostly because of lack of energy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Should we drum up a lawsuit just to get on Judge Judy? Is she still around? I thought she sailed off into the sunset. She retired. There's one show, I don't know the name of it, where there's three judges. I don't know why you would need that, but that's the show I would go on. What's it? Is it Judge Judy's? Is there just like three random Judy's that all weigh in on stuff? Anybody that walks into a bedroom, somebody sleeping in their bed, to ask for two pieces of Tupperware isn't too stable. You're a very bad man. And say goodbye. No, no, no, no, no. It's like, you know, Triple Judge. It's got a courty name like that. Triple Judge would be just a terrible name. Okay, sorry. It's actually a worse name than that. It's called Hot Bench. What? And all three judges hear cases, discuss the facts of law, and then vote on the verdict. That's the show. Why is it called Hot Bench? That I couldn't tell you, but that's the show we have to go on. You said it's a lame title. It's a better title. I just don't understand you. You know what I think we should judge? Wedding gifts. Yes. Oh, okay. Because in this episode, Daphne is forced to return the wedding gifts given to her because she doesn't actually go through with her wedding. So I want to know, what do you think make the best wedding gifts? You said the what? The wettest wedding gifts. What makes the wettest wedding gift? A showerhead. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to fight you on that, but that's true. That'd be the wettest. What's the question, Curt? What are we doing? What are the best wedding gifts? This could be a gift you got for a wedding or that you gave for a wedding or that you just would like to get or give. Should we just get this out of the way early? There's no reason to be giving gifts. This is 2026. I don't know when this tradition started. I assume it's for two people to start their life in a new house, but we can't afford houses anymore. That's not a thing. So Ryan, what's the best wedding gift you got? And then I'll say the best wedding gift I got. It was cash, but I guess if I had to choose item, the best wedding gift we got, I think it's going to have to be like cookware or knife set. You know, something we use all the time. Okay. So, you know, cash makes more sense still. I have not been married. I think we made that very clear on this podcast. We never had to even say it because I think just listening to you, the audience could infer. Yeah. You ooze single loves. I have for the most part, except for a few occasions, I do usually give cash. I'm a fan of giving cash. I like to always have cash on me, like we've said before. Wildly irrelevant to the prompt. There was once a wedding where they really made it clear they wanted gifts and not cash. Oh, interesting. You went to the Rockefellers wedding. What was wrong with them? They had a house. By the way, this was also a wedding that happened to be on Father's Day in the middle of the day on a Sunday, and they served breakfast food. Different story for a different day. And not breakfast food. Sorry. They just served pasta. Are you offended by the fact that they had a wedding on Father's Day? Like that matters? It's just weird. I'm bothered by the rug pull that it was breakfast food, which would make a pretty great wedding, and then it turned into generic pasta. Yeah, it was just generic pasta. I'm sorry. So what I did for the wedding is I went to Bed Bath & Beyond. Shout out Bed Bath & Beyond. We'd love to have you as a sponsor. It's not Bed Bath & Way the Fuck Out There. It's Bed Bath & Beyond. They had a bunch of knives in there. So I just was like, what's the coolest knife you have? And the 16-year-old that was working there looked at me like I was crazy. They didn't have a wedding registry? They did. And there was multiple knives on there. Oh, you went to it and found the wedding registry. I was like, what's the coolest knife out of these knives? And he looked at me like no one's ever asked him that question before. Yeah, because he's not like a ninja sword shop. No, he's not a swordsman. He came and got me a knife. It was like a $125 knife. What kind of knife was it? I don't care what the price was. I have no idea. He didn't even wrap it. It was just a loose knife. Oh, 100%. I just said, here's your knife. Blade up. Blade up. At the wedding, the staff thought it was for cutting the cake. They just took it and used it and kept it. No, I stopped the wedding in the middle and said, here's your ceremonial knife. Knife up. Yeah, knife up. Curtis, how do you beat that? Yeah, how do you beat that card? Like you, I mostly give cash. But the best gift I think I ever gave to a wedding, this comes back to my subway days. I had a friend from those days. And she had kind of a rough upbringing and always had awful boyfriends when I was first hanging out with her. But over the years, she kind of grew and she matured. And ultimately, she built a really nice life for herself with a really terrific guy. And when they got married, they decided to do a wedding ceremony but didn't do a reception. Interesting. So there wasn't like the traditional table to like leave gifts at and I wasn't sure where to leave my gift. I think her mom or somebody just saw me and was like, I'll take that. And they took it up and gave it right to her. What I got was two bottles of alcohol. One was a really nice high quality bottle of wine. The other was a 40 ounce of malt liquor. And then I labeled them where you've been and where you're heading. I know that she appreciated it because I heard her excitedly yell from like the dressing room, I got a 40. We're not sponsored, but I think for this one time we can use a product name. What was that? What was the 40? Court 45, is that? The king of 40s. I wasn't going to cheap out. It's a wedding gift. Yeah, we go traditional with that. There was no steel reserves. I was really hoping, Curtis, your answer was just going to be I'm the best gift since you did perform Ryan's wedding. You could have said you were the best wedding gift. You were a surprisingly good officiant. If someone needs Curt to officiate their wedding, he will do it free of charge. Yes. You just have to buy him like a 40. Doing this podcast, I don't know if I could do it again, be officiating, because I hear how I am pre-editing. I hear how it sounds when you clean it up and post. I'm not really sure how I would do a live event again. Oh, that's funny. But we're here and we're going to do this event. Shall we talk about Frasier? Let's do it. Yeah. Yeah, why not? We open with fireworks over Seattle. Niles is in the Winnebago with Daphne, still in her wedding dress. Their half-hearted attempt to flee ends with them deciding to come clean to their respective significant others. It goes about as well as you'd expect. Oh my God. What a... I mean, we knew that something was going to happen, but what a start. Oh my goodness. We're in a Winnebago. I did not see that coming. Wedding dress in Winnebago is quite a contrast, isn't it? It is quite a contrast. I mean, you had to assume there was going to be some sort of Winnebago talk as the last episode. So at least you get to see the Winnebago this time. We've heard about this Winnebago quite a bit. So this is our first time seeing it. So it was nice to be here. I will say, Curt, you gave me the heads up that there was like a previous on. Yeah. And so you told me to skip ahead to the 55 mark. I, like, for some reason couldn't just quite land it. I landed on 53. And so I, like, blocked out the picture. And I just saw, like, wedding dress and guy in suit. And I was like, ah, for some reason assumed that was going to be Niles and Daphne. So it was even more crazy to then see them in a camper. Yeah, I don't think you spoiled much. I think it's basically where the episode picks up is right there. Well, I think it was she ran out on a guy. That's all I could tell. And I assumed that was going to be Niles. Oh. I'm pretty clear that that's Donnie now. But, like, it was like, oh, her Niles got no tiff. And it's like, nope, nope. They ran away together. That's crazy. One of my favorite things is Daphne says how a four-year-old came up to her. That's how she realized that she should be with Niles. And said she's the saddest bride she's ever seen. And the four-year-old was wearing an eyepatch. We get a lot of these stories about Daphne having kind of a bizarre family life. Having a niece who's four years old in an eyepatch. Fully unexplained. They don't go into any detail about this eyepatch. It's just thrown in for color. Very strange. I mean, we've met a lot of the uncles. The shoe fits. Is this the first time we've seen Niles drive? Like, I'm not sure I even knew he could drive. That's a really good question. We have seen him drive. I remember he drove Marty to a doctor's appointment that Marty didn't want to go to. And he got pulled over. Oh, yes. You're right. You're right. You're right. Good call. Certainly doesn't seem like he could drive a Winnebago, though. No. Regardless. He's used to the sedan life. Did you guys hear when Niles said, I do smell wondering why it's taken me half an hour to put on insect repellent. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think that's believable that it would take an hour for him to put in. I was going to say, that might be one of the more plausible excuses for Niles. Yes. A hundred percent. It is not plausible. I have no idea why we're in the woods. Like, this doesn't make any sense. Well, that, you may not find out until previous. Yeah. I mean, obviously, we're going to find out about it. It's just Daphne doesn't seem super woodsy. Donnie doesn't strike us as super woodsy. I don't know why we're here. I wasn't sure at the start whose wedding it was, right? Like, technically, it could have been Niles. A hundred percent. I thought that they might have been doing like a double wedding. But it became clear that Niles was already married. Doesn't she say later of four days? Didn't they only get married four days ago? Towards the last scene. Yeah. In the last scene. Yeah. Which means they got married in the middle of a week, if you presume Daphne's full wedding was on a Saturday. Well, they got eloped. They eloped, they said. So that's possible. Even still. You elope midweek? Yeah. I don't think that's too crazy. You elope when you're ready. What's the point of eloping? Expert on eloping. Bradley Kirkston. Right. Clearly plotting things. I mean, yeah, it's fair that this is probably the weekend wedding. Clearly, there was people for this. So I guess that's fair. It is. I think you're right. Curt, to call that out. Brad's, of course, a psychopath. We don't have to trust him. If he gets a woman to say yes to the proposal, he is headed into the synagogue. Get that. Squirreled away. I text, hey, I need to go to Baltimore on a Tuesday afternoon at 4.15. I mean, realistically, they're probably already at Vegas. So it's just a pop over to the chapel. I would love to have a Vegas wedding. Yeah, we know. I do think this still leaves in play that Niles could still get married in Vegas. We don't know. Yeah, it's totally possible. When they're deciding where they're going to go, because at first they kind of have this energy of like, we're truly going to flee. We're going to just run away together. And they're like, Seattle or Canada? Niles seems to be pretty set on Seattle. He sees it as a real elite kind of a city. The only thing you can think is in Canada is Grizzly Bears, which isn't, maybe it was different in the year 2000. Isn't Vancouver kind of a good city? Isn't it kind of a nice place? Okay, well, tell me what's there, Curt, other than Grizzly Bears. You know what? You got me. That's all I got there. They got filming locations and Grizzly Bears. I think at the time that they maybe had the Vancouver Grizzlies. That's a basketball team in the old days, right, Brad? Yeah, I think they moved in 2001. So they did still have the Grizzlies. You might have been talking about basketball. There's no way Niles is making a basketball reference. But it's the only other thing I know about Vancouver, Curt. Got it. Also, like, to be fair, Niles has a baller apartment and Daphne lives at her employer's house. So, you know, you can understand why the two might have different ideas. That's a really good point. Yeah, she's like, I got nothing holding me down in Seattle. And he's like, I got kind of a good thing going. We got a mortgage, you know, like maybe we just stay at my house. That's super nice. Oh, anyway, wild start. Wow. Not what I was expecting. Well, then they do decide ultimately they are going to do the right thing and go explain what's going on to their partners. And we get these weird cuts to first person camera. You're from the perspective of, I think, first Donnie and then Mel. And it's just staring straight at Daphne and then Niles as they deliver the news. And we get there like we hear their reactions. We don't see their reactions. How did you feel about this move? Before, Ryan, you answer that, Curtis, did you remember that happening like that? I did not. I remember so little of the details of it. Like, I have broad strokes of some episodes. Some I mistake for news radio episodes. But yeah, I did not remember this at all. No, I feel like I would have, but I didn't remember it at all. Ryan, what did you think of this? I also didn't remember it. That's good. In the moment, I was like, this is this is awkward. But like after watching it, it's like, oh, we wanted to feel some of the awkwardness that they felt. Does Donnie have a heart attack? I think he passes out. OK. He passes out. You know, whatever. People pass out. Yeah. It did feel like in the moment they were both handling it fucking crazily. Like, this is definitely not the way you do this. Well, and apparently Daphne did it on like the rock garden or something. Yeah. They say that later. Yeah. Yeah. Because he passes out. Whatever. My gripe with this approach is that later in this episode, we're going to get to see some real aggressive Mel. Like we're going to get a moment with her where she's really, really physically aggressive and that we only get to hear her scream and don't get to see it. I think it robbed us a little bit. I think her in particular, it would have been fun to see her full reaction. Yes. You like to see women in pain. We get it, Curt. Wow. That was OK. I'm just. Wow. On the drive home, the family tries a name chit chat. Frazier objects to this avoidance, but welcomes their praise when they credit him with getting them together. Marty has been on a pretty good tear ever since Valentine's return to his life and never is a moment more highlighted than here. Breaking the tension last week with, I think, a sandwich this week with crab cakes. He's going at it the right way. Respect to him. So the phrase, the way to a man's heart is through his stomach is true for you and Marty. Marty's starting to get to the stomach. Show me a man that it isn't true for. I mean, fair. I really wanted to try those little crab cakes. Does mustard dip sound right? I don't know. Not even a little bit. I was just going to ignore that and hope no one brought it up. You should not be doing mustard on your crab cakes. That's very bizarre. You have to remember, these are fancy people. We don't know what kind of crab. We don't know what kind of mustard. This isn't East Coast crab. This is West Coast crab. Who knows? That would be Dungeness crab. You still, to put mustard on that would be very bizarre. It's a bizarre group over there. That's true. Can you believe that they caught a disastrous wedding after all that? Ugh. Because it was? Yeah, well, yeah. I don't care about seafood, so I'm going to ask something else. I have actually a logistics question, because the scene's broken up very weird. So we got the weird first person thing before with Niles and Daphne talking to Donnie and Mel. But then we cut to the car, and it's a very, very brief snippet where I think it's just Niles says, Wow. And then it cuts to commercial. And then when the commercial ends and it comes back to the show, it starts with Daphne saying, Wow. And I was like, does this work better when there's a commercial and you don't pay for premium and get, like, the no commercial experience? Like, did this work? Like, why did they break it up this way? I found it very strange. Look at this 1%er paying for no ads. It was annoying. It was annoying. It was such a useless scene. As you've pointed out before, like, they do that to transition it between commercials. But, man, was it useless, certainly, at first go. I'm okay with the Daphne wow, because we then have to go into the scene. But I don't know. I haven't done without both of them. It was weird. When Frasier, like, complains about the chit-chat and they kind of transition to giving him all kinds of praise, like, thank you, Frasier, for doing this for us. You got us together. Was that your Daphne, your combination of the two? Yeah, yeah. You complained last time it was too Monty Python. I thought I'd make it much more authentic. Manchesterian. Oh. But anyway, when he says he wouldn't mind, as a thank you, the 82 Latour, and Niles is just like, he's not kidding. He really wants this thing. I looked it up. Currently, now, this would have been 25, 26 years ago, so I don't know back then what this would have been worth. But today, if you wanted to get an 82 Latour, they're selling for north of $2,000 a bottle. Oh, my God. I thought you were going to say $12. What? $2,000? Yeah. I didn't know that they went up that high. Wild. When people talk about a good year for wine, which I've never bought, like you, I buy $12 a bottle of wine, so I wouldn't know. But apparently, this was a particularly good year. How many tannins can one bottle have? What is this? I don't even know what tannins are, if I'm not being honest. No one knows what they are, but it's something that I think has to do with wine. I don't, people say it, I think. Yeah. Brad, you're a wine expert. You go to wine festivals for no reason. I do go to wine festivals for no reason, but I know nothing about wine, and I prefer white wine. That's how much I, little I know about wine. That is, that shows, yeah. Yeah. I hate a wine. Yeah. You don't even get, like, a specific type. It's just a box that says white. No, that's not true at all. I like Pinot. I'm a big Pinot guy. Mostly because I like saying Pinot. So they get mooned by the moons. We knew this was going to happen at some point. Yeah. That's how they got their name. This did reveal that the whole family's there, because we speculated, like, maybe they aren't. Well, he was supposed to be driving them to the airport, right? Right. There's a lot wrong with these choices. First of all, you have chosen Simon to drive, which Marty apparently isn't sure if he encouraged him to drink and drive or not to. I think that was one of the better parts of this episode, too. I like that just dawning on him where he's like, oh, wait, what did I do? It's good, but you've got that bad choice. Then you've got the fact that he's taking the family back to the airport via the Winnebago. Can you imagine driving up to that drop-off in a vehicle that big? No. But if you're not worried about hitting stuff, it's no problem. Do you think a vehicle like that could get away with going in the bus lane? Oh, maybe. Interesting. So it's clear that Simon is here. We're probably going to get a couple more Simon Epps. It's clear he's not here for the wedding, right, at this point. It would be shocking if he was there in this episode and the next episode, but was completely missing from the wedding episode. They could pull that off. I think we got three, four more Epps of Simon. You might see more of the family in the previous one, for all we know. It'll be interesting since we've met the rest of them. It felt very much like we met senior Harry Moon the first time. That was the first time he was in the series. Gertrude, you know, I think there's a chance she was in one side. I don't know. I think it's definitely possible she is in at least the wedding episode that we're going to get coming up because I remember Niles saying when he met her the second time that he was really eager to make a good impression because his first impression was stealing her daughter away from the lawyer she was about to marry. Which we've now seen. Mostly. Are De Winterbago windows? Are they, do they have a big back window? I don't think you'd get multiple people mooning out of it. I feel like if there's a back windshield, it's got to be pretty tinted, right? Yeah, best case. The way they were making it sound like there was many butts pressed up against that window. Maybe we should wait till next scene to bring it up, but we're going to find out Roz was in there too. Yes. I think I missed that in all the hullabaloo. I'll bring in the next scene and I'll explain it to you. We had a title card. If they'd given cash, he'd be in Cabo by now. Roz helps Daphne package the wedding gifts for return to the givers. But Simon has been opening and using them in the Winnebago. Marty is being polite about Daphne's nasty corn muffins and Niles is super awkward around his new lady friend. So anyway, Ryan, to follow up on that, early in this scene, Daphne asks Roz if Simon got her home okay after dropping the family off at the airport. Oh yeah, right. Because then she's explaining how the whole neighborhood got a show. Right, right, right. He tried to hit on her and then when she said no, he tried to hit on her babysitter who luckily that's okay because she's on the JV soccer team. What was this joke? I mean, what are we talking about here? It was one of the more inappropriate jokes the show's ever made. Really dark. I mean, we're talking about very underage and everyone was just like, ah, Simon, what can you do? Also, theoretically, if he drops her off, she goes up to her apartment, she then can drive home the babysitter or somebody picks up the babysitter. Why is Simon coming up to meet the babysitter at all? I hope Roz didn't send her home in the Winnebago. That'd be criminal if he hits on her and then she's like, okay, take her home. I don't know that she would have followed through after that, but the idea that the reason this even happened is because she was going to, even that would be crazy. I don't think that's what happened, but that would be crazy. I think he drunkenly followed, I assume he's Cameron, he drunkenly followed her up to her apartment. Oh yeah. He's like, let's get it on. And then he sees, I don't know, what, 15 year old? And he's just like, hey, you'll do. Like, what the hell is going on here? Yeah. Dark. Dark. Dark best, like, and everyone is just like, yep, fine. I'm not going to interrogate that whatsoever. So that one, that was dark and definitely insane. I don't know how that one made it on onto the writing room floor, but I didn't buy for a second that Marty has hit five newsstands. I'm not buying that. He seems like a very good driver back in his youth when he, you know, had his eyes and stuff. That, I, I'm sorry. I'm just completely thrown because you're defending Marty. It just. What is happening? I'm not defending him. It just doesn't jive with the guy we know. Like, he's an idiot. Sure. But he seems like one of those, uh, salt of the earth guys that can drive anything. You know, he takes his son's camping and stuff. Right. I feel like in the upside down in the early years, you know, it was filled with spookiness and Demogorgons and it was very dangerous. And in season five, you know, none of those are really present. I feel like maybe you entered the, the part of the upside down where you're like, Marty's fine. I got into the abyss. There's no monsters here. I'm like, whatever. Also, Simon's a bigger monster. I have to focus on him today. Well, I mean, no question. Simon on the monster scale does beat Marty today. Maybe that's why we have Simon here. Maybe it's to make Marty look good. We always need to do that. We had to do that with Gertrude and other people. I can't remember it right now. So Simon, Simon's up. It's very clear that begrudedly. We'll fix that in post. Why do you try for words longer than six letters? I'll be grudgingly. I thought you were trying to say Gertrude's name in there. No. By Gertrude Lee. By Gertrude Lee. You have said more positive things about Marty in the last, probably like in this last season than you have combined in the previous three seasons. And I think that's been very hard for you. Maybe I don't hate Valentine's up Marty. I don't know. It's still in play. Yeah. I do want to talk a little more about Simon because I don't think I really interrogated it that hardly. That hardly. Jesus Christ. I don't think I really lingered on it or thought about it because why would I want to? But you raise a good point about the 15 year old and all the other stuff. I do feel like the way the show is presenting him, it's supposed to be he's a bit buffoonish. You're supposed to roll your eyes at him. He's supposed to be kind of like, oh, what a cad. What a drunkard. But like drunk driving and like hitting on young girls like this is like you said, criminal level shit. Like he's a fucking monster. We don't really get the buffoonery out of him this episode either. He's a little more cogent with his monstrosities than I think we've had in the other episodes with him. Yeah. Like they seem more upset about him opening gifts and using them than they do about like drunk driving. Oh, yeah. They would have hung him on a cross for that. The JV soccer girl, whatever. It's fine. Very awkward. Almost kiss for Niles Daphne. Which I don't know why we did the almost kiss here. I forget. Who are we keeping it from? I think they're just in an awkward place. And like even Simon looks at them like, what are you guys doing? It's not very clear why the kiss is so awkward. Yeah, I think they're in this weird transition where before they were not in any kind of romantic relationship. And then he's literally married right now. And she almost was. And it's brand new. Like they haven't even really had time to have a first date yet. And now they're going to like have a nearly first kiss in front of all of the family. Like it would be awkward, I think. You don't think they first kissed before they fled the wedding? I'm sure they could. But I'm saying they've probably had very little physical contact and virtually no romantic time. They spent most of their time in relationship getting out of their other relationships. Huh. Well, anyway, it was super awkward. It was awkward for me to watch. So yeah, totally. Thank you, you too. In the kitchen, Niles and Daphne can relax and be affectionate. They agree to take this new relationship slow. Mel calls to ask to meet up with Niles and Daphne gets served with a lawsuit from Donnie. I like when Niles asks if Daphne is free and it's like, of course she's free. She just threw away her life. What could she possibly have? I do love this whole scene. She's wearing a Hawaiian shirt. Don't know why she's wearing a Hawaiian shirt, but it's great for this scene. Didn't even notice. Yeah, the whole time she's wearing this ridiculous Hawaiian shirt. Is she? Yes. She's wearing a Hawaiian shirt the whole scene. How am I the only one that noticed it? The blind man. I'm kind of wondering if you know what a Hawaiian shirt is. Oh, I know what a Hawaiian shirt is. Are you kidding? You're talking to me. You don't think I own multiple Hawaiian shirts? Well, you do, but I don't know if you know which ones are the Hawaiian ones. Got it. I like when Niles is listing the things that could happen and he's like, We shouldn't rush into anything, like living together or even physical relations until I have the situation resolved with Mel. Why did you list living together? Of course you're not going to do that immediately. Our order was very bizarre, but you know, she does live with his brother, so you know, it's a little weird. Is that why? I guess that it is a unique circumstance, but it's still a very weird thing to list first. Because it's not like she owns her own place, so I think that's what I was thinking more of it. But then he talks about the no physical contact, she agrees, and then he like gets all upset about it. No. Oh, no, he celebrates, doesn't he? It's not celebrating. No, I thought it was more of annoyance. Oh, I thought that was a celebration. I took it more like he was like, almost like he was hoping she would rebuff him and be like, No, we're having sex tonight. 100%. That's how I took it too. Oh, I thought he was doing like his psych dance. He's like, yes, she agrees that we should take it slow. It was the opposite. No, not at all. I will say it was ambiguous. It was kind of hard to tell. I waffled between the two because it just, I couldn't make sense of why he would do that. Like, why bring it up if you want to have a physical relationship? Why open with let's not? I get why you would be mad if she says let's not have physical relations right away. I just, I didn't think that's what he was acting out. We really find out when Mel calls that Frasier is really not a fan of Mel. That's true. There was a chance that last episode we saw the start of their attention and it's clear that something predates that. Yes, we get, we get clear instead Frasier is not a big supporter of Mel. So I am excited to see how that plays out. You have already, but I am also excited. Fine. Let me, let me redo my statement. I'm excited to discuss it on future episodes of this. Okay. Yeah. I, I, it is something that the upside down is, is looking forward to because it doesn't quite jive. I will also add that, you know, the other thing we got from Frasier, he kind of points out to them how silly they're being. Like you, the cat's out of the bag. We know what's going on. You don't have to be awkward about this. You actually sit the phrase kind of the bag. That's not a Curtis phrase. That's the phrase that Frasier actually says. I only speak in quotes. Yeah. We're not an original thought podcast, Brad. This is a rewatch. It's a rewatch. Our audience knows. Okay. So the guy shows up with flowers. I don't know if we need to spend flowers to serve someone when you're knocking on their door, but they do. I played it out as that's what Donnie wanted. Which is also confusing. Yeah, I don't know how getting served papers works in real life. I feel like in TV shows, they always present it like some kind of a trick. Like you have to like trick them into accepting the papers. I don't know if that really needs to happen, but I do feel like this guy really gets a kick out of it. Like he knew this is going to be like a real kick in the pants for the day. Like the person he's serving is not going to like this. And rather than being like empathetic about it, he like puts on a smile and is like, I can't wait to smile on their face as I hand them papers. Like he seems to really get off on the fact that he's serving her. You know what, Curt, though? It does get me thinking about the Twitter question of the week. I gotta wonder, how would you serve a newlywed? Clearly I'd bake into the cake. And then as they're opening the cake, then they see the serve notice and you go, you got served. I'm sorry, you said you would bake into the cake? Yeah, I would like put it into the cake. Oh, I thought you meant you would go into the cake. No, no, no. No, I'd bake it into the cake. Bake it into the cake. That's a big, I think you left off it the first time and it was concerning. I thought you were going to bake yourself. No, as they're cutting it open, then they get the notice and then they've been served. What if they cut it in half? Is it still valid? I think so. So it's like a king cake? It's like the little baby Jesus, but he's holding papers? Yeah. What if they don't get it? What if like a guest gets it? Oh, sorry. Curtis, you got something better? Curt, you got something better. I would DM them over Twitter. That's not how serving works. You can't DM them. I'm clearly better at this game than Curtis. Every week you ask a Twitter question of the week and my answer is by far better than Curtis's. Curtis's card's worth showing. I don't know how I would do it. I just know I would have a smile on my face. Okay. Oh, that was much better than your actual answer. Anyway, as always, those were two really terrible answers. I'm certain you all could do better. So get at us anywhere you can tweet except for X for the Twitter question of the week. So going back to the episode, you know, they all find out that, you know, she's being sued by Donnie. And then my favorite is Simon goes, Call me crazy. But you know what I think we all need right now? A nice pot of fondue. And didn't you guys agree? Like that did seem like a nice way to break the ice. It was time for some fondue. It would have helped. Yeah. Similar to the earlier thing Marty was trying to pull here. It would have been nice to all bond over some fondue while they lamented about her being served. We didn't talk about the Marty part of the scene, but he is he's wolfing down these corn muffins she's made. And she knows that they're terrible and that he hates them. But why did she make them? Who are they for? She's not eating them. She's the house cooked for some reason. Yeah, she it's like she has to for no reason. For no reason. Even though she's terrible at it. They still all agree that they're not going to do it. So she has to do it. Ryan's right. Guess who's short, wears a tuxedo and has frosting all over his feet. Frasier heads to Donnie's office to empathize and reason with him. Instead, he provokes a second lawsuit. I don't know if I was having a day, but did it feel like this episode was long to this point? Like we've been going longer than you. I was shocked at how much time was left when I paused. These last two scenes are weirdly long, even though I don't feel like that much happened. Like half the episode is these two scenes. That's the first thing. The second thing is we find out in this scene, all this happened in one day. Like this is the next day. Yeah. Right. He's still wearing the tux from the wedding the night before. He went crazy. Like it could be, it could be a month later. He could still be wearing the tux. That would be fine. He said, he said in the scene. No, no, I agree. I'm not refuting you. I'm just saying like, that's not an indicator that it's the next day. So Frasier, just a bad idea, right? Like what is the best case scenario for him coming down? Well, we saw the best case, the best case scenario was he talked Donnie out of suing Daphne, right? Like that, we got there and then he had to keep going and then that ended it. And then it reversed and then he got sued. But like he was one sentence shy of pulling off his goal. I don't think it makes sense to do so. But in this case, it did. We saw what the best case would be. If you or somebody, you know, has been served papers and is being sued, probably best not to talk to the person doing the suing without a lawyer present. You would think. Frasier's not the one getting sued. Yeah, but still, he's involved in it. Here's what I'm saying. The lawyer would have advised Frasier, don't take blame for breaking up the wedding. This isn't something you can sue over anyway. He says he's suing Daphne over breach of contract. What is the contract she signed that he is suing over? We don't know. There could very well be a contract. We don't know. Could there be? Are there usually contracts for getting engaged? Usually the wedding is the contract. No, but not everyone marries lawyers. The whole thing is a little bit of a stretch. The only thing I was going to say is maybe he's referring more to like the money he already puts down for the wedding. So that's why it's like a breach of contract because they agreed to like split the wedding and now it all falls on him because they're getting divorced because they're not actually getting married. Or that might be a little bit of a stretch. Oh, that doesn't matter. There's no chance Frasier can get sued just because he talked to someone once. Yeah, that part's insane. This is Donnie being crazy, right? That reflects on it, right? But like the fact that Donnie thinks he's got any chance is hilarious. Does he think he has a chance? Because he's a lawyer. We don't know how good of a lawyer, but he is a lawyer. Like, do we know for certain at this point, is he doing this because he thinks he's got a case or because he is trying to punish them and he sees a way to give them turmoil in their lives? Just the act of being sued, whether or not you win is going to be expensive and time consuming and stressful. Brad, legal corner is your corner. You tell us. Yeah. Yeah. A resident lawyer, Bradley Kirkston. A resident lawyer enthusiast. Yeah. Just, you know, I may or may not have been doing something. Will you just ask me the question one more time? He pleaded the fifth. You know what? I was originally thinking in my head, I was like, maybe I'll just replace all of Brad's words with Charlie Kelly lawyering from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. But you know what? Him pleading the fifth, even funnier. Then I'll just regress because I feel like I made myself perfectly redundant. Who's Mr. Chum now? Okay. That's all I want to say. Yeah. Who's Mr. Chum now? Still you. Us. Eric, it's us for doing this. Big, big props to Donnie's bug eye. Like he really does look. It's not a very cartoonish bug eye. It's like subtle enough that it looks real. It's like he looks a little unhinged. I liked it. Yeah. I agree. Up until the last like, you know, three episodes, you've really, you haven't seen a lot of Donnie. You really excited to like get to know Donnie, the character? I was a little bummed out because before we've only seen him nice in person. This was the first time we've seen him be crazed. And I like part of me liked the idea of him being crazy off camera, but not on camera. But I thought this worked. So I assume he's going to be kind of like jovial the rest of the way, which is fine. It sets up for this scene. So I'm okay with it. I don't, I don't know if I'm excited or anything. I also, I don't know how long we'll have him for. We have no indicator of that at all. Yeah. Well, and you, you mentioned how good the actor does doing the bug eyes and really selling the crazy without overdoing it. I will just call out Saul Rubinek. Fantastic actor. Did a great job. Don't know who he is. What's he from? Also, that's Brad's job. Ryan, you would most know him from an episode called The Most Toys from Star Trek The Next Generation. My dear Android, I'm going to call you Mr. Chubb. Okay. All right. Been a while since I've thrown Star Trek at you. Are you all caught up on Starfleet Academy, Ryan? Is that the mobile app? It's the new show. There's a new show. Oh, people are mad about that one, Curt. Probably because it's like, how can we still be telling Star Trek stories? I'm old and boring. The most unhinged thing Donnie does in this whole scene is that he leaves Frasier and he's like, lock up when you leave. Why are you leaving Frasier in your office after you just told him you're going to sue him? What is that? Leaving the person you're suing in your office alone seems about as risky and stupid as showing up to the person suing you and revealing information about what you did to them. I think leaving almost anyone in your office for almost any reason alone is not a great idea. It only gets worse from there, right? Like a jilted lover, someone you're suing. You know, there's like there's reasons that you definitely shouldn't leave them in there. Again, almost never would you leave someone in there. And she'd be like, oh, lock up on your way out. Also, how can you do that? Niles freaks out when the chronically punctual Mel is late. She offers a clean divorce but demands some marriage time to minimize the damage to her reputation. To wit, tonight is their wedding reception. Dun, dun, dun. To be continued. Curt, she's not just punctual. She's punctual to a fault. And Niles is freaking out about it. Getting to see Niles all whipped up into a frenzy? Delightful, as always. More delightful. Frasier coming in and like everyone else was trying to calm him down. Frasier comes in and yes, Anzim Hari's like, oh my god, she is so punctual. This is bad. Yeah, he really needed you there, Ryan. A real no butter. Oh, yes. I thought you meant for the dropped Danish. What? You said no butter. I thought you were talking about the food item. We've been talking a lot of food tonight, Curt. Fair enough. When Marty and Frasier run and hide because Mel is arriving, Niles makes a point to say, don't let her see you. And then they do some of the worst hiding behind newspapers I've ever seen. Was it the worst or was it effective, Curt? It does seem to work. But also, I didn't quite understand why they were like hiding so poorly. But also, why do they need to hide? What is that part of it? Not abundantly clear why they needed to hide. But I think that they noticed that she had blind person sunglasses on and that they could get away with a very easy hide. Hmm. That's fair. And she is facing away from them. If I'd never met her before, I would have thought for sure she is blind with these. Yes. I thought maybe she was crying beforehand. So that's why she was trying to hide her face. Oh, that could be. Like, why does she own these sunglasses? Does she go out and buy sunglasses after crying like that, knowing that she'd be in public? Yeah. It's possible. Yeah. I guess. We don't know a lot about Mel. I get the impression she's kind of a socialite. She probably either comes from or has a lot of money or both. I would not be surprised if she's got a closet full of different occasional sunglasses. She's got to be rich. The way she slams the table and Niles drops his handkerchief but then catches it, like, that was something that comes from money. All right. I alluded to this earlier. That bang on the table she does when Niles upsets her, it was electric. I want so much more of this version of Mel. She seems like a fun kind of crazy that I could watch from the safety of my home very happily. And that makes me think that her type of crazy does not get along with Frasier, so I'm excited to see more of that type of crazy. This is a classic reverse order really helping here because she does not have this outburst for the rest of her run here, right? Like, this is her biggest moment. Yeah, she's very controlled otherwise. We've built up to this actually kind of nicely. You are kind of theorizing that Donnie is going to be mostly a very happy-go-lucky sweet guy going forward because he will not have been jilted. And I feel like we've got a better shot at seeing some of the crazy Mel come out because we know Frasier already doesn't like her and I'm just hopeful. I'm hopeful we'll get to see some more of a little of this. It's in play. It's definitely in play. So we talked in the last couple episodes about isn't Mel being crazy? How do you feel after seeing this? Did you feel like she laid out things fair and that things progressed fairly? Or do you think that she's still in the wrong? I don't remember my take before if I thought she was in the wrong necessarily, but... Well, even better. Let's capitalize on that. What do you think now? When you take into context exactly what actually happened, she runs away and elopes. This was not a long planned out thing. They get married seemingly on a whim of some kind. And presumably, I'm going to just guess, this was not Mel saying, let's go get married right now. I'm going to guess that Niles insisted they do it. And she went along with it. And four days later, her newlywed husband is leaving her at another wedding with that bride. What a public and crazy humiliating experience. I think, if anything, she has been unbelievably kind and easy on him. All right. So I completely reversed your stance. You're right. It is crazier than we expected. Speaking of crazy, how about Frasier and Marty so awkwardly just staring at them trying to fake read newspapers while they're talking? I loved how mad Frasier was. Isn't this all too typical? Niles leaves his wife for another woman. He gets a gift. I try to do the right thing. I get Mr. Chump in lawsuit. Like he's so mad. This is perfect. Yeah, because they can't hear what's happening. They just see her giving a gift. And they're theorizing that maybe she is not that upset. Yeah, because when they came back to the table, they're like, it's positive, right? Like they were thinking it was all going to be good. Nope. Turns out she just needs him to wear the watch because it's a gift that she wants shown off at all the socialite events they're going to be going to. Fair enough. One of our other biggest questions gets answered with the last line of the episode where we learn that friends are throwing them a reception. That's not a thing, is it? And no co-workers, I thought you said. I thought you said co-workers. That's the craziest part. Yeah, co-workers. I don't care who it is. A collective group of people are just like, oh, Mel's the best. Let's throw her a reception. How the hell do you go about that? I don't know. It also seems like it must be very short notice. I mean, if they got married four days ago and it's happening that night, if the wedding was on Saturday and this is the next, is this a Sunday night reception? Oh no. Oh no. That's crazy. That is crazy turnaround. Because if they had planned their own reception in four days, that would be impossible. But for co-workers to fill the together, I barely have phone numbers of my co-workers. There's a right proper wedding cake. Like they have the stuff you need. Is this just a service that the equestrian center offers? Just like last minute wedding? Brad, do you want to try to say equestrian today? Equestrian? Hey, you nailed it. That's pretty good. What a shock. I've been practicing. Sits in front of his mirror every day. Equestrian. Equestrian. And then he gets begrudgingly thrown at him out of nowhere. It might come up a little later, but yes, I'm all about equestrian now. No, I think so. The equestrian center is always ready to go. Oh, you think they just always have a cake on hand in case a young couple just shows up ready to get reception and not married? Mm-hmm. Another question. Do equestrian centers... I mean, I'm not rich enough for this. Do equestrian centers normally have a banquet hall? Yeah. A lot of times they'll have a really nice event place. Yes. What are you talking about? I'm not talking about your camp, dude. No, no, no. I've been to many equestrian centers. Oh, you haven't. You've not been to a single one. No, I spent the year traveling in my book called Brad the Equestrian Master. That's actually a great title for you. That's like the best title I've ever heard you come up with. Yeah. I visited equestrian centers in Utah, Massachusetts, Oregon. Okay. Okay. What is this? And oddly enough, Arkansas. I spent a lot of time in Arkansas. What a deviation from Alaska. Yeah. Frazier plays us out with the dark, empty apartment. We got the awkward apartment shots again. Yes. We were hoping. Was that the only one that thought something was going to happen? Like, I just, I thought something was going to pop out or something. Like, I don't know. Once we saw it, it should have been like, we've been here before. We've seen these shots. Start of seasons, they show random shots of a dark apartment for some reason. Well, Brad, did this random episode suit you? Yeah. So I'm going to give a confusing answer because I don't know how to do anything else. I would not say it's a good episode, but it is so bizarre. It's not real. Like, everything that happens would never really happen in real life. All right. Should we tell them? Should we tell them this is so fake? No. So at the end of the day, I'm going to give it a Brad score. And you know what? I did something I haven't done in a long time. I consoled the Council of Brads. Oh, I want a throwback. Actually, delighted to hear him. This was a random Brad that you guys probably don't know. Brad Kowzalski? Is he a NASCAR driver? Oh, just a random guy from your high school. Right. Oh, Brad Kowzalski? He's a race car driver, NASCAR? He helped me come up with this answer. I think you guys are going to be surprised by this one. I'm going to go with a B minus. If you ain't first, you're last. It just, it was fine. It wasn't like anything huge, but I do think it was a good season premiere slash season finale for us. And Curtis, where do you rank this one, buddy? I feel like the last episode we talked about, I ranked relatively high. And I feel like we struggled to even discuss. It was not a great discussion. This one has been a blast to discuss. And I did not like this episode. I ranked it 73 out of 106. 73 is low, I think. What's around it? I thought it was better than It Takes Two to Tangle. That's where Marty juggles women. Oh. But it was worse than The Babysitter where he meets Ronnie. Oh. Was that a bad episode? I don't know that it was a bad episode, but it was not like an amazing episode. I think that's one of those that me and you yell at Curtis, like, what are you doing? Probably. Probably. I think you're a little low on this one, but you both got the last one wrong, right? The last one was definitely worse. I don't know what's wrong with both of you. You were just excited to talk Frasier again. Last one was better. Oh, no. This one was certainly better. I gave this a 6.4. It was much better than the part two. And I think I liked a lot of the things they set up here, right? If you're starting the season, we've put a lot of pieces in place that are going to be very fun. Turns out they won't be as fun as you'd hope, but like they are pretty good. And I think this episode even helped make part two a little better. Not much better, but a little bit. You know, I feel like I get the instinct to do an hour long premiere, but we talked in both of these episodes about how some of the scenes are long and feel like they don't have that much meat on the bone. I feel like maybe if they'd condensed all this down to one 30 minute episode, it might have been better. Yeah, I definitely you take the best bits of both. And I think we'd be in a much better place or, you know, pay off the stuff we set up here a lot better rather than just be like, oh, Donnie gave up on stuff. Yeah, that probably is weighing on it, right? Like this is the setup of all the drama for this season and it'll all be wrapped up by episode like four. Well, and even Mel's ire starts off great here, right? And it's like it does kind of trickle down. Like it's it's pretty good next episode. And then we just don't we don't get the payoff that they've set up for both of them. Yeah. Also, I didn't think there's any standouts this episode. Frazier's probably the MVP. He's doing good work, but we've seen much better from everyone. This was this was a tough season opener, especially if you take the two together. Simon seems to be living in the Winnebago. But from what we see, it seems like the standards late 90s kind of humdrum drive. I thought we could come up with some ideas for how we would spruce it up and make it a bitchin place to hang. You remember Pimp My Ride? Let's play Bling My Bago. Oh, oh, OK. Surprisingly hip for you. I mean, yeah, I'm proud of you. Yeah. It's very uncurt like. So who wants to go first? Hmm. Brad. I'm happy to. OK, so I'm Brad. Hey, guys. Hey, guys. The theme, the only theme that would make any sense for any Winnebago is Maryland themed. The greatest state of all 50 states. Is that a theme? My theme is the state of Maryland and everything in it all makes sense. I have as many thoughts about Maryland, even though I've been there to visit Brad, as I do about Vancouver. Got it. So the outside, obviously the paint job is Maryland flag themed. We love our flag here in Maryland. We're putting our flag everywhere. Describe it more for me. Like, what do we. How are you doing this? The whole thing looks like a giant flag. You're saying like a vinyl wrapped. Yeah, exactly. I will say the Maryland flag is like the it's the only flag that if you looked at any small portion of it, you'd be like, oh, that's the Maryland flag because someone was on LSD and created this flag. Outside, obviously, we're going to have a TV. More outside. That's surprising. We're going to have a crab washing station because you have to always be ready when you go crabbing to have your crabs ready to be washed. I'm not all of a certain native Maryland. What's a crab washing station? What does that entail? Yeah, usually it's just like a board with a sink. You don't say usually, Brad. Tell us what's in your RV. It has a mallet. We're still on the outside, right? Yeah, it has mallets. It has knives. Yeah, it's just dangling off the like the mirror. He's got command hooks holding them up. No, no. You bring it down next to the TV. Obviously, there's a mini fridge outside. Where is the TV? Is the TV just attached to the side of the vehicle? Yeah, it's a closed compartment and then you open it up like when you park and you open up the RV and it's out there for an outdoor TV. I have no idea what you're talking about, but I want to interrupt because I have a problem with the crab washing station being so close to the TV. Why is that a good choice? Are you getting a lot of crab splatter onto this TV? It's so unneeded too. You have to be able to watch the TV when you're cleaning the crabs. That's part of the Maryland standard procedure. And then obviously there's an outdoor mini fridge with Maryland themed beers for breweries. Hold on. We're talking about the exterior. Are you talking about like the things you set up once you park or are you talking about like this is just like hanging on the side of the Winnebago? Do you know what an exterior is? Yeah. Winnebago is like a pastime of mine. You open it up and it's all there. Okay. What do you mean you open it up? You're describing it like it's a toy where you just pop it open. Exactly. It's like a poly pocket. You just take the roof off and there's all the stuff. Yep. Okay. And so now going to the interior, obviously everything is purple in honor of the Ravens, which is a Maryland sports team. Everything is purple. I thought they're the team whose name you can't say anymore. The interior is all purple. I feel like you should have switched it. I feel like outside being purple and inside being Maryland flag might have worked better. If you let him keep going, he would say there's no furniture inside. No. What's inside? There's a master bedroom. Obviously the bed is circle. You know, that has nothing to do with Maryland. That's more of a Brad thing. And we obviously have to have a circle bed. It's just clear. Well, you bump your knee on the corners. A hundred percent. So there is two cents of buck beds. Are we doing a business or are we just pimping it out? I thought, didn't we agree to do a business? I actually was going to do a business, but I don't think that was the plan. I think it was the plan verbatim, but okay. I didn't know that. He's selling crabs. Yeah, I'm selling crabs. That's my business. Yep. I'm a crabman. I give out crabs to people. It's a full service crab station. Because we're honoring Pimp My Ride, obviously it's going to have hydraulics and go up and down in honor of Pimp My Ride. Here's the crazy thing. And this is not one of those things that you can say like- It's a crazy thing. Well, you can't say like, oh, how is this possible? Because, you know, it just doesn't matter. The back of the Winnebago has enough room to put a horse to honor Maryland because our state sport is jousting on horses. That's our state sport. So we have enough room for horses in case there's ever a jousting event. I mean, I don't know if that's like physically impossible. It just doesn't make sense. No. And then, I mean, do you want to guess who my driver is, Ryan? I think it's pretty obvious, but do you want to guess? Joe Flacco. No, it's Ray Lewis. Yeah. See, now you want another great guy. Obviously, you want Ray Lewis driving your RV. You want a bingo. Yeah, I'm good with that. All right. Who wants to go next and try to beat me? I'm going to, I think, go next. Okay. Okay. I don't have the categories in front of me. Where are they? Brad kind of just walked through them pretty quickly. For the audience, I think it might be helpful to explain what we've broken this up as. So there are different categories for how we're breaking up our descriptions. The first one is the theme. What is going to be the theme, Ryan, for your Winnebago? Well, again, I thought we were doing business because that's what we said. So I decided to do a business. And it's going to be a mobile psychiatry unit. It's going to be, we're going to be called RV Feeling Better. So how do you follow that up? What's the exterior like? Are you feeling better? That's really, hold on. No, no, no. We're not moving past it. That's very funny. Thank you. The exterior, you know, like psychiatry is boring. We're going to, we're going to sexy it up a little bit on the outside because we're not doing the work on the outside, right? We're just going to make, it's going to be like a lot of neon. For some reason, it's going to be like black and people are going to be like, whoa, that is a sexy RV. And it's clearly a business. I wonder what's going on in there. And they just got, they got questions. I love, I love that in your mind, just seeing a party bago is like, oh man, that's got to be a business, right? I hope they have a business card I can take. I wonder if you just drive to a campsite with that RV. Something's got to be happening. Okay. But inside we got to do the work, right? We got to make, we got to have a calm, soothing environment. Like, yeah, it's exciting on the outside, but the insides, that's where we really get down to brass tacks. That's where we like, uh, so we do all the normal psychiatry stuff, like make a very beige room. I feel like it's always beige. Your business is, is what again? We're mobile psychiatry. We mobile psychiatry. And your, and your exterior is that you're going to have it be neon and party vibes. And then the interior is the neutral place from the good place. End of conversation. Yeah. Or I think I'm picturing like, like psychiatry offices we see in shows and stuff probably. But you know, it's calm. It's not supposed to excite you. The outside was supposed to excite you. The inside is we get, we get, we get to dive in. And also these aren't like our sessions. Like we're taking you on like a excursion to the woods for some reason, a darkness retreat, that kind of vibe. A dark. Hold on. Don't just say darkness retreat. Is that a real? Sorry. That's a football thing. Everyone else would get, sorry, Curt, just, just know that there was a guy who didn't get vaccinated and he solved his problems by going to the dark. It's all you need to know. I don't, I don't want to know more. So give me a little more detail about your interior. So it's, it's a little bit beige, but what else? Obviously most of it's like we're, we're focused on the couch. You know, there is going to have to be, I guess, two bedrooms for the psychiatrist and the psychiatry. I love, I love the idea that it's like, it's an RV. There's going to be a bedroom. But the focus of what we're doing here is that we're doing a couch because we know couches exist in psychiatry offices because people love laying down their thoughts. Is that why they're laying down? It's the laying down of the ponds. I assume so. I don't like, no one's really consulted me on the matter, but it makes sense. My best thoughts are right as I'm going to bed and they keep me up, you know? So I think laying down has something to do with that. I don't know. And then obviously there's a chair that the psychiatrist can focus on when the psycho, again, I don't know what those people are referred to as. Patient possibly? When the psycho patient's being boring, you got like, you got to have a nice chair, you know, to scribble in. By the way, did we establish this? Is, is this both a business and where you live? This isn't where you, because we're taking them on an excursion. So there has to be a bed element that we- I gotcha. I gotcha. Maybe there's camp. Maybe it's camping. Maybe it's all, maybe the interior is just a couch and a chair. Well, there'll be another element. Don't worry. So next up, mechanical. The idea here is like, it's a vehicle. So what would you do to sort of soup up the vehicle? Okay. So you, so Brad hit on hydraulics. You've heard of hydraulics. We know that they make the car go up and down to intimidate your rivals on the street, right? Similar. We're going to use hydraulic technology, but this will be to rock the patient, to make like a soothing motion. So it'll rock back and forth and like lure them into a calming sense where they can really be honest about themselves. If this RV is a knock-in, somebody's finding their bliss. Yes. We're doing work. I love the idea of a very slow rock. Like you, you, you think a very like aggressive, like on a road when it was driving, you're going to expect it to kind of like jostle around a little bit aggressively. But here, these were parked, which is a nice side to side. Yes. Yes. You get it. It's soothing. It's the exact thing that Brad hates. Yes. That's why he hates Cracker Barrel. Because he doesn't like those, the rocking chairs out front. I love a good chicken fried steak. I thought you were going to say he doesn't like the wooden games that they had from the old times. I love a good wooden game. All right. What's next? The special features. What have we not covered? Just where do you want to go crazy with it? What do you want to do extra? Mine was the room for the horse. Right. The room for the horse. Right. So mine isn't really crazy for an RV. Maybe it is. I don't know. But it's definitely crazy for a psychiatry office. And I don't know why. Clearly, if you can't get comfortable and share your thoughts laying down, where could you get comfortable and share your thoughts? That's right. In a hot tub. So we have a hot tub element. That's interesting. I mean, you've got space. You've got very little furniture in there. You know, you don't even have a table. We've got a hot tub. And the walls will have to be high to accommodate the rocking. I will say I appreciate how much you care about your patients. I just want them to do the work, you know? Yeah. And I don't want anything standing in their way. I want to go back to this because I don't know how I missed this when you were describing yours, Brad. Maybe I'm the fool here. You have a horse in your RV? He did say it was crazy. He said not to question how it could be. You missed that. Yep. Okay. All right. Well, finally, Ryan, who's driving your RV? Oh, look, if the psychiatrist can't do it, if the sofa can't do it, if the hot tub can't do it, then only one man can really, like, get through to you. Someone who's always focused on family, someone who's a great driver, it's Vin Diesel. Ah, the nipple crippler. Oh, you don't know what that means. I'm not allowed to know what that means. Right. I can't expand. Just know that that's a good answer. Yeah. Someday, we're going to get there. Right. Sorry. Curtis, how do you top me and Ryan? Because I don't think it's possible, but I'd like to see you try. So I also did a business, I thought I was going the wrong direction, because I didn't think we were supposed to do that, but apparently we were. You said you were rebelling and said you were just following the thing we agreed on. I mean, if I'm going to rebel, it's probably going to be following the rules. For my theme, I was thinking about, my husband is a fantastic cook. He often talks about what kind of a restaurant would he open if he were ambitious about doing so. And so what I think we can do here, we've got an opportunity, we can turn this recreational vehicle into a real moneymaker by opening a food truck with it. Oh, interesting, because, you know, lack of functioning window, but tell me more. Well, we'll get to that. But in the meantime, he does make genuinely good bagels. So the business will be called Winnebagels. Winnebagels, great. It is a good name. So what do you mean he makes good bagels? He makes some bagels from scratch? Can you even do that? He can. I can't. Like he takes like presumably flour or something and makes bagels? I will go down to the kitchen in the morning. We will have like a jar of flour and like a thing of sugar and like just a bunch of ingredients. And then after an hour, I'm eating a schmear on a bagel. It's fantastic. Bagels show up at an hour. It only takes an hour. Something like that. Well, OK, he's not actually making like traditional bagels. He's making yogurt bagels, I think they're called. It doesn't matter. What in the fuck? Yes, it does. What? It uses yogurt instead of milk, I think. I don't know. It doesn't matter. The business is winning bagels. So if you said that they're fantastic, like get down to Columbus. We do not have fantastic bagels, yogurt or otherwise. So get over here. I'm in. OK, well, maybe maybe we make that happen sometime soon. The exterior. So I figure first up, I don't want to do spinning rims. I want to go a little different. When you say spinning rims, do you mean just like a normal car or do you mean like spinners that they have on the streets? Yeah, well, I think that's where the traditional like if you were pimping a ride, that's probably what you'd go with. That's the thing you think of? That's surprising. That's interesting. Anyway, it doesn't matter. I'm not doing that. What I'm doing are fully black rims. And instead of black tires, I'm going to get light brown bagel colored tires. Oh, I love that. And then on one side of the Winnebago. The Winnebago. I'm all in on the name, by the way. You got to call it the Winnebago the whole time. There's a couple of windows and I think we're going to take those out. And then the kind of siding between the windows, we'll take that out and we will install a giant window that when we park will kind of, again, hydraulics, it will open up into a canopy for serving guests. I think you described regular parts of an RV, but strangely. What's different than normal RV? Well, so the window's bigger and it opens up and is now able to shade you from rain and sun while you stand waiting for your bagels. Almost all RVs have a canopy element, Curt. Well, I don't have an RV. I'm not fancy pants like you. You thought that was the innovation that a canopy? Yes, I did. These people camp out with these things, Curt. There's canopies in RVs. Okay, but I'm saying my canopy is made of glass and it opens up and replaces the window. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what? Yeah, because there's one giant window on one side, but when you're driving, you need a window, right? But when you're not driving, you open that window and it becomes the canopy that you stand under to order your food. So you don't use a normal awning. Your window is becoming the ceiling of this. Yes. So that's wild. And necessary. Is it floor to ceiling? Tell me more about this window. It's a tinted window. I don't know what you want. Which window are we going with? The side or back? Side. Side. I don't think they're normally tinted, but anyway, in inches exactly. How big is this window? Three feet tall. Eight feet long. It's like a shitty canopy, right? Yeah. Like a barely one. But you know it works. Bagels are small, so I think it works. It covers exactly like one person. Yeah. If they have a significant other, I think they're out in the rain. And it doesn't cover sun because it's glass. Oh, it's tinted though. But it's tinted. Right. You did emphasize that. That's why, you're right, they don't usually come tinted. I'm adding the tint. That's one of my additions. Each mechanism is strange though. I think it's time to move on to the interior. I could hang on to that window talk for a while. I think that's crazier than Brad's horse proof. Obviously, we're going to trick out the kitchen with some bakery shit. That's a no brainer. What I want to focus on though is the bathroom. Because the bathroom on this thing, I will be upgrading so that it looks exactly like the powder room man cave that we built just a few weeks ago. Because all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. Like, yeah, I'm going to work my ass off on these bagels. But then, you know, it's time to relax in that powder room man cave. Brad, we got a powder room alert. I need definitely a high power nerve gun. I like the wood. There's something about the wood. I'm just trying to think how we can work more tubes into this bathroom situation. Oh, so you're taking the man cave we created, but not the Fraser powder room. The one we tricked out. Yes. Our powder room man cave. That's going to be inside of this Winnebago. There's space. Okay. There's no space, but okay. I love it. In terms of the mechanical, like what are we going to do to the engine? Oh, is that what you thought when you said mechanical, what you meant? Yes. What are you going to do to the engine? I explained it multiple times. What do you know about engines? I figure this thing is a boat. It is going to eat gas. I don't want to be stopping for gas every 10 minutes, every 100 feet, right? So I'm going to turn this into kind of a steampunk engine. We're going to use the runoff steam from boiling, the boiling part of making a bagel, and that is going to power the engine and drive this bus. That's not why they call it steampunk. We would like to thank Curtis for, again, telling us how much he does not know about cars. So thank you for continuing to follow that dream. This would work. How are you capturing the steam? There's a vent overhead of the stove. It's enough steam to run an engine after you've stopped boiling things. Somehow it collects energy. Maybe there's a battery. I don't know. I'm not a scientist. It's not a battery, right? It's just like a little steam container. I don't know how steam engines work. That doesn't sound right, though. Well, we'll move past it. My special feature. Besides fixing the environment with all your steam engine. The only reason the world hasn't made all cars this way is because who's got time to make bagels? It's only an hour. As we've said, all of us need to have a bedroom. All of us need a bed. And you've heard of a day bed. How about a day old bed? That's right. All of my bed is made out and constructed entirely of unsold day old bagels. Every day you have to redo your bed? Yeah, I was confused there as well. You're rebuilding it constantly? You're rebuilding it every day? Excuse me? You guys don't make your bed? No. Build your bed. You're going to build your bed? Yeah, it makes it. That's great. Also, I love how little hope you have for this business. You're like, we're going to make a fuckload of bagels and sell like none of them. I figure it might take a couple weeks before you've got a full bed from the unsold bagels. And at that point, you're just taking out the oldest ones and putting in the newer ones. You'll grow to appreciate the fully formed bed, too, because you'll have gotten used to like a two bagel size. It's really hard to talk about this. It all makes sense. There's not language for this, Curt. Well, I think we should talk about maybe the most important part of this whole thing, which is who's going to be driving this. I'm going to hire Gillian Jacobs to reprise her character of Britta from Community to drive us around and attract customers for her world famous bagels. I lived in New York, Troy. I know what a bagel is. So win a bagel. And that's my win a bagel. That was fantastic, Curt. Great job. You beat us. Best job you've ever done on one. Way to bring it for a season finale. Yep. Had to try. Well, Ryan, are they going to try? Why don't you tell us what we should expect next time when we cover the previous episode at Season 7, Episode 24, Something Borrowed, Something Blue, Part 2. I gotta tell you, I've never been more excited for an episode. I think this is gonna be top to bottom fireworks. Nine out of ten episode. I cannot wait. I think at this point I can only be let down. No predictions. I just can't wait to see what happens. Presumably we won't have to wait very long, you know, because it's just one more episode one week away. But I guess we'll find out after the wrap-up of this season what we're gonna be doing afterward. But it'll probably just be Season 7, right? Weird tease. Weird tease. Love it. That will do it for us. Thanks to Gavin McLeod for our theme music and thank you for listening. I suppose you don't really care if this podcast is successful. You would never take five minutes out of your precious day to go to Apple Podcasts and leave us a review. You don't use Facebook, YouTube, or Instagram, or TikTok. You aren't curious what happens if you search for Reverse Psych Pod. Lord knows you can't be bothered to shoot us an email at reversepsychpod at gmail.com. For myself, for Ryan, and for Brad, good morning, Noah. Niles, who's, or, uh, what's his face? Who's very good at physical acting. I almost said Neil deGrasse Tyson. What's wrong with you? Neil deGrasse, not even a three-name. Oh, he is. First, I was confusing him for Neil Patrick Harris. And then I got converted to Neil deGrasse Tyson. You're getting the Niles confused now. They were very similar.