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The Squash Courtship of Freddy's Father

The Reverse Psychology hosts discuss the Frasier reboot episode “The Squash Courtship of Freddy’s Father” and share humorous fictional book summaries in their monthly book club.

IN THE ROOM

CurtisBrad(ley)RyanDani

Guest appearance: Dani

NO COMMON DENOMINATOR

Episode ratings.

Dani3 of 5 Broadway starsRecorded at 43:13Broadway-star rating
Rating context
  • Answer qualification: Like it's not bad, but I think it's pretty average.
Ryan6.2/10Recorded at 43:30Numeric episode rating
Rating context
  • Answer qualification: Rachel Bloom on fire.; Al and Olivia interactions.; Frasier's great.; David's the only real big negative.; I'm surprised I gave it as low a score as I gave it, honestly.
Curtis76 of 112Recorded at 43:52Ordinal ranking
Rating context
  • Answer qualification: This ranked not as good as My Brilliant Sister, the one with Yvette Nicole Brown.; Better than It Takes Two to Tangle.; So yeah, bad system.
Brad(ley)7 of 10Recorded at 44:36Season blind ranking
Rating context
  • Response: I'm putting this in my 7 spot and I actually feel good.
  • Answer qualification: And this episode, to me, did not deserve my 3 spot.; Did not deserve my 5 spot.; I just, I wasn't a huge fan.

Original rating systems, exactly as represented in the archive. These scales are not interchangeable.

By way of introduction.

Curtis

I'm your host, Curtis.

Original introduction wording
  • I'm your host, Curt Oshak.
Brad(ley)

Introduced as the “resident abyss boy”; thanks everyone and says he is excited for the episode and to be there tonight.

Original introduction wording
  • resident abyss boy
  • Thank you
  • Really excited to be here tonight
Ryan

Introduced as “our special boy” and co-host; immediately challenges the Crazy Ex-Girlfriend tease.

Original introduction wording
  • our special boy
  • co-host
Danielle

With Rachel Bloom guest-starring, the panel brings back its “illustrious musicals expert.” Dani thanks them and is excited to dive in.

Original introduction wording
  • illustrious musicals expert
  • Dani Stevens
  • excited to dive in
Read the full performed opening

Welcome to Reverse Psychology, the Frasier Rewatch podcast where you go backwards through every episode of the show. Tonight, we are covering Frasier 2023, Season 2, Episode 5, The Squash Courtship of Freddy's Father, which originally streamed on October 10th, 2024. Has it been over a year, yet I still haven't watched Crazy Ex-Girlfriend? We'll find out. I'm your host, Curt Oshak. Joining me as always, it's our resident abyss boy, it's Bradley Kirkston. Thank you, thank you all. Let's have a great episode. Really excited to talk about this episode. Really excited to be here tonight. Okay, succinct, well done. Also with us is our special boy, it's co-host Ryan Zamzone. Curt, I'm gonna be real upset if that tease at the beginning. If you really haven't watched Crazy Ex-Girlfriend in over a year, like, what are you doing with it? Look at your life, look at your choices, Curt. Let's leave it a nice little cliffhanger until the end of the episode. Stay tuned, folks. But you should also stay tuned because this episode had guest star Rachel Bloom, who was on a musical show. Obviously, we brought back our illustrious musicals expert. It's Dani Stevens! Well, thank you for having me back. I'm so excited to dive in.

Someone brought rules.

The games, the premises, and what everyone brought to the table.

How this one works

How it works
  1. In this episode, Frasier is convinced that Bebe's daughter is also his daughter because of the characteristics she is using to prey on him.
Prompt
  1. What characteristics of yourself would you use to convince a Frasier character that you're their kid?

RESULT STATUS

The recorded result is unresolved.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 08:15

Kinship Wrap

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  • Ending or payoff: Lock it in, Curtis.; Call this episode a wrap.

Follow the round structure (1)

RECORDED EXCHANGE

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Kinship Prompt
Question / challenge

What characteristics of yourself would you use to convince a Frasier character that you're their kid?

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Marty Pitch

Marty

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  • Response: my knowledge of Seattle sports teams in particular.; I also like terrible beers.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Ryan Pitch

I would convince Freddy I'm his kid because I get way smarter when I'm drunk.

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  • Answer qualification: I wasn't going to say that I'm a time traveler.; Like, Freddie just doesn't know my age.; I could play 18 years younger.; I look somewhere between 15 and 65 years old.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Curtis Pitch

David

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  • Response: I think I would probably convince him of it over a long game of legislature and we would; bond over our similarly annoying traits.; But in my scenario, I thought part of it would be I'd have to convince him I was a time traveler; from the future.
  • Answer qualification: And frankly, I didn't think that was going to be a tough sell for David.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Dani Pitch

Frasier

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  • Response: Well, very much like Rachel Bloom's character, my love of the arts.
  • Answer qualification: Because I don't know who all of these characters are, I could only go off with the one character; I actually knew something about, which was Frasier.; Yeah, I don't know if I could pull it off as well, but...; I do not, but I have been to a few operas.; But not as nearly as fancy.; And I can assure you, I was very much, well, I wasn't in the mezzanine, but I was definitely; with the poor people.; I like being real close.; So, see, I convince him only half the truce.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

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Trait Clarification
Question / challenge

And what would the trait be?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

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Opera Question
Question / challenge

When you go to the opera, do you wear the weird mini binoculars?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

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Opera Hypothetical
Question / challenge

If you were in a rich people area, would you rock the mini binocs?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

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Kinship Comparison
Question / challenge

Who do you think would the best job of us?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

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Kinship Preference

Ryan

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  • Response: Brian, I have to say, because you can bullshit your way through anything.
Round context
  • Method: What characteristics of yourself would you use to convince a Frasier character that you're their kid?
  • Final adjudication: Brian, I have to say, because you can bullshit your way through anything.
View source wording — how it was explained on the show
  • Activity premise: In this episode, Frasier is convinced that Bebe's daughter is also his daughter because of the characteristics she is using to prey on him.

How this one works

Prompt
  1. So tell me, what kind of animal companion should the show Frasier introduced to fill the Eddie-sized hole in this revival series?

RESULT STATUS

The recorded result is unresolved.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 32:11

Forecast Wrap

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  • Ending or payoff: That was the season three forecast of the week.

Follow the round structure (1)

So tell me, what kind of animal companion should the show Frasier introduced to fill the Eddie-sized hole in this revival series?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

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Animal Prompt
Question / challenge

So tell me, what kind of animal companion should the show Frasier introduced to fill the Eddie-sized hole in this revival series?

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Reptile

I was thinking of some sort of reptile.

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  • Answer qualification: Like a lizard or something.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

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Elephant Location Prompt
Question / challenge

Where are they putting an elephant?

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Who says “It would be fully in character for David to have a different reptile pet every week”?

It would be fully in character for David to have a different reptile pet every week. Like just every episode. This week it's a turtle. Next week it's a salamander.

Round context
  • Result qualification: But I think you answered it terribly.; That is a brilliant idea.; So buy an elephant and put it in Frasier season three.
View source wording — how it was explained on the show
  • Ending or payoff: So buy an elephant and put it in Frasier season three.

How this one works

How it works
  1. So to let you in on our more intellectual side, we thought we could use this time to host
  2. our monthly book club that we do.
  3. As such, each of us has read a book and is going to give a little summary for the group
  4. and their review.
  5. We all read different books.
Recorded activity context

So to let you in on our more intellectual side, we thought we could use this time to host; our monthly book club that we do.

RESULT STATUS

The recorded result is unresolved.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 55:38

Book Wrap

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  • Ending or payoff: Well, like many books, this was a segment that was probably better on paper than it was in actual experience.

Follow the round structure (2)

As such, each of us has read a book and is going to give a little summary for the group; and their review.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

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Summary Assignment
Question / challenge

As such, each of us has read a book and is going to give a little summary for the group

RECORDED EXCHANGE

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Review Assignment
Question / challenge

and their review.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Pride and Prejudice

I was surprised the prejudice wasn't so bad.; It was the pride that I really did not love.; The parade in Chapter 8.; It was too long.

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  • Summary: Some people were all like, they hated a bunch of gays.; And then they put on a parade.
  • Submission type: comic synopsis and review

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Dante's Inferno

...is even though this feels like a hypnotic fever dream, it really is a true story of growth; and exploring your moral compass.

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  • Summary: And as you guys know, it is about a male strip club.; Guided by his smooth-talking, you know, club promoter.; We're going to call him Virgil.; Dante descends floor by floor through the nine increasingly bizarre and symbolic levels of this nine-floor strip club.; Each level represents a different vice, you know, greed, envy, and beyond,; What begins as a curious knight quickly sprawls into a psychological journey.
  • Answer qualification: Of Dante throughout the nine levels of stripping.; Oh, you have to watch it.; You have to read the book to find out.; Now watch it.
  • Submission type: comic synopsis and review

RECORDED EXCHANGE

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Inferno Growth Question
Question / challenge

What's the growth?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

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Inferno Motive Question
Question / challenge

Why is he going through the nine levels?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

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Presentation Reaction Prompt
Question / challenge

Danny, what do you think of these so far?

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Presentation Reaction

These are wild.; I can't believe I've read the same books and did not pick up on the same things.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Finnegan's Wake

Dear Professor Jones, I like Finnegan's Wake.; The book is very good and very fun.; I hope Jane Joyce soon writes a sequel.; Finnegan 2, Finnegan's Break.

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  • Summary: Finnegan is a really fun guy who does fun Irish things like being friends with a leprechaun and dressing in green.; I think it is really cool that he is a surfer and rides the waves.; It was really scary when the wake created such high waves, but exciting when he rode them well.
  • Submission type: comic synopsis and review
Round context
  • Method: We all read different books.

Should we just test ourselves?; Should we go around and name some books and see if we've read it?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

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Mice Prompt
Question / challenge

What do you think that's about?

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  • Prompt item: Of Mice and Men.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 51:34
Mouse Answer

No, I know that one.; That one is about a little mouse who rides a little car and his name's Stuart, I think.; Yeah, joins a family, wears a red sweater.

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  • Curtis: “No, I know that one. That one is about a little mouse who rides a little car and his name's Stuart, I think.”
  • Dani: “Yeah, joins a family, wears a red sweater.”

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Bible Prompt
Question / challenge

Brad, hit me.

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  • Prompt item: The Bible.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

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Rivalry Prompt
Question / challenge

He did Rivalry.

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  • Answer qualification: Is that a book?; That's definitely a movie, isn't it?

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Rivalry Answer

It's just gay hockey.; Two people, two guys, different teams.; They get it on the ice and then in the locker room.; That's my understanding of it.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

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Mockingbird Prompt
Question / challenge

But what is the plot?

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  • Prompt item: To kill a mockingbird.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Mockingbird Answer

It's really pronounced tequila mockingbird.; It's about a Mexican restaurant.; It's about the staff of a Mexican restaurant who just go throughout their day and they have; to deal with crazy customers named Boo Radley and certain issues like that every single; day at this Mexican restaurant.

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Mockingbird Twist

Well, in the day it's a Mexican restaurant, at night it turns into a gay strip club.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

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Dorian Prompt
Question / challenge

The picture of Dory and Gray.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Dorian Doctor

Yeah, because he's like a doctor and he's working in the big city and he has lots of drama; with his colleagues.

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  • Response context: Is that the book Gray's Nanities based off of?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

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Twilight Prompt
Question / challenge

Like, Curtis, Brad, have you guys actually seen or read any Twilight?

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  • Prompt item: Twilight.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Twilight Plot

I know there's a love triangle.; Kristen Stewart's trying to get with a werewolf and a vampire, but for four books, I don't see it.

Round context
  • Method: Ryan, do you have any books that you've read that you want us to tell you what it's about?
View source wording — how it was explained on the show
  • Ending or payoff: Well, like many books, this was a segment that was probably better on paper than it was in actual experience.

How this one works

Prompt
  1. Brad, why don't you tell us what we're going to experience next week when we cover the previous episode at Season 2, Episode 4, The Dedication.

RESULT STATUS

The recorded result is unresolved.

Follow the round structure (1)

Prediction Round
Source excerpt ↗ 55:47

The Dedication

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Prediction Prompt
Question / challenge

Brad, why don't you tell us what we're going to experience next week when we cover the previous episode at Season 2, Episode 4, The Dedication.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Improvised plot guess

The whole cast goes to Chicago because Frazier's getting his old studio named after him, and they're dedicating it after Frazier.; While they're in the air, David has a panic attack and ends up in Kansas City, and they go visit him at the end of the episode in Kansas City.

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  • Submission type: improvised plot guess

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: DaniSource excerpt ↗ 56:26

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Prediction Evaluation Prompt
Question / challenge

Do you think Brad nailed it, Danny?

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Prediction Evaluation

Absolutely not.

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  • Adjudication verdict: local rejection
Round context
  • Final adjudication: This ain't it.
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  • Result qualification: Absolutely not.; This ain't it.

Comic bits and episode moments.

Curtis, do you want to send Danny a picture of the crumpet you tried to make?

What was recorded

What everyone brought to the table · 3 recorded exchanges

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Crumpet Request

Question / challenge

Curtis, do you want to send Danny a picture of the crumpet you tried to make?

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First Crumpet Share

I'll send that now.

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Second Crumpet Share

I'll send you that, too.

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  • Response context: There was a second attempt that came out a lot better.
Source details
  • Result qualification: It's a little crispy.; That's much better.; I was fishing for that compliment.

Well, how did you react to this episode?

See how they answered

What everyone brought to the table · 6 recorded exchanges

3 attributed voices

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: DaniSource excerpt ↗ 43:03

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Rating System Prompt

Question / challenge

Do you remember what kind of a rating system you use or do we invent a new one for you?

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Rating System Answer

I think, didn't I do Broadway stars?

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  • Answer qualification: You did.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

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Dani Rating Prompt

Question / challenge

So how many stars you give in this episode?

Show 3 more contributions

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Participant cited: RyanSource excerpt ↗ 43:28

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Ryan Rating Prompt

Question / challenge

Well, Ryan, how about you?

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Brad Rating Prompt

Question / challenge

But Brad, was this a bad episode?

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Blind Ranking

3; 5; 7; 9; 10

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  • Result qualification: You'll see at the end when I do the actual ranking of all 10, where I would actually; put this episode.

By way of goodbye.

Curtis

Deaths, texting, no more

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Transcript context (may contain transcription errors)

So for myself, for Ryan, for Brad, and for Danny, deaths, texting, no more.

Previously, next week.

Predictions as made on the podcast—not claims about what actually happens.

Conversation excerpt

Forecast Context

Source excerpt ↗ 29:56

Animals are such a crowd pleaser, generally.; It would seem like an easy way to boost the ratings of this show if they had an animal like a replacement for Eddie,

Next in the reverse watch: The Dedication

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