Some Assembly Required

Context outside the activity. Segment type: introductions and retrospective discussion Response context: The list I sent Hannah way back when does not have this episode on it. Reviewed full source context: Welcome to Reverse Psychology, the Fraser Rewatch podcast where we go backwards through every episode of the show. Tonight, we're covering season 10, episode 19, Thumb Assembly Required, which originally aired on April 1st, 2003. Is this whole show an elaborate April fools? We'll find out. I'm your host, Curtis Schack. Joining me as always, it's our resident upside downer, the Trine Sansone. Curtis, hello. Hello. Also with us today is our citizen officer, it's Bradley Kirkston. That's what I get caught in high school. What up, homies? You all missed me and I'm back for another great episode. Catch you later. I called you a citizen officer in high school. What do you mean? Yeah, you know, just because that's what I did. No, I don't know. I arrested people that did the wrong thing. I prefer the original version where you said hi and then said you were leaving. You don't have to stick around. But we do have with us today a very special returning guest. It's my other brother, Ethan. Yeah, the other brother. It's a great way to speak. Is that your preferred way? We've talked before. We know Curtis is the other brother and he's just projecting. But who do you feel is the other brother? You know, let's not get into it. Curtis, it's Curtis. No, he would say it to my face if it was me. He knows Kenny listens. He's not here to defend himself. So yeah. Well, Ethan, I want to start by asking you, you wanted to join this episode. So we're all wondering, was this in the top 51? Yeah, no, we have to talk about the top 51. I don't think we've addressed it yet, right? You're referring to the list that was made for introducing? Yes, like everyone does. They collected a list of their top 51 episodes and presented to her in order. It started with like, these are the highlights and everything. And then I had to go back and actually add a number of episodes in order for major plot points to make sense. Because I had forgotten like, oh yeah, you these episodes are required in order to understand what happens toward the end of the series. Okay. How many would you say roughly were like plot point episodes? Maybe five, like a handful or so. Yeah, so we're like top 46 of just your faves. 46 is even a weirder number, I think. Part of me is saying it wasn't, but let me... Like we can round, you know, I will give you better for the maybe it was like 8, 10, whatever, for plot point. So far we haven't seen any plot point episodes, so I don't know what you mean, but I assume there will be some. The list I sent Hannah way back when does not have this episode on it. Oh, okay. Okay. This is something that I went back through to figure out what did I want to volunteer for. I was like, oh, I could do that one. By the way, this does count as volunteer or community service. Absolutely. And I need it. Yeah, it actually counts as service learning hours. We're educating you, so it's a service learning hour. That doesn't sound right. I signed the paperwork. I'm a notary. I'm the only one that's authorized to do that. This is even crazier. You did 40, let's say 40 to 45 episodes of your favorites. This one, not even on it. And obviously it's not a plot point episode. Yeah. So how did you collect... What am I doing here? Yeah. We're all wondering why we're here all the time. That's fine. We can live in that existential nightmare forever. What I need to know is how you collected 40 episodes. Like what was your process? My process was pulling up the episode list on IMDb. And if I recognize the title, which wasn't necessarily the case for the vast majority. I would hope not. If you knew like all 11 seasons of Frasier based off title, that'd be madness. Yeah. Those titles are insane. Some of them. So that'll be even more impressive. I mean, you gotta be writing and you go to the convention. Frasier Khan. Yeah. I assume the Connie's are like, they know it by episode number, season episode number. You don't have to give them the title. It would be funnier if they're like, I don't know the titles, but it was season six, episode seven. That's what I would do. Actually, I genuinely think I would do that. It's easier to approximate where something happened in the storyline. Anyway, sorry. Continue. Oh, I read the synopsis real quick and be like, oh, I recall that one and it's great. Well, so like, okay. So like, let's say you're going through season one, right? Like you, you see maybe six episodes. You're like, I think I remember those ones. Let me get the synopsis or did you synopsis all of the episodes? Well, not at all, because first of all, I had five episodes from season one. It's a good sign. But yeah, just the blurb just to be like, okay, that's what it was about. And I recall that plot point. And that one was probably good. Uh, that one was probably good. Or that one was, uh, an all time classic. How long had it been since you'd watched Frasier when you put this list together? Like, had you just finished it or it had been like 12, like 20 years? I think it was within a couple of years. I had seen episodes growing up. I didn't watch it like religiously or anything. And then, uh, at some point it was like, oh, I'll watch through the whole thing. And I did that as an adult at some point in my twenties. Cause I had so many things going on. And then, uh, I, I put together the lists to introduce a Tana since we were, you know, sharing TV shows. And she did the same with, uh, Gilmore girls to introduce that to me. I'm assuming you didn't just assign this to her like homework. You, you watched them with her, correct? Correct. We watched them together and well, she watched them and I watched her watch them. That's how that works. Oh, that's creepy. Yeah. Only one person can watch the TV in their house at any time. I know that rule. And like, I did start watching it with her and just had her recorded so that I could watch back and see how she reacted. Oh, that's not creepy at all. Yeah. Cause then you can rewind if she has a big reaction. That's great. I mean, that makes sense. Of course, the man I hired to record her, he wasn't always available. So it was, it was tough to get through it. You, uh, have, uh, compiled this list based on like summaries. You have remember some of these episodes. Were there any that you watched that you were like kind of disappointed or just kind of like embarrassed that you put it on the list or that you totally got wrong. Like you were watches like, Oh, mistook that one completely. There was, there was at least one when I sent to Curt and I realized after the fact, Oh, I, I totally jumped to conclusions and thought that was an episode I liked and it was not. Was it some assembly required? Was it? No, no. This one. Did he say you were doing a Frasier podcast? You thought he was talking about cheers? Yeah. I was mixing it up with like several cheers episodes. I'm looking through to see if there's one that like picks out as like, actually that one wasn't very good. And no, I have great taste. Well, there's like this, there's like this one. Well that again, this did not make the top list. Oh, right. Sorry. Right, right, right. Which means I feel like we're going to hear later why he picked it, which that will be interesting. Well, Ethan, you're willing to discuss it. Should we discuss it? No. Yes. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Segment type: informal pronunciation practice Prompt term: Nervosa Response context: To catch you up, he doesn't know how to pronounce Nervosa for some reason. Context outside the activity. Reviewed full source context: Okay, I'll try it. Yep. At Nervosa. Nope. Nervosa. Nervosa. Nervosa. Nervosa. Okay, I feel like you're getting into this title. No, Nervosa. Nervosa. To catch you up, he doesn't know how to pronounce Nervosa for some reason. Nervosa. It takes me a long time to get there. He lost it about 26 episodes into this podcast. Yeah. Just started? Yeah, nowhere. He tried to say it three times in one episode. He kind of got Beetlejuiced. It's been a whole thing since. Yeah, I got the nips. The yips, you idiot. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I guess I'll just edit that out. I got the yips. The yips suck. No, no, no. I got the cheese nips. No, we do. That's not the nips you're talking about. I've got the nips.

Segment context: retrospective result and future activity discussion Preserved conversation context only. Prompt proposition: which episode we would discover the mom started working at Nervosa Answer: Episode 17. Correct answer: This is episode 19. Adjudication verdict: Too bad. Response context: It'll be like, you'll be doing your previous preview at the end of the episode, and it'll be like a perfect summary. Reviewed full source context: So finally, going back to this episode, we finally know how Gertrude started working there. Well, I think this is the right time to call back from the upside down. Ryan, you made a prediction of which episode we would discover the mom started working at Nervosa. Correct. Okay. This is episode 19. Your guess. Episode 17. You were so numb. Too bad. Close only counts in hand grenades and the... Horshy. Horshy. Thank you. Thank you. Give the yips for everything? You were caught on. You almost had it. Teamwork makes the team work. That almost counts in phraseology, too. Man. Yeah, I'm hunting in. I'm hunting in on these writers. By season one, I'll be able to predict every episode. It'll be scary. It'll be like, you'll be doing your previous preview at the end of the episode, and it'll be like a perfect summary. I'll just do the whole plot line. I'll do the blurbs. Well, we got a couple episodes until season one, so we got plenty of time. You know what else I'll do? I'll revert. I'll pick out the 51 episodes Ethan picked out. Oh, that would be impressive.

Segment type: episode opinions and personal ratings Competition adjudication competition established: False Segment context: non game structured review Reviewed full source context: Ethan, did you think this was a good episode? Honestly, I enjoyed it more than I expected. I knew I just wanted to get to that Niles portion at the end, but we're calling back to Frasier's plotline. I thought it was not as grating and infuriating as I remember it. You know, obviously the whole point is... No, I need you to expand on that. Do you mean... Well, I just mean that it had more funny moments than I thought. It wasn't just I was sitting there waiting for that part to end. Because it was grating and infuriating, but yeah, it was also... Yeah, and that was the intent. Frasier overstays his welcome. But there was enough to it that I was like, oh, this is actually a decent episode all around and not just... And I even enjoyed the Gertie and Daphne stuff in this one, as opposed to just being, you know, waiting for the Niles show, which was still the main event. For this episode, it was four out of seven rat turds. Ah, I love it. And you can interpret that system however you wish. Well, I like eating hot dogs, so I'm going to interpret it very positively. Yeah, but it's just the turds. I don't know about all that. Interesting. I like the scale. If you have rat turds, hot dogs can't be far behind. Brad, you're a turd. What did you think of this episode? Thank you. Great transition. I was not a fan of this episode. Couple of things. One is still not even sure what the A-plot was. Don't even know what the A-plot was. I think this was the best example of which one is the A-plot. I agree. But I don't think that's a problem, but I don't know which one it is. It's a problem to me. One is I'm sick and tired of these episodes with 45 scenes. I did not think this episode was that funny. I was not a fan of it. I'm going to give it one of my lowest grades of all time. And I'm going to give it a D-plus. Wow. Do you think he was doing B-plus just as a ruse? D-plus. D as in donut. I'll say, Brad, you're right. As soon as I finished this episode, really halfway through, I was like, oh, Brad's not going to like this. They're really sticking in season 10 with this idea of a ton of tiny scenes, which was just not how it was in season 11. I think at this point we have to accept this is what season 10 is. I don't think we're going to get a lot of long scene episodes. It's going to be a lot of little scenes. I don't have to accept anything, Curtis. Yeah, he doesn't have to accept anything, Curtis. This is America. Yeah. And on that note, Curtis, what do you think of the episode? So the last episode we recorded, I was confronted with my system of ranking the episodes. And I took your advice. You wrote Kevin and then you thought about it for 10 seconds. I was on a tear of making every single episode I saw ranked number seven out of whatever. And so I took a cold, hard look at my rankings and I agree that I was off. A quick summary of the changes I made. The top five haven't changed. I moved that placeholder episode with Julia that you noted. I wish to God you would have said the top six didn't change. It was just seven on. It almost was that. But I moved that. Faceholder is in the top six. That is number six on the list. Lucky number seven now is Miss Right Now, the Jennifer Tilly episode. That wasn't top seven? No, it was higher. It was like number five or six. Oh, okay, okay, okay. The Julia Saga, which before was all basically lumped together. It is still lumped together. Those episodes are the same. And I've moved them way down though. They were all like seven, eight, nine, 10. Now they're episodes 17 through 21. It's a really pointless and boring part. There we go. That's much better. The Devil and Dr. Phil, which I ranked dead last. I'll soften to it a little bit. It's now second to last. In last place, Freudian Sleep takes its rightful place at the bottom. There you go, buddy. Look what happens when you try. With that in mind, I'm ranking this episode 14 out of 30. Really thought you were going to say seven. I thought he was too. Again, there are so many ways I wanted to make that joke with this, but there was no way to do that without losing track of what my real opinions are. So I just went ahead and played it straight. So this is not as good as the weight loss episode, but better than first episode where Maris returns where Frazier's in like private practice. But very middle of a pack episode. It was fine. I thought it was funny. It was good, but not any special. It did have weight loss vibes, right? Like a lot of the same pacing, a lot of the jumping to this scene where this place we're not used to being. Yeah. Yeah. Frazier being a weirdo. Yeah. I could see that. Well, Ryan, finally, from the upside down, tell us, what do you think? Yeah. I think I'm with Ethan, whereas as I was watching it, I didn't like a lot of the scene because it's Frazier being annoying. It's Niles being annoying. But they are funny and they do land really nicely. I think they built a really strong Niles moment. Maybe my favorite Niles episode even, which I didn't see coming in the beginning of this episode. And Frazier is super annoying, but he actually gets comeuppance, which we don't get much of either. We got limited usage, Marty, him being six, hilarious. Roz is just keeping Frazier in check. Daphne's pretty good and putting her mother in place. You got a lot of people firing. I think this is much better than you two are giving the credit for. I think the setups are good. The jokes are fine. I'm here for it. Give me a seven. Maybe seven to one. Oh, I bet that was a play on me. Yeah. It was a little bit of fuck you, Curt. Also my score. You know I love it when we don't agree. We don't have to try. We can just do whatever and say seven. It's fine. No, that's about where I put it, though. It's nowhere near our top of the line, but it's also nowhere near the bottom. Great.

Scores: rank: 14; total: 30; scope: current episode in personal ranking Answer: But very middle of a pack episode. It was fine. I thought it was funny. It was good, but not any special. Response context: discourseRole: retrospective personal ranking revisions; clauses: The top five haven't changed. That is number six on the list. Lucky number seven now is Miss Right Now, the Jennifer Tilly episode. Now they're episodes 17 through 21. It's now second to last. In last place, Freudian Sleep takes its rightful place at the bottom. Answer qualification: So I just went ahead and played it straight.

Segment type: noncompetitive participatory information segment Title: Just before lunch Activity premise: Well, as Niles wowed children by telling them the gross shit allowed to be in our food, I am going to take over for him. Method: So we're going to go through, we'll take turns. Each of you can pick your favorite item that you want to hear. And I will tell you what the action level is, what the defects could be. Competition adjudication competition established: False Reviewed full source context: Well, as Niles wowed children by telling them the gross shit allowed to be in our food, I am going to take over for him. Curtis. And I... What the fuck am I looking at here? What is this? So I have gone online where you can trust everything. Actually, I think this is the FDA's website I'm on. I've got their list of exactly what Niles was recounting. The active level of defect in food. Are you talking about this is a list of everything that the FDA allows for Ratchet to have in it? No. What you are looking at is the list of products that the FDA has included in this table on their website where they tell you... Did you take your favorite 51 things? No, that's a comprehensive list. Such a long list. We don't... So long. Let me explain. So... Also, do you understand what the reason... Why you would bold something? It's all bolded. Oh, that's just because I was... It copied paste. So allspice ground. That is the first entry on this list. On that, it says of insect filth, an average of 30 or more insect fragments per 10 grams. For rodent filth, average of one or more rodent hairs per 10 grams. Hey, I'm sorry. We didn't cover this enough in the episode. What? Is it... Can we have that much insect and that much rodent filth? Uh, I believe so. It's a cap per filth, right? There's no like accumulative filth? Yeah, I think it's just about the specific filth. Is that too much of that? It's not like rat counts as two, insect counts as one, and we can add up a total. It's like, you can have this much per category? Oh my god. Yes. Okay. This is about to be a nightmare. No, this allspice is all filth, but it's worse filth. It says, The FDA set these action levels because it's economically impractical to grow, harvest, or process raw products that are totally free of non-hazardous, naturally occurring, unavoidable defects. Products harmful to consumers are subject to regulatory action, whether or not they exceed the action levels. What? What was the last part? It is incorrect to assume that because the FDA has an established defect action level for a food commodity, the food manufacturer need only stay just below that level. The defect levels do not represent an average of the defects that occur in any of the products. The averages are actually much lower. The levels represent limits that the FDA will regard a food product adulterated and subject to enforcement action under Section 402A3 of the Drug Food and Cosmetics Act. I'm sorry. What do we mean by adulterated? Like, you can have it as if you're older than 18? Or it's come of age? I want to hear more things and things. Yeah. I'm just sure I do. I was fine with this segment when you said it. I'm more nervous now that you've teed it up. So you've got a list of every product they have these action levels for. So we're going to go through, we'll take turns. Each of you can pick your favorite item that you want to hear. And I will tell you what the action level is, what the defects could be. My strategy here is going to be to like eliminate some things I don't want to eat anyway. Ooh, that's fun. Okay. You know what? I'm trying to cut back on the alcohols. Tell me what the legal limits for hops is. Hops. For insects, there is an average of more than 2,500 aphids per 10 grams. I don't know the words you're saying, but it doesn't sound good to me. It doesn't sound ideal. I'm looking up aphids. I just assume it's... Oh, they're like these tiny little night creatures. Gross. Okay. I can have up to 25 aphids. Is that just good protein? Or are they like, that's what gives you E. coli? It says here they are small sacs sucking insects. So that doesn't sound right. Not loving this. Not loving this, Curt. Not loving this. Ethan, you're the guest of honor. Why don't you pick something that you would like ruined? Well, I came prepared because I just ate a Nature's Bakery fig bar, which is kind of like a Fig Newton ideal. So I would like to know figs and or fig paste. Okay. You got to go fig paste for that. I mean, in this case, yeah. I love a Fig Newton. You're about to fuck up a Fig Newton, Curt. We're about to be fighting. Fig paste. Again, insects. Contains 13 or more insect heads per 100 grams of fig paste in each of two or more sub-samples. That was metal as fuck. What do you mean? Just the heads. That's one of the, this is where I decided this might work as a bit because it's not all dry kind of robotic language. And like the things do not make sense. Why, why has this got fig head or why does this have insect heads and the other one had rodent hair? Like what is this? Does this mean you could have unlimited insect bodies, but none of that, like if their heads are chopped off, you're fine? Oh, see, I, I assume this meant that like there were no bodies, just heads. Oops, all heads. But you're saying- That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Oh, okay. I thought you were saying that in your mind, this meant that, uh, uh, there's a cap on how many heads, but there could be like- Yeah. What if there's severed heads? Like what if there was a guillotine for these fucking creatures and now you get, you got like 400 insect bodies. That's fine. But as long as it's not 25 heads. To be clear, it's not 25 heads. 2,500. 100. Sorry, sorry. Oh my God, what? Okay. But you could have 10 million bodies, it sounds like, as long as they're severed. Yeah. Oh, damn it. Oh, I think I, I think I was thinking of the aphid. There wasn't 25,500. It was 13 or more insect heads per hundred grams. Oh, it's 2,500 aphids in the hops. Well, now I feel better a lot than I did. I liked how specific this one was. I would like to know salad olives. I don't, I don't even know what a salad olive is. Is that just a black olive? I guess so. I was very intrigued by that too, but let's hear what it is. I think maybe this means like pitted olives because, oh no, pitted olives is also on the list. I don't know. I don't know what a salad olive is. Oh, a sliced Spanish salad olive. It's a real thing. It says for pits, there is an average of 1.3 or more olives by count of olives with whole pits and or pit fragments two millimeter or longer measured in the longest dimension. I'm sorry. This is a fucking SAT problem. What are you? What? Yeah. This one's hard to parse. You just said the word pit 74 times. Well, if you've got 12 olives coming this way and you have 12 bodies going that way, they cancel out. So it's saying, no, I've read it several times. I do not know what it's saying, but it has a second entry here. Thank you, FDA. Insect damage. 9% or more olives. What? What? 9% or more olives by weight show damage by olive fruit flies. Oh my God. What? Yeah. All of the fruit flies. Insect damage is not a percentage I was expecting going into this night. I love that there's no rhyme or reason. Like pits. Okay. That makes sense. That would be listed under olives, but insect damage listed here, but not insects. We don't know how many insects might be in your, in your olives. Oh, you're going to have a million heads, but as long as there's no damage. This is great. Yeah. You would think it was a standardized scale. I thought when you first said like the allspice thing, it was like, okay, we're going to have like three categories. We can kind of judge them based on each other. This is just madness. The FDA has lost their minds. The different things being grown have different heights of, you know, insect issues that they deal with. Like the hops having the ape fins or whatever. I guess. But what, as a consumer, how is that supposed to help me? I've got to do hours and hours of research to understand how gross the food I'm eating is. Like, why do they even publish this? What am I supposed to do for this info? It's not for you. It's for like companies. Why do I know about it then? Well, because we're doing this podcast. I'm going to go ahead. You could ask that. So it's not like you snuck into a facility and stole their documents. You don't know that. I know you couldn't do that. You've got none of that skill set. All right. I'm going to do popcorn. Oh, you get a turn. I didn't know that. I just decided I'd get one. So. You're going after popcorn. I just ate some tonight. I wasn't going to. I was actually going to go with pineapple juice. But this was, this has so many ors. I have to, I have to read this one. We're under rodent filth for popcorn. It says one or more rodent excreta pellets are found in one or more subsamples and one or more rodent hairs are found in two or more subsamples. But then it says or. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Two or more rodent hairs per pound and rodent hair is found in 50% or more of the subsamples. What? And then it says or. Oh no. You should tell me you could have, you could have 49% hairs in the samples and it's, that's fine. Yeah. 20 or more nod grains per pound and rodent hair is found in 50% or more of the subsamples. Oh my God. What? I love the idea that the, the mouse got in there and nod some grains and got out, just didn't do any, did no pooping, left no hairs behind. It was a stealthy ass mouse, but it nod the shit out of those kernels. Yeah. I got to tell you this, that's a nightmare for me, Curt. We had a, we had a mouse invade our house and I, if it was fine, it was during the COVID era. Right. And I happened to just Google like, whoa, I was like, in my head, I was like, you know what? Mice, they, they're like pestilence, right? Like they've led to major diseases like the bubonic plague. Let me just Google what can happen with a mouse. And it turns out it's not my area, but I still read about the hand of virus. And I'm fucking scarred. Like it is, it's just like an absolute nightmare. And I'm genuinely terrified of mouse droppings now. Ethan, you're familiar with the hand of virus, right? The hand towel with a T. Yeah, there's a T in there. So, so not as much. Okay. Do we, do we want to keep playing or did we, I mean, I'm scarred, but like we can keep going. I think we did enough. I think we did enough. You can stop listening, but I do want to say one more. So I'm going to do whole dates. Oh no. Oh, that's fine. Yeah. Pick some of the stuff I wouldn't buy anywhere. Oh, you don't like a date? I love a date. I love a date. It says average of 5% or more dates by count or rejects. And then in parentheses, it says moldy, dead insects, insectic screecha, sour, dirty, and or worthless. Worthless. Like all those are very specific reasons it would be rejected. And some are just like, you just look at it. It's like this one. I don't like the look of this one. This one will never get a job. I'm sure we've all had some worthless dates. Am I right? Yeah. How do you figure out a date's worthless if it isn't, if it hasn't violated any of those other classes? That's wild. Oh, I just realized that I didn't do this before. Now for a segment we're calling just before a bunch. Love the name. Love the name. answer: “Just before lunch” Title wording: Just before lunch

Response context: discourseRole: read explanation of the table; clauses: It is incorrect to assume that because the FDA has an established defect action level for a food commodity, the food manufacturer need only stay just below that level. The defect levels do not represent an average of the defects that occur in any of the products. The averages are actually much lower. The levels represent limits that the FDA will regard a food product adulterated and subject to enforcement action under Section 402A3 of the Drug Food and Cosmetics Act. Segment context: setup and rule clarification

Choice: popcorn Interaction mode: volunteered facilitator turn Answer qualification: I just decided I'd get one. I was actually going to go with pineapple juice. But this was, this has so many ors. I have to, I have to read this one. Answer or action: discourseRole: read aloud from table; clauses: We're under rodent filth for popcorn. It says one or more rodent excreta pellets are found in one or more subsamples and one or more rodent hairs are found in two or more subsamples. But then it says or. Two or more rodent hairs per pound and rodent hair is found in 50% or more of the subsamples. And then it says or. 20 or more nod grains per pound and rodent hair is found in 50% or more of the subsamples.

Segment type: noncompetitive episode prediction Activity request: Well, Ryan, why don't you tell us what to expect next week when we cover the previous episode. Prompt item: It's season 10, episode 18, Row to Perdition. Answer qualification: It's spelled R-O-E, yeah. Competition adjudication competition established: False Result qualification: Well, I guess we'll find out what the fuck perdition means next week. Reviewed full source context: Well, Ryan, why don't you tell us what to expect next week when we cover the previous episode. It's season 10, episode 18, Row to Perdition. Curt, I'm not going to lie. I had a lot of trouble here. I don't know what perdition means. And I don't know if this is a pun. It sounds like a pun, but nothing's triggering in my brain. I got no idea. I know what row is. I got a stab there. I'm guessing it's fish eggs. I mean, I know generally that's what row would be. Maybe it's like row. It's spelled R-O-E, yeah. Because yeah, row versus Wade, that's I think like the action. And it's obviously not the action. So anyway, I just have to guess sushi because I have nothing else to do with perdition. So I had Gertrude Ruins a fancy sushi outing for Daphne. I don't know. I don't know if that's perditioning or not. I have no fucking idea. I'm a mess. I hear how a mess you are. I can't wait to find out what perditioning is next week. Do you guys know what perditioning is? Go ahead. Well, I know that the pun or the turn of phrase, it's road to perdition. It sounds like an R. Kelly song. What? I know there was a Tom Hanks movie called Road to Perdition, and I don't really know what it means either. I just know it's... I think it's like a phrase outside of that Tom Hanks movie, but I don't know what it means, no. Well, you think that they're doing a pun off the Tom Hanks movie, or that was already a phrase and Tom Hanks made a movie? I think it must have already been a phrase, but there was a Tom Hanks movie. And it probably was around this time, right? 2002. It was. Okay. Maybe it is just a reference to the movie. Without Googling, did you guys know what perdition meant? No, we still don't know. All right, good. At least I'm in the dark with you guys. Google doesn't know. They say no one knows. That's exciting. They say watch the Preacher episode and make your best guess. But tune in next week or whatever the fuck ever. Learn what a nonsense word is. Well, I guess we'll find out what the fuck perdition means next week.

Segment type: post outro discussion Context outside the activity. Reviewed full source context: Which is the one that supported ISIS? What? Yeah, Curtis supported ISIS a couple episodes ago. Oh, he did support ISIS. Wasn't it Hobby Lobby? Who likes ISIS? What? I don't think any of the companies support ISIS. Uh, okay. I'm going to look it up real quick. Yeah, we can stop everything. You're going to look that up. Okay, in 2009, Hobby Lobby, there was a smuggling scandal. Representatives of Hobby Lobby received a large number of clay, boulet, and tablets originating in the ancient Near East. That doesn't sound like I support ISIS. That's like they bought something old. No, they bought them from ISIS. Or did they say like, hey, I'm John from ISIS? How do you know you're buying something from ISIS? You checked the label. It's ISIS trademark. They were smuggled out of Iraq. I don't know. And I assume... Wait, the Hobby Lobbyists smuggled it? Or ISIS smuggled it? Hobby Lobby purchased it, and they were smuggled out of Iraq. According to the Atlantic, ISIS has made billions by selling ancient goods like this. But does Hobby Lobby know that they're buying from ISIS? Maybe I've bought from ISIS. I don't know. I got like popcorn the other day. I don't know where it came from. You're worried your popcorn is straight from ISIS? It explodes. It explodes. Lookup reader: Ethan