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The Dedication

IN THE ROOM

CurtisBrad(ley)Ryan

NO COMMON DENOMINATOR

Episode ratings.

RyanDiscusses the eights; no final numeric rating stated.Recorded at 44:00Episode assessment
Rating context
  • Answer qualification: That's why it didn't go higher, but I had almost no negatives here.
Curtis83 of 113Recorded at 45:53Ordinal ranking
Rating context
  • Submission type: episode ranking
  • Answer qualification: I thought this was better than Proxy Prexy, where Martin runs for condo board, but worse than some assembly required the Habitat for Humanity episode.
Brad(ley)9 of 10Recorded at 46:09Season blind ranking
Rating context
  • Answer qualification: The only reason why I'm probably not putting it a 10 is because there's three episodes and how bad the opening episodes were last time.

Original rating systems, exactly as represented in the archive. These scales are not interchangeable.

By way of introduction.

Curtis

I'm your host, Curtis.

Original introduction wording
  • I'm your host, Curtis Shuck.
Brad(ley)

Introduced as the “resident abyss boy”; asks when he becomes a man and calculates eleven more years.

Original introduction wording
  • resident abyss boy
  • When do I become a man
  • 11 more
Ryan

Introduced as “a man who loves Amy Sedaris and everything she does.” Ryan performs enthusiastic anticipation before admitting, “No, I do hate her.”

Original introduction wording
  • a
  • man who loves Amy Sedaris and everything she does
  • No, I do hate her
Read the full performed opening

Welcome to Reverse Psychology, the Frasier rewatch podcast where we go backwards through every episode of the show. Tonight, we are covering Frasier 2023, Season 2, Episode 4, The Dedication, which originally streamed on October 3rd, 2024. We meet a stranger in this episode, but will she come with candy? We'll find out. I'm your host, Curtis Shuck. Joining me as always, it's our resident abyss boy. It's Bradley Kirkston. When do I become a man? Do I have to wait 13 years? Yes. Okay, got it. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's just Jewish law. Okay, got it. We've been doing this show for two years now, New Frasier, so I guess I got 11 more. Got it. Also with us is a man who loves Amy Sedaris and everything she does. It's co-host Ryan Sansone. Curtis, yes, it's so great to get to talk about Amy Sedaris again. It's been too long. I've been looking, I've been, I wrote this day down in my calendar. I've been looking forward to it. Love, love, love. Did I just will that into reality? No, I do hate her. I can't wait to talk about it. I don't hate her. I

Someone brought rules.

The games, the premises, and what everyone brought to the table.

How this one works

How it works
  1. But which characters will they mine to pull a Frasier and create a new spinoff show?
  2. I know we're supposed to be doing like bad notes
  3. pitching and responding to roleplayed studio executives
Prompt
  1. We will compete with pitches to hypothetical studio executives in a new segment we are calling Spinoff Face Off.

RESULT STATUS

The recorded result is unresolved.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 47:15

Setup

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  • Method: I guess I can do the whole thing as an elevator pitch.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:01:57

Game Wrap

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  • Final state summary: Well, that got greenlit,

Follow the round structure (3)

RECORDED EXCHANGE

“Participant cited” identifies a contributor, not the speaker of every word in this excerpt. It may include other participants’ replies or reactions.

Call1
Question / challenge

Go, Cordis.

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Pitch1

Well, I would like to mine that show's character, Olivia, pluck her out and spin her off into; her own show.; We can get Yvette Nicole Brown to reprise her role as the sister Monica.; And this will be not a comedy or a sitcom, but a dramedy murder mystery show.; They will be private investigators using their knowledge of psychology and linguistics to; solve murders for the Boston PD.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 49:05

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Q11
Question / challenge

What's the hook?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 49:20

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Q12
Question / challenge

Are you going to have the bit of the two sisters just you're hating each other the whole series; or is eventually they're going to, you know, stop bickering and become closer?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 49:50

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P13
Question / challenge

Could we work him in there?

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  • Prompt item: David

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

A13

I mean, given his age and status as a student, I think intern is the perfect role for him.; He will be getting coffee.; He'll be the guy that is mostly absent from the show, but he'll show up for one scene to; deliver coffee and he will say something innocuous, which will trigger Olivia to go, you're; a genius, and then connect some dot to solve the murder.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 50:19

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P14
Question / challenge

How would you use that?

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

A14

He's he's their office mate.; And he's mostly bumbling and doesn't get a lot of lines, but he's there 75% of the time.; And as we get to the end of the season, I think we'll discover he's been the evil serial; killer mastermind the whole time.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 50:56

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P15
Question / challenge

Can you just use all the same sets we just created for new Frasier?

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

A15

They move into Frasier's apartment.; The sisters once Frasier and Freddie move out like.; Frasier's moved to Paris.; And she is subletting his apartment.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 51:16

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Q16
Question / challenge

Where's David living now?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 51:25

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Q17
Question / challenge

Was she deported or was she?; Did she move to Guam?

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

A17

I don't think she's from Guam.; If anything, I think she's Canadian.; I mean, you're an executive.; Whatever you say.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 51:36

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Q18
Question / challenge

What was the name of the show again?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 51:46

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Q19
Question / challenge

Are we married to that?

Round context
  • Adjudication verdict: DEFERRED
  • Final adjudication: We'll be in touch.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

“Participant cited” identifies a contributor, not the speaker of every word in this excerpt. It may include other participants’ replies or reactions.

Call2
Question / challenge

Mr. Bradford?

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Hotel Cornwall

This family sitcom really centers around Alan willing to connect with his daughter.; His daughter really needs Alan's help to start a hotel in Orlando, Florida.; So Alan retires as a professor at Harvard to move to Orlando to run a hotel with his daughter.; Cranky Alan has to be a friendly hotel manager.; Even though he has to deal with obnoxious staff and the Orlando heat, he puts up with it for a chance to connect with his daughter.

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  • Ending or payoff: Don't miss the opportunity to invest in Hotel Cornwall.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 53:04
Heat

Not like Orlando heat.

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  • Claim: Alan's not really shown like he hates heat.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 53:26

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P21
Question / challenge

So we were hoping you could just slot him in there.

More of this contribution
  • Prompt item: Anders Keefe, who plays David

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 53:37

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Q22
Question / challenge

We're also not married to Nora.; Can we maybe like, you know, maybe write her out?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 53:47

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P23
Question / challenge

Can they be American?; Because I'm not keen on a show full of Brits.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 54:01

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Q24
Question / challenge

Like how would he interact with like an Alan character?

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

A24

Alan would, you know, tell him to, you know, make a cocktail.; Let's say a Bloody Mary for a guest.; And then we'd hear a 10 minute ramble of David telling us the history of Bloody Marys.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 54:15

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Q25
Question / challenge

So it's an educational program.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 54:31

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Q26
Question / challenge

Can he fix up the inn?; Can he do some like actual fixes and explain?

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

A26

Some of the other characters will be like the repairman and the maintenance workers and all that kind of stuff.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 54:40

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Q27
Question / challenge

Who are the, what other characters?

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

A27

You get Denise, a divorcee from St. Peter's, Florida, who just really, really has a passion for hotel management.; And she is the head housekeeper.; Then there's Bartholomew from St. Paul, Minnesota.; He's a repairman from St. Paul, Minnesota.; And then the last character is Gregory.; Gregory lives at the hotel.; That's all we know about Gregory.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 54:57

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Q28
Question / challenge

What was that name again?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 55:02

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Q29
Question / challenge

Is he a mule?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 55:12

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Q210
Question / challenge

Can we hear what his accent sounds like if he's from St. Paul?

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

A210

He moved from Florida because his wife needs a kidney transplant.; It's very, very tragic.; And this is his St. Paul accent.; He's from St. Paul, Minnesota.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 55:20

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Q211
Question / challenge

He moved from Florida to Orlando?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 55:38

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Q212
Question / challenge

Who plays Gregory?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 55:44

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P213
Question / challenge

But any way you could make Gregory played by one Mr. Anders Keefe.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 55:58
A213

Oh, I like that.; Yes.; Yeah.

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  • Ryan: “Oh, I like that.”
  • Ryan: “Yes.”
  • Curtis: “Yeah.”

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 56:03

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Q214
Question / challenge

Should he be wearing a fat suit?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 56:09

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Q215
Question / challenge

How many characters can we get him?

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 56:13
A215

I'd be willing to go up to four.

More of this contribution
  • Curtis: “Let's have him Eddie Murphy all over the show.”
  • Brad(ley): “I'd be willing to go up to four.”

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 56:15

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Q216
Question / challenge

Do you think he could do Nora?

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 56:16
A216

I think that could work.; I think he has to be Nora.

More of this contribution
  • Ryan: “I think that could work.”
  • Curtis: “I think he has to be Nora.”
Round context
  • Adjudication verdict: REJECTED
  • Final adjudication: My people are not going to be contacting your people.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: RyanSource excerpt ↗ 56:29

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Call3
Question / challenge

Is there an Aryan Samsung?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 57:02

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Q31
Question / challenge

Will the show take place in an elevator?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 57:08

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P32

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Pitch3

Anyway, this is your classic sort of workplace comedy.; It takes place in a theater.; After delving into Frasier's memoirs,; Phoebe realizes there is mad money to be made in the opera game.; She reckons she can make even more; by finding low-budget, high-ceiling actors; from the local, untapped Boston scene.; She discovers Augustine and Roland; while going to a…

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Anyway, this is your classic sort of workplace comedy.; It takes place in a theater.; After delving into Frasier's memoirs,; Phoebe realizes there is mad money to be made in the opera game.; She reckons she can make even more; by finding low-budget, high-ceiling actors; from the local, untapped Boston scene.; She discovers Augustine and Roland; while going to a rehearsal of one of Frasier's favorite obscure plays.; She goes on dates with Vince Wilfork and June Patrick,; and she realizes that they aren't good at loving,; but they're great at improv.; So she attempts to moneyball her way into theater history,; but if she can't sell out opening night,; her evil mom's going to pull all of the funding; and the opera will be canceled.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 58:16

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Q33
Question / challenge

Is this a comedy or a drama?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 58:22

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Q34
Question / challenge

And the workplace is an elevator?

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

A34

It's going to be like the literal elevator,; but it's going to be,; TV magic is going to make it look out to be like,; these are a bunch of people at a theater rehearsal; for pretty much the whole series.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 58:33

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Q35
Question / challenge

Which characters would you say are the protagonist; and which are the antagonists?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 58:43

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P36
Question / challenge

Do you think we could get Anders Keith,; the guy who plays David, to be Rachel Bloom?

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

A36

You know, I don't think that would work,; but I think we could slot him in.; What if we just say he's Vince Wilfork?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 59:11

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P37
Question / challenge

We have this terrible British actor; that played Freddie in Frasier.; How can you use him in this series?

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

A37

What if Freddie and David; play Vince Wilfork?; And we just switch him out; and, like, no one notices.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 59:54

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P38
Question / challenge

So how can you make that work?

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  • Adjudication: I don't love that.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

A38

What if we kind of make him; like an ornamental rug; as part of the theater piece?; Yes, exactly.; And people just step on him.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:00:27

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Q38C
Question / challenge

Like he's a prop?

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Ext38

Like a Wilson situation; on Home Improvement.; We never see the face.; He's just the prop guy.; He's always sitting in the background.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:00:38

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P39
Question / challenge

Is there any way; you could hire; the original Freddie,; Trevor Einhorn,; to play Freddie in this version?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:01:07

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Q310
Question / challenge

Could he be the emo version; the whole time?

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  • Answer qualification: I think he should be a goth version.

RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE

Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:01:14
A310

Yeah, I was thinking; the goth would be; a good personal assistant; to a theater director.

More of this contribution
  • Curtis: “I think you're thinking of goth.”
  • Curtis: “I think he should be a goth version.”
  • Ryan: “Yeah, I was thinking the goth would be a good personal assistant to a theater director.”
  • Ryan: “Yeah, I think that would work and play great.”

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:01:23

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Q311

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:01:40

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Q312
Question / challenge

Please tell us.

More of this contribution
  • Prompt item: You don't even want to know; what those shows called?

CLAIM & ADJUDICATION

Title Explanation

she's manipulating them.; that's going to be a whole reveal; at the end of the season.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 1:01:52

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Q313
Question / challenge

Do you spell it with a PH?

Round context
  • Answer qualification: Do you spell it with a PH?; Yeah, obviously.
  • Adjudication verdict: GREENLIT
  • Final adjudication: Greenlit.
View source wording — how it was explained on the show
  • Central premise: But which characters will they mine to pull a Frasier and create a new spinoff show?
  • Interaction mode: pitching and responding to roleplayed studio executives
  • Ryan: “This is NBC and CBS.”
  • Brad(ley): “Well, you know, I just want to represent that I'm from HBO Max because this question will”
  • Ryan: “I know we're supposed to be doing like bad notes, but Alan's not really shown like he hates heat.”
  • Curtis: “But any way you could make Gregory played by one Mr. Anders Keefe. We're okay with reusing him in as many parts as possible because we've got to really blow through this deal.”
  • Curtis: “We're network TV executives.”
  • Brad(ley): “Well, Ryan, you will hear from us soon, or you won't.”

Comic bits and episode moments.

dedicating this episode to the cancelled Frasier reboot.

See how they answered

What everyone brought to the table · 5 recorded exchanges

3 attributed voices

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

dedication speech

Frasier's reboot was garbage.

More of this contribution
  • Submission type: dedication speech
  • Ending or payoff: Frasier, I just love you and I miss you.
  • Response context: that was almost word for word, the dedication speech that Freddie gave about his friend.

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 02:41

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Ded P1

Question / challenge

do either of you have any words you'd like to say; in honor of the Frasier reboot?

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

Ded S1

you are the gold standard of failure.

More of this contribution
  • Answer qualification: Yes, but I just, I just want to talk about my guy, Frasier. I don't; really want to talk about the whole reboot.
  • Ending or payoff: May your deafness; continue to inspire us all.
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RECORDED EXCHANGE

“Participant cited” identifies a contributor, not the speaker of every word in this excerpt. It may include other participants’ replies or reactions.

Ded P2

Question / challenge

Brad, would you like to say a few words?

WHAT THEY BROUGHT

eulogy

A show that really, really, really was watched by hundreds of people.

More of this contribution
  • Submission type: eulogy
  • Ending or payoff: Just wait to the end of this episode of the podcast and we will show you; that it's not over.

What was recorded

What everyone brought to the table · 2 recorded exchanges

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 43:55

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Rating Q0

Question / challenge

Well, was this episode Division I, Ryan?

RECORDED EXCHANGE

Participant cited: Attribution unavailableSource excerpt ↗ 46:08

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Rating P1

Question / challenge

Brad, what about you?

By way of goodbye.

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