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Classic Frasier · Season 11 · Episode 13
The Ann Who Came to Dinner
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RyanBrad(ley)CurtisNO COMMON DENOMINATOR
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By way of introduction.
Resident upside downer; forgot to eat dinner and is ready to go.
Insurance agent, with the full contradictory sales pitch and teasing below.
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Welcome to Reverse Psychology, the Frasier Rewatch podcast where we go backwards through every episode of the show. Tonight, we are covering season 11, episode 13, The Anne Who Came to Dinner. Is this the Frasier and It's Pat crossover episode? We'll find out. I'm your host, Curtis Schack. Joining me as always, our resident upside downer, it's Ryan. And I forgot to eat dinner, so I am ready to go, Curtis. Oh my gosh, that sounds horrible. Also with us today is our insurance agent, Bradley Kirkston. I would be such a good insurance agent. My people would love me. You're way too into that. I thought that was going to be the meanest one I've ever used. You are so bad at this. What do you mean you would be a good insurance agent? I will answer that question, but I want to point out, and I think this is what our 12th episode, so it's pretty obvious. I am a very easy person to insult. And for some reason, Curtis is doing such a terrible job at it. And to answer your question, Ryan, I don't like how well you know yourself, that you know you're easy to insult. Again, one of the weirdest things that I'm actually really good at is I'm a very self-aware person. I don't change that, but I'm very self-aware. So I would be a good, talk about being self-aware, I'd be a good insurance salesman because I care about people. So I'd be getting them the best deals all the time. I mean, I would screw over a lot of people because I have to be good at my job, but I would still be a great insurance agent. So many contradictions in that one sentence. Yeah, I don't know about any of that. I'd be a great insurance agent because I'd be giving people deals that is not the quality of a good insurance agent. And then you go on to say that you would screw a lot of people over because you care about them. Like, wow. I'd be giving people over that from what we've learned today. That is a good insurance agent. They screw people. It's the caring about people part that doesn't quite add up. Yeah, but even the way you said it. Do you mean you can trick people into thinking you care about them? Because that could work. Yeah, I mean, I think I'd just be a little... He says yes. I'd be a little bit of everything to everyone. That's not an insurance agent. Well, again... Do you think that they're actually like Jake from State Farm or whatever? Oh, God. I think... Today's commercials even still haven't, but I think that... Yeah, they're all basketball now, though. Oh, that's true. What we'll do is I'll spend a year as an insurance agent. And we're going to talk about it for a full year. And then next year, I'll come back and we'll do a retrospect of my year as an insurance agent. I mean... For like the 40th episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we won't talk about it from now until that episode. I don't know what we would possibly talk about. So how was your first day as insurance, Brad? Why do you sound so Jewish when you said that? Have you been hanging out with me too much? That's how I always ask people how their first day was. That's the same tone I use for anyone's first day. Okay. That's fair. That's fair. Is it? Sure.
Someone brought rules.
The games, the premises, and what everyone brought to the table.
Game / activity
Predicting Maris’s appearance ↗
How this one works
Setup and instructions
- I want you to tell us who and what Maris is, her description, what she looks like, whatever you can tell us about her.
- So, uh, you know, this was your first real introduction to Maris and, uh, you get lots of, uh, details, but also very little.
Context and recorded outcome
- Activity premise: So, uh, you know, this was your first real introduction to Maris and, uh, you get lots of, uh, details, but also very little. Activity request: I want you to tell us who and what Maris is, her description, what she looks like, whatever you can tell us about her. Adjudication method: Well, we are going to keep watching and we are going to find out if, uh, if that comes to fruition, if you got it right. Adjudication verdict: DEFERRED Result qualification: Um, and I've taken no notes on this. So there's really no way for us to track whether you really iterate unless we happen to remember or, uh, our, our audience holds us to it.
RESULT STATUS
The recorded result is unresolved.
No explicit participant winner or final tie is established in the reviewed record.
What was recorded
What everyone brought to the table · 3 recorded contributions
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
maris setup
Premise: She is the ex-wife of Dr. Niles Crane. Response context: It could be that she's a recurring character. It could be, um, anything in between.
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
maris wrap
Adjudication verdict: DEFERRED
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
a late
I don't think we see her till at least like season eight. So it's going to be a while.
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- Respondent: Ryan
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maris round
Activity request: So, uh, I want to know, you know, I want you to describe Maris to your best ability. Who do you think would be a great choice for this role?
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I want you to tell us who and what Maris is, her description, what she looks like, whatever you can tell us about her.
Prompt: I want you to tell us who and what Maris is, her description, what she looks like, whatever you can tell us about her.
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- Facilitator: Curtis
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And then I want you to tell us what, you know, what kind of a part you think she's going to play in this series.
Prompt: And then I want you to tell us what, you know, what kind of a part you think she's going to play in this series.
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- Facilitator: Curtis
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
a maris
I have to assume she's a recurring character, but I'm going to say that she was with Niles for the first three-ish years, three, four years. So she must have been on the show some of the time. Uh, I'm going to say twice a season and he's just a wreck around her the whole time. Answer qualification: I don't, I, I, it's real risk to just keep describing her physical features. So I'm going to avoid that. Response status: speculative response completed
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maris discussion
Response or selection: Um, what about Roseanne? Maybe her. It's a Janie, but Alison Janie is somebody else I thought of when you said tall, but she's not, not big. I think it's a little too early, but a Jane Lynch would be perfect. Jane Kaczmarek. That's the actress who plays the mom in Malcolm in the Middle. That's Jane Krakowski. Answer qualification: I would…
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Response or selection: Um, what about Roseanne? Maybe her. It's a Janie, but Alison Janie is somebody else I thought of when you said tall, but she's not, not big. I think it's a little too early, but a Jane Lynch would be perfect. Jane Kaczmarek. That's the actress who plays the mom in Malcolm in the Middle. That's Jane Krakowski. Answer qualification: I would say less obnoxious, more like get the intimidation from, uh, the wife from Malcolm in the middle. Just as, you know, this is Hulk, especially compared to the, pretty much the rest of the cast. I think he's going to, he's definitely going to like cower around here a lot. Phrase attribution: Hulk; taller woman; cowering: Ryan; liked description: Curtis Casting attribution: Kathy Bates; Malcolm in the Middle mom; thought 30 Rock; old Jane Lynch: Ryan; agrees; Roseanne suggestion; Jane: Curtis; already two Roseanne characters: Brad Final phrase attribution: Who corrects the 30 Rock name to “Jane Krakowski”? The already-confirmed “Jane” answer did not specify which name occurrence.: Curtis; Who suggests Allison Janney? Other confirmed casting suggestions do not need repeating.: Curtis
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Well, well, to that point, I actually do, I do want to ask who is your, who's the actress you think either did play or could play? Who do you think would be a great choice for this role?
Prompt: Well, well, to that point, I actually do, I do want to ask who is your, who's the actress you think either did play or could play? Who do you think would be a great choice for this role?
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- Facilitator: Curtis
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
a cast
I think I would go like Kathy Bates ish, but she needs to be a little taller. Answer qualification: I just need to size her up a little bit. Choice: Jane Lynch Response status: revised and completed
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- Respondent: Ryan
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- Respondent: Ryan
Game / activity
Next-episode prediction ↗
How this one works
Setup and instructions
- In the meantime, why don't you tell us what to expect next week when we cover the previous episode at season 11, episode 12, Frasier Light.
Context and recorded outcome
- Activity request: In the meantime, why don't you tell us what to expect next week when we cover the previous episode at season 11, episode 12, Frasier Light. Result qualification: If any of that happens, we're going to be here to discuss it on this show.
RESULT STATUS
The recorded result is unresolved.
No explicit participant winner or final tie is established in the reviewed record.
What was recorded
What everyone brought to the table · 1 recorded contribution
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
preview wrap
Result qualification: If any of that happens, we're going to be here to discuss it on this show.
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Frasier Light
Prompt item: Frasier Light
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In the meantime, why don't you tell us what to expect next week when we cover the previous episode at season 11, episode 12, Frasier Light.
Prompt: In the meantime, why don't you tell us what to expect next week when we cover the previous episode at season 11, episode 12, Frasier Light. Prompt item: Frasier Light Final phrase attribution: Who hands off the Frasier Lite prediction? Ryan’s complete prediction, including its asides, is already confirmed.: Curtis
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WHAT THEY BROUGHT
a preview
Submission type: speculative episode plot Frasier finds himself in a bar with no wine. Frasier orders a beer of any kind. They bring him a Miller's Light. Roz makes fun of him and gets a Miller Heavy. Back at the apartment, Daphne's there for some reason. So Marty imbibes on some wine and tells Daphne of all the times he watched the sports ball.
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preview asides
The sheer and utter horror. Niles could never. Where is Ronnie?
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Comic bits and episode moments.
Conversation excerpt
Reverse Psychology ↗
Title: Reverse Psychology Activity description: Welcome to Reverse Psychology, the Frasier Rewatch podcast where we go backwards through every episode of the show. Tonight, we are covering season 11, episode 13, The Anne Who Came to Dinner. Is this the Frasier and It's Pat crossover episode? We'll find out. I'm your host, Curtis Schack. Joining me as always, our…
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Title: Reverse Psychology Activity description: Welcome to Reverse Psychology, the Frasier Rewatch podcast where we go backwards through every episode of the show. Tonight, we are covering season 11, episode 13, The Anne Who Came to Dinner. Is this the Frasier and It's Pat crossover episode? We'll find out. I'm your host, Curtis Schack. Joining me as always, our resident upside downer, it's Ryan. And I forgot to eat dinner, so I am ready to go, Curtis. Oh my gosh, that sounds horrible. Also with us today is our insurance agent, Bradley Kirkston. I would be such a good insurance agent. My people would love me. You're way too into that. I thought that was going to be the meanest one I've ever used. You are so bad at this. What do you mean you would be a good insurance agent? I will answer that question, but I want to point out, and I think this is what our 12th episode, so it's pretty obvious. I am a very easy person to insult. And for some reason, Curtis is doing such a terrible job at it. And to answer your question, Ryan, I don't like how well you know yourself, that you know you're easy to insult. Again, one of the weirdest things that I'm actually really good at is I'm a very self-aware person. I don't change that, but I'm very self-aware. So I would be a good, talk about being self-aware, I'd be a good insurance salesman because I care about people. So I'd be getting them the best deals all the time. I mean, I would screw over a lot of people because I have to be good at my job, but I would still be a great insurance agent. So many contradictions in that one sentence. Yeah, I don't know about any of that. I'd be a great insurance agent because I'd be giving people deals that is not the quality of a good insurance agent. And then you go on to say that you would screw a lot of people over because you care about them. Like, wow. I'd be giving people over that from what we've learned today. That is a good insurance agent. They screw people. It's the caring about people part that doesn't quite add up. Yeah, but even the way you said it. Do you mean you can trick people into thinking you care about them? Because that could work. Yeah, I mean, I think I'd just be a little... He says yes. I'd be a little bit of everything to everyone. That's not an insurance agent. Well, again... Do you think that they're actually like Jake from State Farm or whatever? Oh, God. I think... Today's commercials even still haven't, but I think that... Yeah, they're all basketball now, though. Oh, that's true. What we'll do is I'll spend a year as an insurance agent. And we're going to talk about it for a full year. And then next year, I'll come back and we'll do a retrospect of my year as an insurance agent. I mean... For like the 40th episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we won't talk about it from now until that episode. I don't know what we would possibly talk about. So how was your first day as insurance, Brad? Why do you sound so Jewish when you said that? Have you been hanging out with me too much? That's how I always ask people how their first day was. That's the same tone I use for anyone's first day. Okay. That's fair. That's fair. Is it? Sure.
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- Facilitator: Curtis Schack
- Participants: Ryan Bradley Kirkston
Conversation excerpt
holiday ↗
I was going to wish you all a happy 4th of July.
Conversation excerpt
review ↗
Activity description: Well, speaking of long and boring, shall we pivot into the episode?
Conversation excerpt
ratings ↗
Activity request: Well, Brad, why don't you tell us if you thought this was a good episode?
See how they answered
What everyone brought to the table · 7 recorded exchanges
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Well, Brad, why don't you tell us if you thought this was a good episode?
Prompt: Well, Brad, why don't you tell us if you thought this was a good episode?
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- Facilitator: Curtis
RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
a brad
I'm going to go with the C- because there were some funny parts, but the story was stupid. Scores: C- Scoring method: I'm going to go with one of my lowest grades, and I'm pretty generous grader.
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And next, Curtis, if we can hear your thoughts.
Prompt: And next, Curtis, if we can hear your thoughts.
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RECORDED ANSWER / CHOICE
a curtis
I think this is pretty mediocre. Scores: position: 9; poolSize: 12; qualification: about Answer qualification: It's just above the last episode, Freudian Sleep, that we watched. The only thing really floating this above the bottom of the barrel is Julia Sweeney's ridiculous performance.
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And up next, Ryan, would you like to tell us what you think?
Prompt: And up next, Ryan, would you like to tell us what you think?
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a ryan
Scores: 3.8 So I think I'm going 3.8. Like just totally, totally skippable. We furthered very few people in very few ways.
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rating discussion
Phrase attribution: C minus echo: Brad; yeah: Curtis
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- Participants: Brad Curtis Ryan
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outro ↗
That's going to do it for us.
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postroll ↗
It's called Frasier Light. That was a mistake in my note taking. We're going to edit all of that out.
Conversation excerpt
Looking up Mrs. Keeper ↗
And that concludes our reading IMDb on the podcast segment. She's Mrs. Keeper, the head of the New York City public orphanage. Answer qualification: I was reading Wikipedia. Yeah, I was just on Google. Phrase attribution: Mrs keeper; Wikipedia lookup: Brad; Google lookup: Ryan
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What did he call the little escargot cracker? And is that a real thing? ↗
How this one works
Setup and instructions
- I googled escargot pincher.
Context and recorded outcome
- Question: What did he call the little escargot cracker? And is that a real thing? Method: I googled escargot pincher. From what I can tell, it's so you can hold the snail shell while you like get the snail out of it. Answer qualification: The way the picture looks, I thought at first that it was cracking the snail shell like a nutcracker. But I realize now it's just meant to hold it. Phrase attribution: asks about tool: Ryan; Google lookup; holding versus cracking clarification: Curtis
By way of goodbye.
Awful afternoon, no one.
Source excerpt ↗ 47:08–47:12Original sign-off transcript
For myself, Ryan, and Brad, awful afternoon, no one.
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