Coots and Ladders

Host, introducing the mystery guest.

Resident upside downer: “Coot, coot, ca-choo to you, Curtis.”

Mystery guest; good looking, single and ready to mingle, with third-person banter.

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Welcome to Reverse Psychology, the Frasier Rewatch podcast where we go backwards through every episode of the show. Tonight, we are covering Season 11, Episode 17, Hoots and Ladders. Is this the time Frasier plays Clue while everyone else is playing Snakes and Ladders? We'll find out. I'm your host, Curtis Schack. Joining me as always, it's our resident upside downer. It's Ryan Sansone. Cout, coot, ca-choo to you, Curtis. Also with us today, our mystery guest. Ooh, I wonder who it is. Whoever it is, I'm sure he's very good looking, very single, and very ready to mingle. Well, he speaks in the third person, so we don't like him. He just knows how to be suave and stylish. Does he? He sometimes needs to be reminded just to stop talking, but yes.

Someone brought rules.

The games, the premises, and what everyone brought to the table.

Game / activity

Fictional crime pitches ↗

Led by Ryan

How this one works

Setup and instructions

name the lady and the crime
propose to pitch fake crimes
fictional ladies but I will accept at least one of those two answers. It could be book. It could be an artwork. It could be your imagination.

Context and recorded outcome

Activity premise: propose to pitch fake crimes Activity request: name the lady and the crime Rules: fictional ladies but I will accept at least one of those two answers. It could be book. It could be an artwork. It could be your imagination.

RESULT STATUS

The recorded result is unresolved.

No explicit participant winner or final tie is established in the reviewed record.

What was recorded

What everyone brought to the table · 1 recorded contribution

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Attribution unavailable

crime wrap

Ending or payoff: Well, I guess we should talk about this episode then. I regret nothing.

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crime round

Interaction mode: name the lady and the crime Answer qualification: but I will accept at least one of those two answers.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Brad(ley)

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is there any old ladies that you guys would like to commit a crime against, specifically

Question / challenge

Prompt: is there any old ladies that you guys would like to commit a crime against, specifically Prompt item: fictional ladies Activity request: name the lady and the crime Rules: but I will accept at least one of those two answers.

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Respondent: Brad

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

crime guest submission

Choice: Cruella de Vil Action: put her in a tank and have piranhas eat her. Answer qualification: I'm not a hundred percent sure if she is an old lady because she did terrible things to dogs. like evil dogs in the water, so why not? Response context: It can be TV show, movie, anything, right? But I, so I have to say the crime I would do?

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RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Curtis

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Well, how about you, Curtis? What old lady would you like to commit a crime

Question / challenge

Prompt: Well, how about you, Curtis? What old lady would you like to commit a crime

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WHAT THEY BROUGHT

crime curtis submission

Choice: Lucille Bluth from Arrested Development Action: a crime of passion status: SUPERSEDED; action: a crime of passion Response status: REVISED Answer qualification: I'm going to change my answer to Lucille Bluth from Arrested Development. Oh, you ruined my punchline. Response context: Yeah, I mean, I know you gave us this question ahead of time, but I did not understand it and did not prepare for it, even if I did understand it. So... Because, because... Phrase attribution: that’s my bad: Curtis

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RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Ryan

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I want to hear your kind of... what the correct answer was, let's say.

Question / challenge

Prompt: I want to hear your kind of... what the correct answer was, let's say. Final phrase attribution: Who asks Ryan for “what the correct answer was”? Curtis’s “That’s my bad” is already confirmed.: Curtis

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Facilitator: Curtis

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crime ryan submission

Choice: Abuela Response context: Encanto Action: I'd like to kidnap her and drop her off... I want to drop her off into the middle of a town, nowhere near anyone she knows, so that she can recognize just how worthless she is. Answer qualification: I don't want her to be, like, in danger. I just want her to understand that she relies on her family too much, and she's way too hard on Mirabelle. Abuela sucks.

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Respondent: Ryan

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Facilitator: Ryan
Respondents: Brad Curtis Ryan

Game / activity

Deddy do or Deddy don’t ↗

Led by Ryan

How this one works

Setup and instructions

In this episode that you just watched, did he do or did he don't?
I want to test your psychic abilities.

Context and recorded outcome

Activity premise: I want to test your psychic abilities. Activity request: In this episode that you just watched, did he do or did he don't? Prompt term: Eddie Adjudication: as far as I could tell, you are correct. Title: Deddy do or Deddy don’t

RESULT STATUS

The recorded result is unresolved.

No explicit participant winner or final tie is established in the reviewed record.

What was recorded

What everyone brought to the table · 1 recorded contribution

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Attribution unavailable

eddie wrap

Response context: And is that because he's not actually part of the show? So clearly he was a figment of Frazier's imagination one time.

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eddie round

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Ryan

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In this episode that you just watched, did he do or did he don't?

Question / challenge

Prompt: In this episode that you just watched, did he do or did he don't? Prompt term: Eddie

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RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

eddie answer

daddy don't Answer qualification: I think he's been in exactly one episode. I am decently, I'm somewhat, I'm a tiny bit confident that daddy don't. Yes, Regis, final answer. Response context: I've really fallen into a false sense of security here. We didn't check in last time, right? Adjudication verdict: correct Result qualification: as far as I could tell

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Was that your final answer?

Question / challenge

Question: Was that your final answer?

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

eddie result

Adjudication verdict: correct Correct answer: I did not see Eddie in this episode. Result qualification: as far as I could tell Final phrase attribution: Who says “as far as I could tell, you are correct” in Deddy do or Deddy don’t? The questioner and title are already confirmed.: Curtis

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Adjudicator: Curtis

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Respondent: Ryan
Facilitator: Curtis

Game / activity

Next-episode prediction: Boo ↗

Led by Ryan

How this one works

Setup and instructions

let us know what we can expect next week when we cover the previous episode
season: 11; episode: 16; title: Boo

Context and recorded outcome

Activity request: let us know what we can expect next week when we cover the previous episode Prompt item: season: 11; episode: 16; title: Boo Result qualification: we can't address in the moment whether it's accurate or not.

RESULT STATUS

The recorded result is unresolved.

No explicit participant winner or final tie is established in the reviewed record.

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forecast round

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Ryan

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Why don't you let us know what we can expect next week when we cover the previous episode,

Question / challenge

Prompt: Why don't you let us know what we can expect next week when we cover the previous episode, Prompt item: season 11, episode 16. Boo!

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WHAT THEY BROUGHT

forecast submission

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Submission type: Prediction for Boo. Response context: Uh, happy to. It's Halloween in Seattle. Niles has decided that this is the year he is putting his foot down. No more Halloween. Frazier, bored with absolutely no social life, sets out to convince Niles that spirits are real. Martin and Ronnie enjoy some spirits of their own, dressed for the occasion before running into Frazier. When Ronnie is in the powder room, Martin tries to convince Frazier to put on his costume to dupe his fiancé. Roz takes Daphne shopping, I guess. Phrase attribution: happy, addressed to Curtis; prediction: Ryan

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Comic bits and episode moments.

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intro ↗

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Activity description: Welcome to Reverse Psychology, the Frasier Rewatch podcast where we go backwards through every episode of the show. Tonight, we are covering Season 11, Episode 17, Hoots and Ladders. Is this the time Frasier plays Clue while everyone else is playing Snakes and Ladders? We'll find out. I'm your host, Curtis Schack. Joining me as always, it's our resident upside downer. It's Ryan Sansone. Cout, coot, ca-choo to you, Curtis. Also with us today, our mystery guest. Ooh, I wonder who it is. Whoever it is, I'm sure he's very good looking, very single, and very ready to mingle. Well, he speaks in the third person, so we don't like him. He just knows how to be suave and stylish. Does he? He sometimes needs to be reminded just to stop talking, but yes. Identity clarification: Curtis introduces the mystery guest. The record confirms that guest is Brad, despite no explicit name in this passage; subsequent banter mocks Brad speaking in the third person.

Taking part: Curtis Ryan

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Participants: Curtis Schack Ryan Sansone mystery guest

Conversation excerpt

Did they say what sport she won the Olympic gold bronze? ↗

Question: Did they say what sport she won the Olympic gold bronze? I keep saying running. So it must be running. I don't, I don't recall. Result qualification: I don't, I don't recall. Response context: And none of us chose to commit a crime against her.

Conversation excerpt

ratings ↗

Activity request: was this a good episode? Method: Three different perspectives, three different rating systems. Handoffs: to Brad: Curtis; challenge to Brad: Ryan; to Curtis: Ryan; to Ryan: Brad

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What everyone brought to the table · 10 recorded exchanges

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RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Brad(ley)

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Brad, was this a good episode?

Question / challenge

Prompt: Brad, was this a good episode?

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Participant cited: Brad(ley)

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So you give ratings based on the, how impactful it is to the overall storyline. You're not going for just the funny.

Question / challenge

Prompt: So you give ratings based on the, how impactful it is to the overall storyline. You're not going for just the funny.

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Facilitator: Ryan

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

rating brad answer

I thought it was mid level episode. Like the storylines were kind of dumb. I thought it was actually one of the funniest ones we've seen so far. Scores: B minus Method: I take everything into consideration. Acting. Choreography. the type of, the, the type of coffee

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Participant cited: Brad(ley)

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But what specifically would you give the choreography?

Question / challenge

Prompt: But what specifically would you give the choreography?

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RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

rating choreography answer

B plus. Scores: subject: the choreography in this episode; rating: B plus Phrase attribution: rating question and choreography echo: Curtis; immediate challenge: Ryan; good question; thank you: Brad

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Participant cited: Curtis

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Curtis, Curtis, it's your turn.

Question / challenge

Prompt: Curtis, Curtis, it's your turn.

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Respondent: Curtis

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

rating curtis answer

I did not love this one. a lot of the jokes require, I think, really shaky story and character beats. I actually ranked this eight out of eight. Scores: rank: 8; comparisonSetSize: 8; interpretation: liked the least Result qualification: This is the one I think I liked the least.

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Participant cited: Ryan

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What did you think?

Question / challenge

Prompt: What did you think?

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Respondent: Ryan

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

rating ryan answer

Scores: currentEpisode: 8.3; previousEpisodeRevised: 8.1; previousEpisodeOriginal: 8.3 Answer qualification: I'm going to try hard not to give it a bump because Charlotte's not involved. It helps that we, we recognize the real main characters, which I think is the brother relationship.

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RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

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ratings wrap

Method: Three different perspectives, three different rating systems. Response context: you're reducing the previous episode to an 8.1.

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Respondents: Brad Curtis Ryan

Conversation excerpt

forecast feedback ↗

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Adjudication: you don't even know how to count backwards in the seasons and recognize that we're nowhere close to Halloween. Result qualification: We haven't even seen a Christmas episode in this season that we're working backwards from. Response context: I don't know when, I don't know when this show starts. Maybe they do it off cycle, I don't know. In Ryan's, in Ryan's defense, he did ask us if each season had 12 episodes. Scope clarification: Curtis says they are nowhere close to Halloween. This is feedback about the prediction and is not part of Ryan’s prediction itself. Final phrase attribution: Who says “In Ryan’s defense, he did ask us if each season had 12 episodes”? Curtis’s Halloween criticism and the feedback’s placement are already confirmed.: Brad Resolved phrase speakers: Who says “In Ryan’s defense, he did ask us if each season had 12 episodes”? Curtis’s Halloween criticism and the feedback’s placement are already confirmed.: Brad

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outro ↗

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outtakes ↗

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retrospective ↗

With Ryan

Activity description: take a look at how accurate your projections were. Result qualification: I'm not going to mention the things where you missed Phrase attribution: asks evaluations: Curtis; shooed that lady: Ryan; Niles and Daphne married: Curtis

What was recorded

What everyone brought to the table · 4 recorded contributions

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

recap work

you guessed that Fraser would go to work happened. Adjudication verdict: the things you did get right

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Claimant: Ryan

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

recap roz

you guessed that Roz is going to ask him why he came to work. Adjudication: We had a version of that with her doing his job for him. Result qualification: This one's a bit of a stretch

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RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

recap vermin

Niles would be ridding an apartment of vermin Adjudication: which didn't quite happen either. He shooed that old lady off of a metal. So that's pretty close. Result qualification: This is another kind of a stretch.

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RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

recap ladder

you said it'd be Daphne there would be someone on a ladder in this episode. Adjudication: person: incorrect; ladderPresence: correctly guess Result qualification: And Niles is married to Daphne. So that's a pretty close call.

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Claimant: Ryan

By way of goodbye.