Game / activity
Spinoff Face Off
How this one works
How it works
- But which characters will they mine to pull a Frasier and create a new spinoff show?
- I know we're supposed to be doing like bad notes
- pitching and responding to roleplayed studio executives
Prompt
- We will compete with pitches to hypothetical studio executives in a new segment we are calling Spinoff Face Off.
RESULT STATUS
The recorded result is unresolved.
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
Setup
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- Method: I guess I can do the whole thing as an elevator pitch.
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
Game Wrap
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- Final state summary: Well, that got greenlit,
Follow the round structure (3)
Round 1
Source excerpt ↗ 48:04RECORDED EXCHANGE
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Call1
Go, Cordis.
WHAT THEY BROUGHT
Pitch1
Well, I would like to mine that show's character, Olivia, pluck her out and spin her off into; her own show.; We can get Yvette Nicole Brown to reprise her role as the sister Monica.; And this will be not a comedy or a sitcom, but a dramedy murder mystery show.; They will be private investigators using their knowledge of psychology and linguistics to; solve murders for the Boston PD.
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Q11
What's the hook?
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A11
The hook, frankly, is Yvette Nicole Brown.
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Q12
Are you going to have the bit of the two sisters just you're hating each other the whole series; or is eventually they're going to, you know, stop bickering and become closer?
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A12
They begin as enemies and they become frenemy sisters.
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P13
Could we work him in there?
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- Prompt item: David
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A13
I mean, given his age and status as a student, I think intern is the perfect role for him.; He will be getting coffee.; He'll be the guy that is mostly absent from the show, but he'll show up for one scene to; deliver coffee and he will say something innocuous, which will trigger Olivia to go, you're; a genius, and then connect some dot to solve the murder.
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P14
How would you use that?
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A14
He's he's their office mate.; And he's mostly bumbling and doesn't get a lot of lines, but he's there 75% of the time.; And as we get to the end of the season, I think we'll discover he's been the evil serial; killer mastermind the whole time.
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P15
Can you just use all the same sets we just created for new Frasier?
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A15
They move into Frasier's apartment.; The sisters once Frasier and Freddie move out like.; Frasier's moved to Paris.; And she is subletting his apartment.
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Q16
Where's David living now?
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A16
In Eve's old apartment, she's moved to Guam and he is he's subletting her apartment.
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Q17
Was she deported or was she?; Did she move to Guam?
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A17
I don't think she's from Guam.; If anything, I think she's Canadian.; I mean, you're an executive.; Whatever you say.
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Q18
What was the name of the show again?
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A18
The Olivica Mysteries.
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Q19
Are we married to that?
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A19
Yes.
Round context
- Adjudication verdict: DEFERRED
- Final adjudication: We'll be in touch.
Round 2
Source excerpt ↗ 51:54RECORDED EXCHANGE
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Call2
Mr. Bradford?
WHAT THEY BROUGHT
Hotel Cornwall
This family sitcom really centers around Alan willing to connect with his daughter.; His daughter really needs Alan's help to start a hotel in Orlando, Florida.; So Alan retires as a professor at Harvard to move to Orlando to run a hotel with his daughter.; Cranky Alan has to be a friendly hotel manager.; Even though he has to deal with obnoxious staff and the Orlando heat, he puts up with it for a chance to connect with his daughter.
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- Ending or payoff: Don't miss the opportunity to invest in Hotel Cornwall.
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
Heat
Not like Orlando heat.
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- Claim: Alan's not really shown like he hates heat.
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P21
So we were hoping you could just slot him in there.
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- Prompt item: Anders Keefe, who plays David
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Q22
We're also not married to Nora.; Can we maybe like, you know, maybe write her out?
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A22
Well, I didn't say Nora.; He has four kids.; Just pick another daughter.; It doesn't matter.
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P23
Can they be American?; Because I'm not keen on a show full of Brits.
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A23
You know, we can switch every episode just to make it fun.
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A21
And going back to your David idea, what about David as the bartender of the hotel?
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Q24
Like how would he interact with like an Alan character?
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A24
Alan would, you know, tell him to, you know, make a cocktail.; Let's say a Bloody Mary for a guest.; And then we'd hear a 10 minute ramble of David telling us the history of Bloody Marys.
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Q25
So it's an educational program.
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A25
No, it's comedy.
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Q26
Can he fix up the inn?; Can he do some like actual fixes and explain?
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A26
Some of the other characters will be like the repairman and the maintenance workers and all that kind of stuff.
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Q27
Who are the, what other characters?
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A27
You get Denise, a divorcee from St. Peter's, Florida, who just really, really has a passion for hotel management.; And she is the head housekeeper.; Then there's Bartholomew from St. Paul, Minnesota.; He's a repairman from St. Paul, Minnesota.; And then the last character is Gregory.; Gregory lives at the hotel.; That's all we know about Gregory.
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Q28
What was that name again?
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A28
Bartholomew.
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Q29
Is he a mule?
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A29
No, he's a human.
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Q210
Can we hear what his accent sounds like if he's from St. Paul?
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A210
He moved from Florida because his wife needs a kidney transplant.; It's very, very tragic.; And this is his St. Paul accent.; He's from St. Paul, Minnesota.
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Q211
He moved from Florida to Orlando?
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A211
He moved from St. Paul, Minnesota to Orlando.
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Q212
Who plays Gregory?
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A212
His name's Eric Roberts.
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P213
But any way you could make Gregory played by one Mr. Anders Keefe.
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A213
Oh, I like that.; Yes.; Yeah.
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- Ryan: “Oh, I like that.”
- Ryan: “Yes.”
- Curtis: “Yeah.”
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Q214
Should he be wearing a fat suit?
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A214
Yeah, exactly.; For the Gregory character.
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Q215
How many characters can we get him?
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A215
I'd be willing to go up to four.
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- Curtis: “Let's have him Eddie Murphy all over the show.”
- Brad(ley): “I'd be willing to go up to four.”
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Q216
Do you think he could do Nora?
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A216
I think that could work.; I think he has to be Nora.
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- Ryan: “I think that could work.”
- Curtis: “I think he has to be Nora.”
Round context
- Adjudication verdict: REJECTED
- Final adjudication: My people are not going to be contacting your people.
Round 3
Source excerpt ↗ 56:29RECORDED EXCHANGE
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Call3
Is there an Aryan Samsung?
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Q31
Will the show take place in an elevator?
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A31
It could.; It could work in an elevator.; It doesn't.; It doesn't.
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P32
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A32
Well, like, TV magic, it's fine.; We can make that work.; No problem.
WHAT THEY BROUGHT
Pitch3
Anyway, this is your classic sort of workplace comedy.; It takes place in a theater.; After delving into Frasier's memoirs,; Phoebe realizes there is mad money to be made in the opera game.; She reckons she can make even more; by finding low-budget, high-ceiling actors; from the local, untapped Boston scene.; She discovers Augustine and Roland; while going to a…
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Anyway, this is your classic sort of workplace comedy.; It takes place in a theater.; After delving into Frasier's memoirs,; Phoebe realizes there is mad money to be made in the opera game.; She reckons she can make even more; by finding low-budget, high-ceiling actors; from the local, untapped Boston scene.; She discovers Augustine and Roland; while going to a rehearsal of one of Frasier's favorite obscure plays.; She goes on dates with Vince Wilfork and June Patrick,; and she realizes that they aren't good at loving,; but they're great at improv.; So she attempts to moneyball her way into theater history,; but if she can't sell out opening night,; her evil mom's going to pull all of the funding; and the opera will be canceled.
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Q33
Is this a comedy or a drama?
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A33
This is a workplace comedy.
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Q34
And the workplace is an elevator?
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A34
It's going to be like the literal elevator,; but it's going to be,; TV magic is going to make it look out to be like,; these are a bunch of people at a theater rehearsal; for pretty much the whole series.
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Q35
Which characters would you say are the protagonist; and which are the antagonists?
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A35
So our protagonist, good question.; Phoebe, she's played by Rachel Bloom.
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P36
Do you think we could get Anders Keith,; the guy who plays David, to be Rachel Bloom?
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A36
You know, I don't think that would work,; but I think we could slot him in.; What if we just say he's Vince Wilfork?
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P37
We have this terrible British actor; that played Freddie in Frasier.; How can you use him in this series?
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A37
What if Freddie and David; play Vince Wilfork?; And we just switch him out; and, like, no one notices.
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P38
So how can you make that work?
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- Adjudication: I don't love that.
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A38
What if we kind of make him; like an ornamental rug; as part of the theater piece?; Yes, exactly.; And people just step on him.
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Q38C
Like he's a prop?
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A38C
Yes, exactly.
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Ext38
Like a Wilson situation; on Home Improvement.; We never see the face.; He's just the prop guy.; He's always sitting in the background.
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P39
Is there any way; you could hire; the original Freddie,; Trevor Einhorn,; to play Freddie in this version?
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A39
Phoebe needs a gopher; to run back and get coffee; He could be the assistant.
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Q310
Could he be the emo version; the whole time?
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- Answer qualification: I think he should be a goth version.
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A310
Yeah, I was thinking; the goth would be; a good personal assistant; to a theater director.
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- Curtis: “I think you're thinking of goth.”
- Curtis: “I think he should be a goth version.”
- Ryan: “Yeah, I was thinking the goth would be a good personal assistant to a theater director.”
- Ryan: “Yeah, I think that would work and play great.”
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Q311
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A311
Okay.; He's warm on the inside; but dark on the outside.
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Q312
Please tell us.
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- Prompt item: You don't even want to know; what those shows called?
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A312
It's called Feeble Minds.
CLAIM & ADJUDICATION
Title Explanation
she's manipulating them.; that's going to be a whole reveal; at the end of the season.
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Q313
Do you spell it with a PH?
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
A313
Yeah, obviously.
Round context
- Answer qualification: Do you spell it with a PH?; Yeah, obviously.
- Adjudication verdict: GREENLIT
- Final adjudication: Greenlit.
View source wording — how it was explained on the show
- Central premise: But which characters will they mine to pull a Frasier and create a new spinoff show?
- Interaction mode: pitching and responding to roleplayed studio executives
- Ryan: “This is NBC and CBS.”
- Brad(ley): “Well, you know, I just want to represent that I'm from HBO Max because this question will”
- Ryan: “I know we're supposed to be doing like bad notes, but Alan's not really shown like he hates heat.”
- Curtis: “But any way you could make Gregory played by one Mr. Anders Keefe. We're okay with reusing him in as many parts as possible because we've got to really blow through this deal.”
- Curtis: “We're network TV executives.”
- Brad(ley): “Well, Ryan, you will hear from us soon, or you won't.”